Ultimate Eminem Song Rankings

[Jaz]

I was saying Rabbit, Run - and the don't give a fucks should have way better ranks.

[DanWS]

ok fine maybe most people think mmlp > tes, but no one thinks recovery > tes

not true.

[DanWS]

But anyways, this list is totally subjective, so....

[E&M]

I wouldn't give yellow brick road 32 only but it's pretty accurate for me

[sully10x]

I wouldn't give yellow brick road 32 only but it's pretty accurate for me

Bumped the concept of YBR up, so it's not a 33. I have a hard time raising any other aspect though. It moved up about 10 spots.

[sully10x]

But anyways, this list is totally subjective, so....

It may be subjective, but I feel its pretty accurate. And I'm open to any opinions in perfecting it therefor in the long run it's not really subjective.

[DanWS]

But anyways, this list is totally subjective, so....

It may be subjective, but I feel its pretty accurate. And I'm open to any opinions in perfecting it therefor in the long run it's not really subjective.

It's pretty accurate how? Also, you feel it's pretty accurate, but other people won't feel that way. There will be others that feel certain things are not accurate at all, because their opinion of one of the criteria being judged is different. Not trying to be a dickhead here, just pointing out that the list IS subjective. Even if the "majority" of the fans feel a particular way about something it is still their opinion and who's to say which is the correct opinion?

Just out of interest, how was each score calculated? Was there a poll of some sort where lots of people from TRshady voted? If so it would be more correct to say that "these scores are reflective of a particular Eminem fanbase".

[sully10x]

But anyways, this list is totally subjective, so....

It may be subjective, but I feel its pretty accurate. And I'm open to any opinions in perfecting it therefor in the long run it's not really subjective.

It's pretty accurate how? Also, you feel it's pretty accurate, but other people won't feel that way. There will be others that feel certain things are not accurate at all, because their opinion of one of the criteria being judged is different. Not trying to be a dickhead here, just pointing out that the list IS subjective. Even if the "majority" of the fans feel a particular way about something it is still their opinion and who's to say which is the correct opinion?

Just out of interest, how was each score calculated? Was there a poll of some sort where lots of people from TRshady voted? If so it would be more correct to say that "these scores are reflective of a particular Eminem fanbase".

The scores in each category were originally ranked by me. I've listened to each song on this list from 100 to 1000 times so I know them pretty well. It's easy to give a score in one aspect of something without being objective. It's easy to determine how good a concept, or the production is. From that, the pieces fall into place.

If you see anything you feel is blatantly incorrect, let me know. Otherwise I don't see what you are arguing about.

[DanWS]

The scores in each category were originally ranked by me. I've listened to each song on this list from 100 to 1000 times so I know them pretty well. It's easy to give a score in one aspect of something without being objective. It's easy to determine how good a concept, or the production is. From that, the pieces fall into place.

If you see anything you feel is blatantly incorrect, let me know. Otherwise I don't see what you are arguing about.

The point I'm making is that the list is totally subjective, i.e. it is reflective of YOUR opinion. The fact that you just said the list is made up by your opinions solely make it even more subjective.

OK, so you rate the "production on a track". That is based on your opinion of the beat.
You rate the "concept". That rating is based on your opinion of the concept.
You rate the "rapping". That rating is based on your opinion of the rapping.
You rate the "writing". That rating is based on your opinion of the writing.
You rate the "delivery". That rating is based on your opinion of the delivery.

OK, now that we have established that all the categories being rated are based on your opinion, how can you tell me that it is not really subjective? Just because you might have listened to the track 1000 times it doesnt make your opinion any less subjective, lol.

Even if I gave you an amazing reason as to why a beat that you have as a 6 should be a 10 it wouldnt mean it was objective because it would be my opinion of the beat. Even if 1000 people did the same, it would still be subjective. Any ranking in music is subjective. It's not like a sport where you have evidence that you can point to and say "oh, he scored this many points and won this many titles and broke this many records" so we have proof of how good/bad the sportsman/woman was.

[sully10x]

The scores in each category were originally ranked by me. I've listened to each song on this list from 100 to 1000 times so I know them pretty well. It's easy to give a score in one aspect of something without being objective. It's easy to determine how good a concept, or the production is. From that, the pieces fall into place.

If you see anything you feel is blatantly incorrect, let me know. Otherwise I don't see what you are arguing about.

The point I'm making is that the list is totally subjective, i.e. it is reflective of YOUR opinion. The fact that you just said the list is made up by your opinions solely make it even more subjective.

OK, so you rate the "production on a track". That is based on your opinion of the beat.
You rate the "concept". That rating is based on your opinion of the concept.
You rate the "rapping". That rating is based on your opinion of the rapping.
You rate the "writing". That rating is based on your opinion of the writing.
You rate the "delivery". That rating is based on your opinion of the delivery.

OK, now that we have established that all the categories being rated are based on your opinion, how can you tell me that it is not really subjective? Just because you might have listened to the track 1000 times it doesnt make your opinion any less subjective, lol.

Even if I gave you an amazing reason as to why a beat that you have as a 6 should be a 10 it wouldnt mean it was objective because it would be my opinion of the beat. Even if 1000 people did the same, it would still be subjective. Any ranking in music is subjective. It's not like a sport where you have evidence that you can point to and say "oh, he scored this many points and won this many titles and broke this many records" so we have proof of how good/bad the sportsman/woman was.

I'm not arguing that a rankings list isn't subjective -- any and all rankings lists will always be subjective.

What I'm saying is that with some help, we can make this list very accurate since it is broken down into several aspects rather than ranking the songs as a whole. This system gives a ranking based on the inputs, but It's not like I chose to rank one song ahead of another unless they are the same rating.

[Cam_24]

TES Has a handful of great songs, but a handful of mediocre ones (Business, Hailey's Song, Say What You Say, Say Goodbye to Hollywood) and to me, a bunch that are nearly unlistenable (Square Dance, When the Music Stops, Drips, My Dad's Gone Crazy.

Recovery only has a couple that would fall on either of this list in my opinion (Won't Back Down, So Bad)

Square Dance and My Dad's Gone Crazy are dope man. And Say Goodbye Hollywood is definitely better than mediocre.

[sully10x]

TES Has a handful of great songs, but a handful of mediocre ones (Business, Hailey's Song, Say What You Say, Say Goodbye to Hollywood) and to me, a bunch that are nearly unlistenable (Square Dance, When the Music Stops, Drips, My Dad's Gone Crazy.

Recovery only has a couple that would fall on either of this list in my opinion (Won't Back Down, So Bad)

Square Dance and My Dad's Gone Crazy are dope man. And Say Goodbye Hollywood is definitely better than mediocre.

Bumped some of these TES sngs up a bit.

My Dad's Gone Crazy up to 93.
Say Goodbye to Hollywood up to 73.

Eminem Show is VERY close behind Recovery for 2nd on the Album list.

Keep up the help everyone, the list is defintiely shaping up.

[sully10x]

Updated with top 15 rankings on main post.