Will Relapse be remembered as a classic album?

[Alaine]

SSLP & MMLP while are sick albums they also have catchy hooks, that's what makes Eminem a song-writer who can write sick verses with memorable hook, far above with those normal battle rappers.

And I really want to know those "concept album" excuse, cuz as I pointed out, there are only few songs that stay to the murder theme, the rest are really random.

[Robbie G]

No. Because of it's content it doesn't have much lasting mainstream appeal and now that Eminem dissed it most of his fans look down on it. The real question how do we define a classic? I think fans tend to use that term a little too liberally. Not every good album is a classic.

[Emadyville]

And I really want to know those "concept album" excuse, cuz as I pointed out, there are only few songs that stay to the murder theme, the rest are really random.

While I do agree with your point on the specific songs you mentioned, I feel the concept may actually be that of psychotic/insane/horror than just a serial killer-type concept.

With that said, you can easily add insane, medicine ball, must be the ganja, underground, hello, and possibly bagpips as well. I say this because I feel it was somewhat of a concept album, and when you take into account the refill songs like buffalo bill, taking my ball, and music box they also fit into this.

And if this is the case, then the surrealism of beautiful, old times sake, deja vu, CAB, and we made you in regards to their placement on the album is then justifiable, at least in my opinion. And I say all of this as a fan of the album, but not liking it to any extent of his first 3 albums, and feeling most of it has no near-future replay value, being partially due to the greatness recovery has displayed.

Just my thoughts

[Pllumi]

any classic album (in this case relapse) that has got many negative critics (accent....) can't be considered as a classic.

[Alaine]

lol Relapse tracks definitely sound like they belong together, bar Beautfiul & Deja Vu, but it's more because of how they sound than because of the full concept. I count concept song as the whole song is dedicated to one concept. If we counted Refill too, then you have 3am, same song & dance, stay wide awake, buffalo bill, music box that I can say are full concept songs, the rest either have little relevance to topic or just random crazy punchlines.

[Drucifer]

any classic album (in this case relapse) that has got many negative critics (accent....) can't be considered as a classic.

Not always the case, sometimes an album can be so hated on that it becomes a cult classic, ICP built there whole career on that principle, lol

like in movies, a movie like "Attack of the Killer tomatos" is considered awful by 99% of the world, but that 1% who love it made it a cult classic......

Basically, the "So Bad its good" mentality

[EminemBase]

SSLP & MMLP while are sick albums they also have catchy hooks, that's what makes Eminem a song-writer who can write sick verses with memorable hook, far above with those normal battle rappers.

And I really want to know those "concept album" excuse, cuz as I pointed out, there are only few songs that stay to the murder theme, the rest are really random.

They're not random. And the 'concept' isn't just being a killer. It's bigger than that. It's a metamorphosis of every... Evil and significant negative that shady has come to stand for.

He's not really Shady he's just an embodiment of it, that name is just what's known now but he's like a poetic serial killer, taking his vengence on the world. But this is why I say it's more than that, he's not just killing people. With every song, even the ones you mentioned which you pereceive as random...

It's the same thing he's attacking the culture, he's biting back at society, he's being a menance. This is essentially what he embodied in SSLP and what he tries to embody on Relapse. This is why he says it's like SSLP not because his voice sounds the same. Those songs aren't random, they all work conceptually as does "Same Song and Dance" and all of them bar the personal shit.

The only 'odd ones out' are "Crack a Bottle", "Beautiful" and "Deja Vu". But "Deja Vu" fits due to its sound / era. But to misunderstand it as just a horrorcore album or... Just random rhymes is a massive injustice to the artistry in it.

[Fa-Q]

its too bad Recovery didnt come as his comeback in '09 and then as a followup He could have done R1-R2, no accent and he would hav been on his lyrical prowlness and it would have been likea marshall mathersLP pairing

[Alaine]

sorry Embase, not reading your post, I already knew what you're gong to say though, basically always the same.

[Sam.]

people who just look at the accent and bitch are stupid, yes it will/is a classic album.

there has never been a more perfect album with multi's

this

[classthe_king]

people who just look at the accent and bitch are stupid, yes it will/is a classic album.

there has never been a more perfect album with multi's

[EminemBase]

sorry Embase, not reading your post, I already knew what you're gong to say though, basically always the same.

Sure... Okay. Well just continue reading retarded interpretations and stick to your one-sided, bias views and just read things that re-enforce them then. Bigoted fool.

[Alaine]

lol even the reaction after someone disagree with you is the same

[EminemBase]

lol even the reaction after someone disagree with you is the same

You didn't disagree with me. You simply declared you wouldn't read it as it'd be the 'same'. So yes that is being a bigot. Just reading things that re-enforce your views.

@Amadeo - No people are bigots if they... Open debate on an issue but then only choose to take into consideration opinions that re-enforce or don't seriously challenge their own too much. Also, there's no need to put the word bigot in quotes like that, being cocky. It's a real word you know.

[Alaine]

I didn't read because I already knew what's that about, this must be the 12435 time you talked about the "artistry" of Relapse in the same way, I read it once I read it all.