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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby Squiggles123 » Dec 30th, '12, 09:29

Sam. wrote:I new this thread was coming the moment I heard My Life.

Till date the way he says "scurred" on The Warning stands out.


I never understood why he slanted that word, I don't think it needed to be bent to rhyme.

The Warning is amazing though.
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 30th, '12, 10:02

Squiggles123 wrote:
Sam. wrote:I new this thread was coming the moment I heard My Life.

Till date the way he says "scurred" on The Warning stands out.


I never understood why he slanted that word, I don't think it needed to be bent to rhyme.

The Warning is amazing though.



Scurred is gangsterhiphop talk right? It sounds funny imo
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby Sam. » Dec 30th, '12, 13:47

He did bend that word. It was pretty obvious.
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby EminemInsider » Dec 31st, '12, 08:12

Prime Eminem wasn't big on bending words. He rhymed series of words because they rhymed, fit beautifully together, and nobody else could think of them. That's what made him great.

When people say he "rhymes/rhymed words that don't really rhyme," I want to say these people are idiots. Every song writer (not just rapper) rhymes words that don't really rhyme. Here are some non-rhymes in Like a Rolling Stone (Bob Dylan):

didn't you/kidden you
home/unknown/stone
used to get/juiced in it
got it made/pawn it babe
used/refuse
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby Jimmy Conway » Dec 31st, '12, 08:27

EminemInsider wrote:

When people say he "rhymes/rhymed words that don't really rhyme," I want to say these people are idiots.

Yeah Dr. Dre is an idiot. What does he know about Eminem?
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby Eedee » Dec 31st, '12, 08:41

EminemInsider wrote:Prime Eminem wasn't big on bending words. He rhymed series of words because they rhymed, fit beautifully together, and nobody else could think of them. That's what made him great.

When people say he "rhymes/rhymed words that don't really rhyme," I want to say these people are idiots. Every song writer (not just rapper) rhymes words that don't really rhyme. Here are some non-rhymes in Like a Rolling Stone (Bob Dylan):

didn't you/kidden you
home/unknown/stone
used to get/juiced in it
got it made/pawn it babe
used/refuse


Why do you say those are non-rhymes...? They obviously rhyme.
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Dec 31st, '12, 08:44

Eedee wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:Prime Eminem wasn't big on bending words. He rhymed series of words because they rhymed, fit beautifully together, and nobody else could think of them. That's what made him great.

When people say he "rhymes/rhymed words that don't really rhyme," I want to say these people are idiots. Every song writer (not just rapper) rhymes words that don't really rhyme. Here are some non-rhymes in Like a Rolling Stone (Bob Dylan):

didn't you/kidden you
home/unknown/stone
used to get/juiced in it
got it made/pawn it babe
used/refuse


Why do you say those are non-rhymes...? They obviously rhyme.

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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby EminemBase » Dec 31st, '12, 08:49

EminemInsider wrote:Prime Eminem wasn't big on bending words. He rhymed series of words because they rhymed, fit beautifully together, and nobody else could think of them. That's what made him great.

When people say he "rhymes/rhymed words that don't really rhyme," I want to say these people are idiots. Every song writer (not just rapper) rhymes words that don't really rhyme. Here are some non-rhymes in Like a Rolling Stone (Bob Dylan):

didn't you/kidden you
home/unknown/stone
used to get/juiced in it
got it made/pawn it babe
used/refuse


Those words do rhyme, the sounds of the words rhyme when you say them aloud.

Prime Em was actually big on 'bending' words, he wrote a lot of straight rhymes too, but a prime example is "orange / door hinge" - he has to enunciate 'orange' in a certain way to emphasize its syllables to make the rhyme pattern work. That's entirely different to a half-rhyme.
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby Shady-Yo » Dec 31st, '12, 09:59

Amadeo wrote:I don't think he did much bending with the rhyme in Brain Damage.

Orange juice/door hinge loose

Juice and loose both rhyme technically. Or/door isn't a stretch at all. The non-stressed syllable in the middle doesn't matter.


It's the matter of pronunciation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pJKb-h2iV0/#t=5m23s
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby EminemBase » Dec 31st, '12, 10:40

Amadeo wrote:I don't think he did much bending with the rhyme in Brain Damage.

Orange juice/door hinge loose

Juice and loose both rhyme technically. Or/door isn't a stretch at all. The non-stressed syllable in the middle doesn't matter.


More like word stretching.

If you say "orange" normally, and "door hinge" normally, they don't come close to rhyming. I mean, you can hear the 'nge' sound, there's the potential for the relationship but, the 'or' in 'orange', you don't normally pronounce as OR, so he really emphasized the syllables and made the word a bit different to how you'd normally say it, sort of, got his money's worth out of the word's potential.

Which I think is maybe a more accurate description of what he does / did: word stretching.
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby EminemInsider » Dec 31st, '12, 21:32

Eedee wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:Prime Eminem wasn't big on bending words. He rhymed series of words because they rhymed, fit beautifully together, and nobody else could think of them. That's what made him great.

When people say he "rhymes/rhymed words that don't really rhyme," I want to say these people are idiots. Every song writer (not just rapper) rhymes words that don't really rhyme. Here are some non-rhymes in Like a Rolling Stone (Bob Dylan):

didn't you/kidden you
home/unknown/stone
used to get/juiced in it
got it made/pawn it babe
used/refuse


Why do you say those are non-rhymes...? They obviously rhyme.


Jesus Christ, HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE?!?!?!?!?!

HOLY FUCK, GOD DAMN IT ARE YOU FUCKING MORONS.

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No, they don't technically rhyme, morons. Didn't and "kidden'" do not technically rhyme. The "t" being pronounced in "didn't" prevents it from actually rhyming.

"home" and "unknown/stone" do not rhyme. "Home" rhymes with "chrome" and "dome." "Stone/unknown" rhymes with "bone" and "alone."

"used" rhymes with "abused."

"got" does not rhyme with "pawn," and "made" does not rhyme with "babe." "Made" rhymes with "fade." "Babe" rhymes with "abe."

If a consonant is off, it doesn't technically rhyme.
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby EminemInsider » Dec 31st, '12, 21:39

EminemBase wrote:
Those words do rhyme, the sounds of the words rhyme when you say them aloud.


No, that's not what determines whether words rhyme or not.

A cat sat on a hat. Only the consonant sound preceding the rhyming vowel sound can differ in a true rhyme.

For instance, "cat" does not technically rhyme with "bad."

Prime Em was actually big on 'bending' words, he wrote a lot of straight rhymes too, but a prime example is "orange / door hinge" - he has to enunciate 'orange' in a certain way to emphasize its syllables to make the rhyme pattern work. That's entirely different to a half-rhyme.


No, he did not. Everybody says "orange" exactly as he said it in the song. "Oar-inge." That's how "orange" is pronounced. "oar" rhymes" with "door," and "ringe" rhymes with "hinge." Those would be perfect rhymes if the syllables were split up in "orange." They're only not technically rhymes because you're changing more than the first consonant in the word, "orange." You're adding a consonant before the "o" in "oar," and you're changing the "r" to an "h" sound.

That's an absolutely fucking HORRIBLE example of trying to point out Eminem 'bending words." He's not bending anything at all, he's just splitting up the syllables and rhyming them separately.
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby EminemInsider » Dec 31st, '12, 21:41

Slim Cary wrote:Yeah Dr. Dre is an idiot. What does he know about Eminem?


You are an unfathomable fucking dipshit...quite possibly the biggest idiot on this entire forum, and that's really saying something.

Yes, Dr. Dre is an idiot when it comes to writing lyrics, you stupid twit. Why do you think he has ghost writers write all his lyrics for him? Because he's a complete fucking doofus who can't write anything to save his life.

Even then, he's still smarter than you. Having seen other idiotic posts of yours, I know this isn't a one time thing. You are one of the biggest imbeciles I've ever seen anywhere, and that's quite a feat. I recommend you try cyanide tablets.
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby Sam. » Dec 31st, '12, 21:44

Calm down. Save your energy for better arguments.
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Re: Em Bending Words Again

Postby EminemInsider » Dec 31st, '12, 21:46

EminemBase wrote: but, the 'or' in 'orange', you don't normally pronounce as OR,


Huh? What are you talking about? That's exactly how you pronounce it.

Oar-inge. Some people might say it as though it's one syllable ("ornge juice,") but that's not how you're supposed to say the word, "orange." You go to any kindergarten class and see them talking about colors, they're going to point to an orange square and go, "oar-ringe."
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