Sober Eminem Can't Revisit Home Studio

[shadegirl]

Poor thing. maybe he should re build it brand new.

[Sam.]

it reminds him of the times when he high in the studio and missed life that was just outside the studio

[Evan C.]

I think Em takes his soberness a little to extreme. The first thing I would've done was gone down there and record after I got sober.

Really? Guess we are different.
I always keep bad memories suppressed and make sure i don't see/do anything that can activate them again

if he doesn't go there due to fear of relapsing then he hasn't truly "recovered".. once he has no fears and can do things like record in that studio or even go on tour without even thinking about drugs then that will be when he is recovered..

That isn't how it at all. Once you're an addict, you're always an addict...you never "recover" fully. Once you think you have the addiction beat, stop going meetings, etc....That's when you're setting yourself up to relapse again.

[LLockhart86]

I think Em takes his soberness a little to extreme. The first thing I would've done was gone down there and record after I got sober.

Speaking from experience here, but a drug addict...someone who does drugs a lot...falls into certain habbits. So you'll have a person who does drugs and does the same things over and over again while high. He probably spent a lot of time in the studio when he was high, so going back into the studio reminds him ( triggers something in the brain ) of being on drugs.

Happens with me too. I used to drive a lot when I was on speed and shit...and Xtacy. And now that i've been clean off that shit for a while, whenever I drive down certain roads that I used to drive down a lot...It brings me back to those days...makes me wanna do the shit again. So I avoid those roads.

I would smoke a lot of weed on this couch I used to have...sat on it again for the first time in a year or two and automatically brought me back to those days, made me wanna smoke weed too.

You associate things you used to do while you were high with certain drugs. So that when you experience those things again, you also experience the craving for the drug. Its nuts.

Im suprised he didnt move.

[da r star]

So if I understand correctly, he doesn't want to go back to the place where he recorded The Eminem Show?

That alone should overtake any fear imo.

[Evan C.]

So if I understand correctly, he doesn't want to go back to the place where he recorded The Eminem Show?

That alone should overtake any fear imo.

He recorded most of The Eminem Show on the set of 8 Mile.

[rep2death]

I think Em takes his soberness a little to extreme. The first thing I would've done was gone down there and record after I got sober.

Really? Guess we are different.
I always keep bad memories suppressed and make sure i don't see/do anything that can activate them again

if he doesn't go there due to fear of relapsing then he hasn't truly "recovered".. once he has no fears and can do things like record in that studio or even go on tour without even thinking about drugs then that will be when he is recovered..

yea man ur wrong.....a recovering addict is STILL an addict....it doesnt go away....

if it did then the doctor would tell him hang around people who do drugs..

your supposed to stay away from temptation...he knows he has a problem and he knows what triggers it....so he is doing what he must by staying away from all that shit..

for instance...im not gonna go walk outside naked bcuz im scared that people will see my junk...no, thats not the reason...the reason is that i wont do it bcuz im SMART enough to know im gonna be thrown in jail if i go out there ...get it??

If Eminem has to stay sober by stayin away from dark places then more power to him for being honest with himself and knowing his limits....i applaud him

[MackBook]

he's always going to remember that place as a dark place

even if he "fully" recovers

but remembering at and being able to come to grips with it so he can say he's fully moved on and it doesnt bother him anymore are different

[LLockhart86]

@Trinell - We agree on something? omg. for real though, what horrible things could have happened in yahoo chat rooms that you cant go back? lol. Not tryin to be an ass, I really wanna know.

And. What pills are you talkin about. And what happened. You've got me interested.

@Mackbook - It isnt that easy. Ive been clean off certain shit and dont even really have cravings for them anymore. Unless I start thinking about times where I was having a really really good time..then whatever drug was the "cause" of that really really good time I start getting cravings for. That being said, i think its like deja vu in the brain. Deja Vu happens when ( This is my opinion based on info I've gathered ) certain things in your eye sight ( your range of vision ) that line up in a way that they have before. For instance, a brown car driving past you in front of a walmart. If you were ever standing in front of a walmart again, and a brown car happened to drive by as you were lookin in that direction, in the same spot of your vision as before, then that would trigger deja vu. Its like seeing a picture twice but not even remembering seeing the picture for the first time...

anyways, I think it happens the same way with the drug addiction. For instance, your high on meth. While your high on meth, you drove down this certain road leaving your house many times. Then you stop doing meth. When you drive down that road again, as soon as your see those same sights as you did when you were high, your brain makes the connection between that image and the effects of the drug. It then makes you want to get high. So, him sitting behind the switch boards, or him standing behind the mic...while he was high, he probably he saw certain parts of his studio all the fuckin time, if he goes down there and stand behind the mic again...his brain is going to go back to when he was high on whatever drug.

Its just how that shit works. It has nothing to do with facing that and fighting through it. Because the addiction is stronger than that. The whole point of Recovery is to avoid the cravings as much as possible. dont put yourself into situations to trigger cravings. Because the cravings are stronger than your will power is most of the time. Thats why people have sponcers. So they can call that person when they are about to say fuck it, I dont care...im gunna just get high.

Drug addiction is probably the single most powerful thing you will ever have to face in your life. because no matter what is going on around you, doing the drugs becomes the most important thing. You'll get to the point where you will see your life crumbling around you and say to your self " I dont even fuckin care, give me them pills"

PS - this has nothing to do with anything. but. The lead actress in true blood is a dumb bitch and they should kill her annoying ass off.

[da r star]

So if I understand correctly, he doesn't want to go back to the place where he recorded The Eminem Show?

That alone should overtake any fear imo.

He recorded most of The Eminem Show on the set of 8 Mile.

No he wrote most of it on the 8 mile set. Here are the song in the booklet that says recorded at "Marshall's Home Studio" and 54Sound Studio (in Ferndale Michigan):

White America
Cleanin Out My Closet
Soldier
Say Goodbye to Hollywood
Drips
Without Me
Sing For The Moment
Superman
Till I Collapse

The rest are either recorded only in 54 Sound or in Encore Studio, where Dr. Dre works I think.

SO, he's afraid of what again?

[Cam_24]

I think Em takes his soberness a little to extreme. The first thing I would've done was gone down there and record after I got sober.

Really? Guess we are different.
I always keep bad memories suppressed and make sure i don't see/do anything that can activate them again

if he doesn't go there due to fear of relapsing then he hasn't truly "recovered".. once he has no fears and can do things like record in that studio or even go on tour without even thinking about drugs then that will be when he is recovered..

It's not that he fears he's going to relapse, it probably just brings back memories of always being high down there.

[Evan C.]

So if I understand correctly, he doesn't want to go back to the place where he recorded The Eminem Show?

That alone should overtake any fear imo.

He recorded most of The Eminem Show on the set of 8 Mile.

No he wrote most of it on the 8 mile set. Here are the song in the booklet that says recorded at "Marshall's Home Studio" and 54Sound Studio (in Ferndale Michigan):

White America
Cleanin Out My Closet
Soldier
Say Goodbye to Hollywood
Drips
Without Me
Sing For The Moment
Superman
Till I Collapse

The rest are either recorded only in 54 Sound or in Encore Studio, where Dr. Dre works I think.

SO, he's afraid of what again?

Link?

Either way, you're an idiot if you think he should do anything that could even possibly, remotely, .00000001% have a chance of jeopardizing his sobriety. Or do you want him to re-sign Stat Quo and do a sequel to The Re-Up?

[Chromie]

Being a recovering alcoholic for the last 7 years, and I say recovering because every day is a struggle and it truly is "one day at a time", its very hard to stay away from the things that trigger an attack. I can't hang around the same folks I used to hang around or go into the same places I used to go when I drank because it was entirely too tempting. I stay away from bars now because of it. Nothing but bad happens when I step in a bar. It's probably that way for Em with the studio. Until he gets to the point where he feels he can face it and not be triggered he needs to stay away from it. He may never be able to step foot in his home studio again. Sometimes certain things are always a trigger. Once an addict, always an addict. If there's one thing I've learned from meetings, etc its that I can't do it on my own. Gotta have a good support system. I've fallen off the wagon a time or two and each time was worse than the last and the next time could be the one that kills me. Until you've walked in those shoes you don't know what its like waking up every day knowing something could happen that triggers you and you fall back into your old bad habits.

[Evan C.]

Being a recovering alcoholic for the last 7 years, and I say recovering because every day is a struggle and it truly is "one day at a time", its very hard to stay away from the things that trigger an attack. I can't hang around the same folks I used to hang around or go into the same places I used to go when I drank because it was entirely too tempting. I stay away from bars now because of it. Nothing but bad happens when I step in a bar. It's probably that way for Em with the studio. Until he gets to the point where he feels he can face it and not be triggered he needs to stay away from it. He may never be able to step foot in his home studio again. Sometimes certain things are always a trigger. Once an addict, always an addict. If there's one thing I've learned from meetings, etc its that I can't do it on my own. Gotta have a good support system. I've fallen off the wagon a time or two and each time was worse than the last and the next time could be the one that kills me. Until you've walked in those shoes you don't know what its like waking up every day knowing something could happen that triggers you and you fall back into your old bad habits.

Great post, good for you for getting sober.

[snellejelle]

Well good for him that he has the courage to admit it instead of forcing himself to go there just to prove he can do it.It's a total cliche but there really is no way to beat an addiction if deep down you still believe you're bigger than drugs/alcohol/whatever