Eminem's Longevity

[Rindain]

It's crazy to think of all the 14 year olds now who were 6 when Eminem Show came out.

Now they're hearing him for the first time and many will scoop up his past catalogue. So now he has a new generation of fans, plus all the fans who were teens when he first came out, and even the fans who were in their twenties/thirties when he came out.

So he has 4 decades worth of people who are fans...this is absolutely crazy. I don't know what else to compare it to.

I'm in the 15 year old category... but by no-means a "new" Em fan.

Just curious...when did you first get into Eminem?

I remember starting to like music when I was 7 or 8, but I didn't buy my first CD until I was 9 or 10. Even then it was Michael Jackson, Guns N Roses and Nirvana, which is so much more innocuous than Em's early stuff.

[Good For Nothing]

I got into him at the end of 2005, probably the worst time as i had to wait 4 years for a new release, i bought all his albums on the same day.

[Shady50]

The same reason why Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake have longevity. It's because their so good that their fans stay loyal and they're legends. Even Em's worst stuff is still good IMO.

[Rindain]

I got into him at the end of 2005, probably the worst time as i had to wait 4 years for a new release, i bought all his albums on the same day.

I'll bet a lot of people got into him through When I'm Gone/Curtain Call. But I think right now he is gaining more fans than ever before besides the 1999-2003 period.

[Good For Nothing]

I got into him at the end of 2005, probably the worst time as i had to wait 4 years for a new release, i bought all his albums on the same day.

I'll bet a lot of people got into him through When I'm Gone/Curtain Call. But I think right now he is gaining more fans than ever before besides the 1999-2003 period.

Thats exactly how it happened actually i got handed a bootleg version of curtain call, and at the end of that i was dying for more Em, I guess that's what greatest hits do.

[Emadyville]

One thing I'll add, that may have to do with his sales and singles success currently...

Is the fact that he has his old fans back, or so it seems, because Recovery is more of the eminem from before than Relapse.

But, he has new fans now because since encore, there was a 5 year period where he didn't drop, not to mention Relapse didn't have singles success, meaning you could stretch that to Recovery and then you have a 6 year period. Finally, if people didn't feel Encore because that lacked singles success as well, you could go from TES to Recovery, making it an 8 year period. But no matter what length you choose, you can obviously say that it gave kids who were young then, and are now in their teens a chance to hear Em for the "first time" so to speak. Which I feel is showing in Recovery's success.

[Good For Nothing]

One thing I'll add, that may have to do with his sales and singles success currently...

Is the fact that he has his old fans back, or so it seems, because Recovery is more of the eminem from before than Relapse.

But, he has new fans now because since encore, there was a 5 year period where he didn't drop, not to mention Relapse didn't have singles success, meaning you could stretch that to Recovery and then you have a 6 year period. Finally, if people didn't feel Encore because that lacked singles success as well, you could go from TES to Recovery, making it an 8 year period. But no matter what length you choose, you can obviously say that it gave kids who were young then, and are now in their teens a chance to hear Em for the "first time" so to speak. Which I feel is showing in Recovery's success.

Shit your right, basically there was a 8 year gap were there was either no music or sub par music, Em's got really patient fans.

[Emadyville]

One thing I'll add, that may have to do with his sales and singles success currently...

Is the fact that he has his old fans back, or so it seems, because Recovery is more of the eminem from before than Relapse.

But, he has new fans now because since encore, there was a 5 year period where he didn't drop, not to mention Relapse didn't have singles success, meaning you could stretch that to Recovery and then you have a 6 year period. Finally, if people didn't feel Encore because that lacked singles success as well, you could go from TES to Recovery, making it an 8 year period. But no matter what length you choose, you can obviously say that it gave kids who were young then, and are now in their teens a chance to hear Em for the "first time" so to speak. Which I feel is showing in Recovery's success.

Shit your right, basically there was a 8 year gap were there was either no music or sub par music, Em's got really patient fans.

Well yeah, but the main point I was trying to make is that Recovery allowed him to gain A LOT of new fans. Because where I was 12 when the mmlp dropped, and 14 when TES dropped, kids who were like 4-10 probably never listened to or knew of him really then, and most likely didn't listen to or own his music. Meaning that when Recovery dropped, and those kids are now 14-20, they probably are listening to it and Em is "new" or at least a "newer" artist to them. With the addition of his patient fans, like most of us, is what is allowing him to see such success on the charts with singles and album sales, especially in a bad economy AND an age where free dling is a given for all generations.

It almost makes his career the perfect storm, his timing in a way, I suppose at least, really aided in his sales success and popularity.

[Good For Nothing]

One thing I'll add, that may have to do with his sales and singles success currently...

Is the fact that he has his old fans back, or so it seems, because Recovery is more of the eminem from before than Relapse.

But, he has new fans now because since encore, there was a 5 year period where he didn't drop, not to mention Relapse didn't have singles success, meaning you could stretch that to Recovery and then you have a 6 year period. Finally, if people didn't feel Encore because that lacked singles success as well, you could go from TES to Recovery, making it an 8 year period. But no matter what length you choose, you can obviously say that it gave kids who were young then, and are now in their teens a chance to hear Em for the "first time" so to speak. Which I feel is showing in Recovery's success.

Shit your right, basically there was a 8 year gap were there was either no music or sub par music, Em's got really patient fans.

Well yeah, but the main point I was trying to make is that Recovery allowed him to gain A LOT of new fans. Because where I was 12 when the mmlp dropped, and 14 when TES dropped, kids who were like 4-10 probably never listened to or knew of him really then, and most likely didn't listen to or own his music. Meaning that when Recovery dropped, and those kids are now 14-20, they probably are listening to it and Em is "new" or at least a "newer" artist to them. With the addition of his patient fans, like most of us, is what is allowing him to see such success on the charts with singles and album sales, especially in a bad economy AND an age where free dling is a given for all generations.

It almost makes his career the perfect storm, his timing in a way, I suppose at least, really aided in his sales success and popularity.

The perfect storm indeed, and like you said since it's the age of Downloading do you think it's safe to say that the MMLP will forever remain the highest selling first week sales for a solo artist ?

[Emadyville]

The perfect storm indeed, and like you said since it's the age of Downloading do you think it's safe to say that the MMLP will forever remain the highest selling first week sales for a solo artist ?

Honestly, yes.

The only way that it can be broken in my opinion would first of all have to be by an artist of his popularity and previous success. And with that said, in addition, it would have to be in part caused by something beyond any marketing, beyond any single or hype anyone ever has...the only thing that comes to mind would be the death of the artist prior to the albums release. I hate to say it, but if Em had died after Recovery was finished, and before it's release date, I can only imagine how many albums he would have sold.

Look at The Dark Knight, it did what it did numbers wise because of his death, that's obvious. I mean think about it, if Em died today, his next week sales would be a few hundred thousand for recovery, and all of his other albums would be in the top 100. Like when MJ died, a lot of his albums are still in the top 200 because of his death, and that was over a year ago.

[Shady50]

The reason he's been around so long is that - apart from Encore - he puts his all into each project.

Eminem is quality over quantity.

Em is really good to his fans as well. If you notice, he always puts around 80 minutes on each CD and fills it to the max and even gives us bonus tracks. Other artist don't do that stuff. Tedious little things like that also make me appreciate him more. He always delivers good stuff to. I'll admit that I loved Encore when it came out.

[Alaine]

His longevity is crazy and it has a bit of everything, imo though the most important thing is his strong personality & charisma that display in his music, no one does it like he does and it naturally attract a lot of people. He's just an exception to almost everything, people come to him for such different reasons, that's why he has such diverse fanbase.

[Elision]

See he's in a whole other weight class

[Mikey1990]

his longevity at being huge is incredible

[Peace_Maker]

He's white. Like it or not it was a big factor in his commercial success. His longevity is due to his talent, a fan base only fades when the talent does.