Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

[WakeUpShow]

i think if his next album is all dre, em, premo, ye beats + sh, royce, nas and lyricist features + and focus on storytelling and concepts= em on the right track

[slimshadylappin]

he completely dropped the album of what HE wanted to do to the album that the label/fans wanted him to do.

1. Em did not want to do Relapse 2. He changed his mind. If he really wanted to do Relapse 2 he would have done it. But I think that he changed his mind about the quality of the album after he took a second look at it. Im not saying that I agree with him but I don't think he really liked after it got released.

2. And whats so bad about doing an album ur fans want.

[Master Chief]

This right here.

Tech = sellout too? He's collabing with Wayne. That's pretty retarded.

I guess you could say that, people should stop being so offended if their favorite artists is supposedly selling out. I love k-os and he collabed with Drake...

Tech is not selling out...

[classthe_king]

Tech N9ne is trying to get exposure, there's nothing wrong with that. But guess what, Eminem already has all the exposure in the world, he doesn't need anymore. That's the point you blind stans keep missing. Eminem=Sellout. That's a fact.

Now if Tech N9ne switches to Lil Wayne's style on the collab yes he's selling out.

He changed his mind because it's what the fans and the label wanted him to do.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Tech N9ne is trying to get exposure, there's nothing wrong with that. But guess what, Eminem already has all the exposure in the world, he doesn't need anymore. That's the point you blind stans keep missing. Eminem=Sellout. That's a fact.

Now if Tech N9ne switches to Lil Wayne's style on the collab yes he's selling out.

He changed his mind because it's what the fans and the label wanted him to do.

Em's not "rapping like Lil Wayne" at all. The closest he's gotten to spitting like Wayne was the Amelia Earhart line from Celebrity, which got cut. Em didn't change his style for Lil Wayne, he changed it because he wanted to. He didn't collaborate for Lil Wayne to sell more records, he collaborated with him because he wanted to. Rihanna was just a good business move, but not selling out, collaborations do NOT make people sell outs

You said it yourself that if Sadistik collaborated with Wayne, he wouldn't be a sell out? But Em IS?

[dead prez]

Em's not "rapping like Lil Wayne" at all. The closest he's gotten to spitting like Wayne was the Amelia Earhart line from Celebrity, which got cut. Em didn't change his style for Lil Wayne, he changed it because he wanted to. He didn't collaborate for Lil Wayne to sell more records, he collaborated with him because he wanted to. Rihanna was just a good business move, but not selling out, collaborations do NOT make people sell outs

You said it yourself that if Sadistik collaborated with Wayne, he wouldn't be a sell out? But Em IS?

Do you have fucking reading comprehension man? I mean I'm trying to be patient here.

Eminem already has all the exposure in the world collabing with Wayne would benefit Wayne more than him, and the reason it's selling out is because he is so far above him that it's ridiculous. He could collab with guys like Nas, Andre, Lupe Fiasco, Raekwon but decides to be a lazy fuck and collab with Wayne of all people, Rihanna, and Nicki Minaj... I love how Jay z is a sell out , but someone like Eminem isn't double standards ftw.


As far as Sadistik don't really care to address that point and already said that K-os is a sellout for collabing with Drake even though i love his music.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Em's not "rapping like Lil Wayne" at all. The closest he's gotten to spitting like Wayne was the Amelia Earhart line from Celebrity, which got cut. Em didn't change his style for Lil Wayne, he changed it because he wanted to. He didn't collaborate for Lil Wayne to sell more records, he collaborated with him because he wanted to. Rihanna was just a good business move, but not selling out, collaborations do NOT make people sell outs

You said it yourself that if Sadistik collaborated with Wayne, he wouldn't be a sell out? But Em IS?

Do you have fucking reading comprehension man? I mean I'm trying to be patient here.

Eminem already has all the exposure in the world collabing with Wayne would benefit Wayne more than him, and the reason it's selling out is because he is so far above him that it's ridiculous. He could collab with guys like Nas, Andre, Lupe Fiasco, Raekwon but decides to be a lazy fuck and collab with Wayne of all people, Rihanna, and Nicki Minaj... I love how Jay z is a sell out , but someone like Eminem isn't double standards ftw.


As far as Sadistik don't really care to address that point and already said that K-os is a sellout for collabing with Drake even though i love his music.

Do YOU even have any idea what I was talking about?

class basically said that Tech wouldn't be a sell out because he wouldn't "rap like Lil Wayne" or something stupid like that. What I said has nothing to do with exposure, that's a different conversation, that's not what I responded to. Lil Wayne did not sell Recovery, Rihanna did, but collaborating with Rihanna doesn't make someone a fucking sell out. Dumbing lyrics down, making actual pop music, that's selling out. Em didn't do it for recognition, he already has enough of it by himself. Em collaborated with Wayne because HE THINKS HE'S DOPE

I thought you liked Lil Wayne, anyway?

[EminemInsider]

Tech N9ne is trying to get exposure, there's nothing wrong with that. But guess what, Eminem already has all the exposure in the world, he doesn't need anymore. That's the point you blind stans keep missing. Eminem=Sellout. That's a fact.

Now if Tech N9ne switches to Lil Wayne's style on the collab yes he's selling out.

He changed his mind because it's what the fans and the label wanted him to do.

LOL @ you thinking Eminem gives a flying fuck about money now. The dude doesn't even know what to do with the money he has...he wears a cheap watch and his largest expense these days is probably on Red Bull.

[classthe_king]

Em's not "rapping like Lil Wayne" at all. The closest he's gotten to spitting like Wayne was the Amelia Earhart line from Celebrity, which got cut. Em didn't change his style for Lil Wayne, he changed it because he wanted to. He didn't collaborate for Lil Wayne to sell more records, he collaborated with him because he wanted to. Rihanna was just a good business move, but not selling out, collaborations do NOT make people sell outs

You said it yourself that if Sadistik collaborated with Wayne, he wouldn't be a sell out? But Em IS?

Do you have fucking reading comprehension man? I mean I'm trying to be patient here.

Eminem already has all the exposure in the world collabing with Wayne would benefit Wayne more than him, and the reason it's selling out is because he is so far above him that it's ridiculous. He could collab with guys like Nas, Andre, Lupe Fiasco, Raekwon but decides to be a lazy fuck and collab with Wayne of all people, Rihanna, and Nicki Minaj... I love how Jay z is a sell out , but someone like Eminem isn't double standards ftw.


As far as Sadistik don't really care to address that point and already said that K-os is a sellout for collabing with Drake even though i love his music.

Do YOU even have any idea what I was talking about?

class basically said that Tech wouldn't be a sell out because he wouldn't "rap like Lil Wayne" or something stupid like that. What I said has nothing to do with exposure, that's a different conversation, that's not what I responded to. Lil Wayne did not sell Recovery, Rihanna did, but collaborating with Rihanna doesn't make someone a fucking sell out. Dumbing lyrics down, making actual pop music, that's selling out. Em didn't do it for recognition, he already has enough of it by himself. Em collaborated with Wayne because HE THINKS HE'S DOPE

I thought you liked Lil Wayne, anyway?

You really do have no reading comprehension lmfao. I said Tech N9ne isn't selling out because he's doing it for the exposure, NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT. Eminem doesn't need exposure. Eminem collabed with Lil Wayne because he wants to? YEAH CAUSE HE'S A FUCKING SELLOUT. He's not dumbing down his lyrics? His lyrics were never smart to begin with, but now his lyrics are awful.

"What you think, I'm doing this for me, so fuck the world
Feed it beans, it's gassed up, if a thing's stopping me"

"He's married to the game, like a fuck you for christmas
His gift is a curse, forget the earth he's got the urge
To pull his dick from the dirt and fuck the universe"

"Ok quit playin' with the scissors and shit, and cut the crap"


"But it's time to exercise these demons
These motherfuckers are doing jumping jacks now"

"My world, haters can make like bees with no stingers, and drop dead"


"So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof like my daughters and raise it"


"Cause the way I feel, I'm strong enough to go to the club
Or the corner pub and lift the whole liquor counter up
Cause I'm raising the bar"


Eminem=Sellout

[whiteamerica]

Eminem sold out not only because of his collaborations but because of the beats he started choosing, how he changed his style to the Lil Wayne style of doing atrocious punchlines and he completely dropped the album of what HE wanted to do to the album that the label/fans wanted him to do. He even apologized for his old album, wtf?

[xxTrigger1989xx]

You really do have no reading comprehension lmfao. I said Tech N9ne isn't selling out because he's doing it for the exposure, NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT. Eminem doesn't need exposure. Eminem collabed with Lil Wayne because he wants to? YEAH CAUSE HE'S A FUCKING SELLOUT. He's not dumbing down his lyrics? His lyrics were never smart to begin with, but now his lyrics are awful.

"What you think, I'm doing this for me, so fuck the world
Feed it beans, it's gassed up, if a thing's stopping me"

"He's married to the game, like a fuck you for christmas
His gift is a curse, forget the earth he's got the urge
To pull his dick from the dirt and fuck the universe"

"Ok quit playin' with the scissors and shit, and cut the crap"


"But it's time to exercise these demons
These motherfuckers are doing jumping jacks now"

"My world, haters can make like bees with no stingers, and drop dead"


"So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof like my daughters and raise it"


"Cause the way I feel, I'm strong enough to go to the club
Or the corner pub and lift the whole liquor counter up
Cause I'm raising the bar"


Eminem=Sellout

You take the worst song off of Recovery, lyrically, and don't use any other song



Collaborating with someone doesn't make you a fucking sell out, are you retarded? Em didn't do it for exposure you fucking close-minded fuck, he doesn't NEED it. Wayne didn't sell Recovery you fucking idiot. Like really, all you're doing in this section is trolling. YOU DON'T LIKE EMINEM ANYMORE, SO WHY THE FUCK COME TO THIS PART OF THE FORUM? To fucking argue and waste your time doing it. Instead of putting so much effort into trying to make US feel like shit for being Eminem fans, why don't you work on YOUR OWN music, and then blow up and come back and talk to us, rather than criticizing the music of others? GTFO, I'm done with arguing with a close-minded fuckhead, wannabe know-it-all. Because really, you just sound like a jackass and a tool

[dead prez]

You really do have no reading comprehension lmfao. I said Tech N9ne isn't selling out because he's doing it for the exposure, NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT. Eminem doesn't need exposure. Eminem collabed with Lil Wayne because he wants to? YEAH CAUSE HE'S A FUCKING SELLOUT. He's not dumbing down his lyrics? His lyrics were never smart to begin with, but now his lyrics are awful.

Or he could have fell off, pick and choose. I'll be positive and just say he fell off.

[rinnie1207]

Eminem=Sellout

If all you are going to do is bitch and moan about Em, why the fuck are you on an Eminem fan forum? I haven't seen you post anything positive about Em, all I see is you talking about, how he is a sellout. Which, he is not, by the way. And God forbid, someone has a different opinion than you. Because if someone has a different opinion than you, you think they are wrong. You don't even give them a chance.

Just because Em has collaborated with certain people does not make him a sellout. Period.

Em collaborated with Lil Wayne and Rihanna because he wanted to.

[classthe_king]

You really do have no reading comprehension lmfao. I said Tech N9ne isn't selling out because he's doing it for the exposure, NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT. Eminem doesn't need exposure. Eminem collabed with Lil Wayne because he wants to? YEAH CAUSE HE'S A FUCKING SELLOUT. He's not dumbing down his lyrics? His lyrics were never smart to begin with, but now his lyrics are awful.

"What you think, I'm doing this for me, so fuck the world
Feed it beans, it's gassed up, if a thing's stopping me"

"He's married to the game, like a fuck you for christmas
His gift is a curse, forget the earth he's got the urge
To pull his dick from the dirt and fuck the universe"

"Ok quit playin' with the scissors and shit, and cut the crap"


"But it's time to exercise these demons
These motherfuckers are doing jumping jacks now"

"My world, haters can make like bees with no stingers, and drop dead"


"So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof like my daughters and raise it"


"Cause the way I feel, I'm strong enough to go to the club
Or the corner pub and lift the whole liquor counter up
Cause I'm raising the bar"


Eminem=Sellout

You take the worst song off of Recovery, lyrically, and don't use any other song



Collaborating with someone doesn't make you a fucking sell out, are you retarded? Em didn't do it for exposure you fucking close-minded fuck, he doesn't NEED it. Wayne didn't sell Recovery you fucking idiot. Like really, all you're doing in this section is trolling. YOU DON'T LIKE EMINEM ANYMORE, SO WHY THE FUCK COME TO THIS PART OF THE FORUM? To fucking argue and waste your time doing it. Instead of putting so much effort into trying to make US feel like shit for being Eminem fans, why don't you work on YOUR OWN music, and then blow up and come back and talk to us, rather than criticizing the music of others? GTFO, I'm done with arguing with a close-minded fuckhead, wannabe know-it-all. Because really, you just sound like a jackass and a tool

1. I picked his LEAD SINGLE. The one that everyone heard first and the most. The one that he wanted to expose himself with. Besides, I could find lines like that on every song besides a couple if I wanted to.
2. You've said that over and over again. You act like him collabing with Lil Wayne is the only reason we're saying he's selling out. It's not lmfao.
3. Exactly he doesn't need it.
4. Also, so you're saying that Eminem collabed with Lil Wayne because he truly thought he was dope? So that would explain why he switched his style to Lil Wayne's style. Switching your style to Lil Wayne's style = selling out.
5. I'll check this forum if I see posts from members I like and I saw Amadeo's post in this thread and it enticed me so I stayed around.
6. I am working on my own music, that doesn't mean it's all I do 24/7.
7. How ironic is it that you're calling me close-minded. I'm one of the least close-minded people on this forum. All of you Eminem fans are the ones that are close-minded. lolz


He fell off by selling out. It goes hand in hand.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

You really do have no reading comprehension lmfao. I said Tech N9ne isn't selling out because he's doing it for the exposure, NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT. Eminem doesn't need exposure. Eminem collabed with Lil Wayne because he wants to? YEAH CAUSE HE'S A FUCKING SELLOUT. He's not dumbing down his lyrics? His lyrics were never smart to begin with, but now his lyrics are awful.

"What you think, I'm doing this for me, so fuck the world
Feed it beans, it's gassed up, if a thing's stopping me"

"He's married to the game, like a fuck you for christmas
His gift is a curse, forget the earth he's got the urge
To pull his dick from the dirt and fuck the universe"

"Ok quit playin' with the scissors and shit, and cut the crap"


"But it's time to exercise these demons
These motherfuckers are doing jumping jacks now"

"My world, haters can make like bees with no stingers, and drop dead"


"So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof like my daughters and raise it"


"Cause the way I feel, I'm strong enough to go to the club
Or the corner pub and lift the whole liquor counter up
Cause I'm raising the bar"


Eminem=Sellout

get a fucking grip