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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Ka0t1c » Jan 5th, '09, 02:43

Tash, don't talk trash to me, you could be mature and talk about it can't you...

but seriously, i wouldn't fold up, i go through tough shit often
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Tash8 » Jan 5th, '09, 02:50

Kaotic wrote:Tash, don't talk trash to me, you could be mature and talk about it can't you...

but seriously, i wouldn't fold up, i go through tough shit often


really now? so your saying you could go through every thing eminem went through and still not fold at the end?

ya i dont believe you...

keep telling yourself that and when you go out and face reality, you'll see how you'll end up folding...
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Solace » Jan 5th, '09, 02:51

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TruEmFan wrote:Em had one bad album. One. The only reason people think he fell off is because he didn't come back from that bad album yet. It's like when Jay-Z came out with Kingdome Come. A lot of people were disappointed, but Jay immediately came back with American Gangster to shut people up. There's no reason to dwell on Kingdom Come since Jay just released 15 really good songs.

The problem with Em is that it's been more than 4 years since Encore, and there's still nothing Em has shown us to make us forget about it. Which is why fans are still talking about that album. I swear, I have never seen so many people hung up on a CD before.

I also don't buy the excuse that he has run out of shit to talk about. Just from reading his book made me realize that his life can provide endless material for him to write about. Now, whether he wants to use those personal experiences in his music, is essentially up to him, but there are plenty of stuff Em can say.

I can see why a lot of fans aren't optimistic about Relapse, but come on, what are you guys judging that album based off of? Random guest appearances he's done? Why do those bad songs, that can easily be counted on both of my hands, overshadow the first 3 brilliant albums and select features and freestyles/verses he's done in the past?

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I don't write off one of my favorite artists based on one bad album. Especially if that album could have possibly been excused for being bad (with the leaked tracks and everything :roll: ), but I ain't even going to get into that.

just don't be sloppy when writing down the address :y:

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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Ka0t1c » Jan 5th, '09, 02:52

i do go thru frustrating times, i'm saying that i wouldn't fold and that i'd give 100% in my music. you're just saying, i assume, that you couldn't handle that, and it is completely undertandable, i admit, it's tough to do not everyone can overcome hardship, people struggle daily
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Tash8 » Jan 5th, '09, 03:03

Kaotic wrote:i do go thru frustrating times, i'm saying that i wouldn't fold and that i'd give 100% in my music. you're just saying, i assume, that you couldn't handle that, and it is completely undertandable, i admit, it's tough to do not everyone can overcome hardship, people struggle daily


thats not what i'm saying

you could be going through a tough time and make it, you could be having a hard time to make it in the industry, but u break through and make it, but add all that up and plus having children, and a wife to deal with and everything you deal with and still have the energy and hunger to rap at a consistently high level all the time is just complete bullshit...

Nas, Jay-Z, Eminem, all the greats have gone through a slump at one point, jayz and nas have bounced back, eminem hasn't yet.
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Ka0t1c » Jan 5th, '09, 03:05

like i said, if i didn't give 100% into my music, i'd halt...
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Tash8 » Jan 5th, '09, 03:15

you say that now, but believe me, unless your a special kind like rakim or something, you'll give in, but if you believe that you will halt, then alright.
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Ka0t1c » Jan 5th, '09, 03:16

i agree with you... and i am special!
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Wreck » Jan 5th, '09, 08:21

James R. wrote:Well first off Eminem Show was a classic, but disregarding that the answer is simple. Emotional shit stopped happening to him.

SSLP- His life overall sucked. Drugs were an issue. He was poor and hated his wife.

MMLP- He was going through all the family shit. Still hated his wife. Detoxing from the drug use. And he was still hungry.

TES- He got his daughters, shit was calming down and he was slaying his final demons.

Encore- Nothing was going on, he wasn't inspired to make an album, he was forced into it. Therefore the album was lacking.

The Re-Up- Well that was just about kind of advertising his artists, but mainly about making money.


well said James, and I agree....

it's about passion, and what you have to write about, when it comes to hip hop & being an mc

I don't think Em will talk about his Mom negatively or Kim in general, but also won't tone down his lyrics or image. He is who he will always be, like he said in the interview 2 weeks ago about trying to change who you are and you're image. Marshall Mathers will always be Marshall Mathers and his lyrics on tracks on albums are based off of news in his life, being hungry, energy and feeding off of it
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Ella » Jan 5th, '09, 14:33

every artist is entitled to one bad album.. & some tracks on there wernt even bad.. Em aint dumb.. he wud neva do another Encore again.. & even if its bad im still gonna BUY it!! no bootleging xDD
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Ice_Scarred » Jan 6th, '09, 03:14

He can also shread all those Encore critics, on this album. He can fire back at Wayne, Stir some more damn controversy, attack pop culture, get out the emotions he had inside him from the death of Proof, actually make another hilarious song, attack critics who think he's washed-up, explain things like Stat and Obie leaving the label, and talk about shit thats up with him these days.

Slim can't run out of concepts. He just chooses bad concepts, unfortunately. But I have a feeling this album, we might get this fire back.
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby noel » Jan 6th, '09, 03:18

Ice_Scarred wrote:He can also shread all those Encore critics, on this album. He can fire back at Wayne, Stir some more damn controversy, attack pop culture, get out the emotions he had inside him from the death of Proof, actually make another hilarious song, attack critics who think he's washed-up, explain things like Stat and Obie leaving the label, and talk about shit thats up with him these days.

Slim can't run out of concepts. He just chooses bad concepts, unfortunately. But I have a feeling this album, we might get this fire back.



I hope so...
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Ice_Scarred » Jan 7th, '09, 04:17

noel wrote:
Ice_Scarred wrote:He can also shread all those Encore critics, on this album. He can fire back at Wayne, Stir some more damn controversy, attack pop culture, get out the emotions he had inside him from the death of Proof, actually make another hilarious song, attack critics who think he's washed-up, explain things like Stat and Obie leaving the label, and talk about shit thats up with him these days.

Slim can't run out of concepts. He just chooses bad concepts, unfortunately. But I have a feeling this album, we might get this fire back.



I hope so...


I think he has enough emotion and material to write about by now, to put out some raw and classic music. Encore, in my honest opinion was a pretty good album. Em's WORST album, imo, but a GOOD album. I liked most of the songs on there, except maybe like 3-4. I even liked the stupid ones like
My First Single, Rain Man, and Big Weenie. Yellow Brick Road was RAW. Never Enough had some multi's from what I can remember. I used to WORSHIP that song man...

I think Relapse will have a TES / Encore vibe and flow, with some raw MMLP type lyrics. I think I said that before, and just at this time in his life and even the title gives me that feeling. Hopefully he doesn't fall into Party tracks though, like dead ass. I just have that feeling that Relapse is going to be raw.
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby BigBoss » May 30th, '11, 08:18

Boy were you guys wrong
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Re: What happened to Em

Postby Fa-Q » May 30th, '11, 08:20

SWEET_TOOTH wrote:Boy were you guys wrong

Hey sweet tooth, I know you're an ignorant asshole, but there are classes to teach you to not bump old topics.....do you need a coupon to get 20% off one of these said classes?
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