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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby NextEpisode » Jan 3rd, '13, 19:09

Jason M. wrote:I think his albums are a little too long. Except SSLP, they're all 75+ minutes long. They could be shorter, maybe 60-65 minutes, Recovery would've been better and shorter if it didn't have Cold Wind Blows, Talking 2 Myself and You're Never Over, for example. IN MY OPINION.

So, longer or shorter album?


I somewhat agree that shortening down the running-time/amount of songs might increase the average-quality of the project. I say 'might', because it really depends on if Em & his management pick the "right" songs...

On the other hand,...
You pointed out that, in your opinion, Recovery would've better without those 3 specific songs. But what you have to take into consideration is that everybody has different taste, and thus it's not always obvious which songs to dismiss.

Especially when it comes to Em, he is one of those artists whose fan base extends beyond one genre, beyond a certain age group.

My opinion, though, is that Em should put out the amount of songs that makes sense for the project. I.e. he shouldn't put 18 songs on the LP, just because "18 songs is the right amount", but because it is those 18 songs that make the album what Em meant it to be, his art.
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby Jimmy Conway » Jan 3rd, '13, 19:42

They are so long because of the skits outside of Recovery.

The more material the more of a chance of there being quality songs.


Also, fuck the skits. They are a one and done for me. They add nothing to the song for me. OH I LOVE THE SOUNDS OF ICP SUCKING KEN KANIFFS DICK, REALLY ENHANCES MY MUSIC EXPERIENCE. No, fuck skits. I'd rather take the disk space that skits take up and have one or two more songs on the albums.
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby Jimmy Conway » Jan 3rd, '13, 19:54

bigray wrote:
Slim Cary wrote:They are so long because of the skits outside of Recovery.

The more material the more of a chance of there being quality songs.


Also, fuck the skits. They are a one and done for me. They add nothing to the song for me. OH I LOVE THE SOUNDS OF ICP SUCKING KEN KANIFFS DICK, REALLY ENHANCES MY MUSIC EXPERIENCE. No, fuck skits. I'd rather take the disk space that skits take up and have one or two more songs on the albums.


Im gonna call you from now on instead of Slim Cary "Slim Ary"

deal?


My point is valid. But like I've said before, anything that isn't being a stan is bad.

Skits are a waste of space, they do nothing for me. I would much rather had Em put No ones Iller or finish Demon Inside me or when hell freezes over or just a new song on the SSLP than having a bunch of guys singing I NEVER MEANTTTT TOOOO GIVEEE YOOOU MUSHROOMSSSS GIRRRRRRL or any of those other boring songs.

Song>skit. The last time I heard a skit from Em was the first time I heard Relapse. They are kind of funny first play. But I'd rather have songs on there, that I can listen to over and over for years.
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Jan 3rd, '13, 20:29

I want the album to be longer, with one feature only. :)
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby UofLCard » Jan 3rd, '13, 20:29

bigray wrote:I want those skits back.
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby Never_Enough » Jan 3rd, '13, 20:42

Slim Cary wrote:
bigray wrote:
Slim Cary wrote:They are so long because of the skits outside of Recovery.

The more material the more of a chance of there being quality songs.


Also, fuck the skits. They are a one and done for me. They add nothing to the song for me. OH I LOVE THE SOUNDS OF ICP SUCKING KEN KANIFFS DICK, REALLY ENHANCES MY MUSIC EXPERIENCE. No, fuck skits. I'd rather take the disk space that skits take up and have one or two more songs on the albums.


Im gonna call you from now on instead of Slim Cary "Slim Ary"

deal?


My point is valid. But like I've said before, anything that isn't being a stan is bad.

Skits are a waste of space, they do nothing for me. I would much rather had Em put No ones Iller or finish Demon Inside me or when hell freezes over or just a new song on the SSLP than having a bunch of guys singing I NEVER MEANTTTT TOOOO GIVEEE YOOOU MUSHROOMSSSS GIRRRRRRL or any of those other boring songs.

Song>skit. The last time I heard a skit from Em was the first time I heard Relapse. They are kind of funny first play. But I'd rather have songs on there, that I can listen to over and over for years.


I don't listen to Soldier without listening to The Kiss before it. Same thing with skits before White America, Evil Deeds, 3 Am, Underground, Deja Vu, Rain Man and many others. Actually I listen to almost every skit he has made before I listen to the actual song. For me THEY DO add something to the music.
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby Guess_Who » Jan 3rd, '13, 20:51

Jason M. wrote:I think his albums are a little too long. Except SSLP, they're all 75+ minutes long. They could be shorter, maybe 60-65 minutes, Recovery would've been better and shorter if it didn't have Cold Wind Blows, Talking 2 Myself and You're Never Over, for example. IN MY OPINION.

So, longer or shorter album?



I love cold wind blows and talking 2 myself. I never liked much you're never over, even if I know is an important song for him. But I don't see a reason to make the albums shorter, as long as it's great.

I like the skits, but certainly skits wouldn't fit Recovery. Who knows if the new album...
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby ShadyxEminem » Jan 3rd, '13, 21:22

Cold Wind Blows does get kinda annoying :whistle:
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby Eedee » Jan 3rd, '13, 21:31

Just close this thread before Jason M causes any more trouble.
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby Atone » Jan 3rd, '13, 21:34

he should stop making albums and just release a new track every month for the next 5 years and then retire
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby ImANoob » Jan 3rd, '13, 21:36

i do see where youre coming from but with an artist like eminem, longer albums are better. since he isnt going to put an album out with a complete story where every song relates to each other, why limit the length?
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby Slim Fiasco » Jan 3rd, '13, 22:41

I definitely agree. To me the optimal number of songs is 12 or 14 at tops. That way, the quality of the whole album is more likely to be better, and the album will be more cohesive and flow better. It's one thing to delete songs you don't like, it's another thing when the LP is coherent by default. When people evaluate an album, they take all songs in consideration. Filler songs disappoint me and since I don't listen to them anyway, then it'd be better if they were left out to begin with.

Sure it depends on taste, but the general ratings are usually the same. Like, most people liked Going Through Changes and Almost Famous the most, while Won't Back Down and White Trash Party the least on Recovery.

Or with TES, Drips and Say What You Say are usually the least liked, while Sing For The Moment and Till I Collapse take the number one spot (see the elimination threads for reference).

And remember quality is always better than quantity. I'd rather have 12 songs that are 4-5 stars, than a bunch of 3's with a 5 here and there.
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby Jason M. » Jan 3rd, '13, 22:57

Eedee wrote:Just close this thread before Jason M causes any more trouble.


Ummm... what?

About the skits, I think they're great. They kind of give album a certain atmosphere... The Kiss, for example. I could live without a skit that immitates the sounds of sucking a dick, tho.
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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby CanadaPure » Jan 3rd, '13, 23:14

Jason M. wrote:
Eedee wrote:Just close this thread before Jason M causes any more trouble.


Ummm... what?

About the skits, I think they're great. They kind of give album a certain atmosphere... The Kiss, for example. I could live without a skit that immitates the sounds of sucking a dick, tho.


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Re: Next album should be shorter

Postby Willy » Jan 3rd, '13, 23:46

"Dr. West" is greatness. That is all.
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