OFFICAL **RELAPSE THREAD**

[Shady'baby.]

Carter III > Relapse

Truth

[NateA92]

Carter III > Relapse

Truth

sarcasm?

[RealSickLindley]

Carter III > Relapse

Truth

Getting raped by Step dad>>>>>>>Jacking off on Autotune

[RealSickLindley]

lollipop > loose yourself/stan/way i am/3am/beautiful

just saying

The shit i just took>>>Recycling>>>Paedophiles>>>The Stock Market>>>This Thread>>>Lollipop

[Shady'baby.]

player hater

[RealSickLindley]

player hater

Good music lover

[313]

Btw, if someone buys the delux edition, does it count towards the general sales of Relapse as far as billboard and the other charts? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

I also want to know this! Pls someone help

[ShadyVsEminem]

Got my copy today they were nearly all gone only a few left.Anyone who thinks The Carter 3 is better than Relapse is retarded and doesnt know what they are talking about.Eminem raps circles around Wayne its no wonder he pushed that piece of shit Rebirth back to avoid going head to head with Eminem.

[AJS2050]

Got my copy today they were nearly all gone only a few left.Anyone who thinks The Carter 3 is better than Relapse is retarded and doesnt know what they are talking about.Eminem raps circles around Wayne its no wonder he pushed that piece of shit Rebirth back to avoid going head to head with Eminem.

same

[AJS2050]

Btw, if someone buys the delux edition, does it count towards the general sales of Relapse as far as billboard and the other charts? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

I also want to know this! Pls someone help

i believe it does, well its gotta to do aint it

[RealSickLindley]

Btw, if someone buys the delux edition, does it count towards the general sales of Relapse as far as billboard and the other charts? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

I also want to know this! Pls someone help

i believe it does, well its gotta to do aint it

I thought so, but i got confused when people were saying that the 2 different versions were at different positions in the charts, like they were going against each other as separate products lol

S'all good then, so fucking glad it went above Lilly "i made my own career with talent (Daddys money)" Allen in like 10 hours lol

[Vengeance]

bought my copy today, going to buy the deluxe too, i just couldnt wait for the original cd lol

[ch_ch_chainsaw]

Here's my Relapse review (sorry for the length):

There are not many rappers who have 3 albums as strong as “The Slim Shady LP”, “The Marshall Mathers LP” and “The Eminem Show” in their discography. Is it fair to expect an album of that calibre from Relapse? I would say not judging from his last LP “Encore”. The people expecting an album of that quality were always going to be disappointed. I made sure that my expectations were not unrealistically high for this record, and unfortunately the album's lead single “We Made You” did a good job of keeping down those expectations. However the album is definitely a move in the right direction.

From Encore, Eminem takes a step forward with his lyrics, rhymes and flow but seems to take a step backwards in terms of his delivery. Most of his fans are growing tired of his different accents and “funny voices”, the main offender being a bizarre middle eastern voice which he seems to slip into far to much. It is often completely unnecessary and seems to be a habitual thing now. It is a shame as it seems to take some of the sting out of his words. Back on the Marshall Mathers LP, when he delivers the lines:

"You probably think I'm in your tape deck now
I'm in the back seat of your truck, with duct tape stretched out
Ducked the fuck way down, waiting to straight jump out
Put it over your mouth, and grab you by the face, what now?"

There was a power in his delivery which made me want to check behind me just to make sure he wasn't really there. These lines delivered in one of his wacky new voices just wouldn't have the same impact and it detracts from Relapse significantly. Ok, that's the accent stuff out the way, I won't mention it again.

Once you start to get over the delivery on these songs, you start to see that there is some content really worth listening to. The opening skit is fantastic, setting up the tone and theme of the album perfectly. It does a great job in getting you hyped and slams straight into the horror driven second single “3am” which in my opinion is one of the strongest tracks on the album. It has a great beat from Dre and the three menacing verses from Em create vivid imagery and deliver crazy rhymes up to his highest standard.

"I wrapped him in christmas lights pushed him into the stinkin tub
Cut him up into pieces, then just when I went to drink his blood
I thought I outta drink this bath water, that outta be fun
That's when my days of serial murder man slaughter begun
The sight of blood excites me, that might be an artery son
Your blood curdling screams just don't seem to bother me none
It's 3 am and here I come so you should probably run
A secret passage way around here man there's got to be one
Oh no there's probably none, he can scream all that he wants
Top of his lungs, it aint no stoppin me from choppin him up"

The following 2 tracks are quite good if a little disturbing, both containing some amusing moments.

"Marshall I just love you boy I care about your well-being
No dad I said no, I don't need no help peeing
I'm a big boy I can do it by myself see
I only get naked when the babysitter tells me"

Hmm, bit weird, but it's quite a funny track if you can stomach the felching stuff.

Track 7 “Hello” is a good track. The beat is great again and the hook is catchy as hell, but when listening to it all I can think is “If he's been given this beat 10 years ago he would have shredded the shit out of it”. However he has some good lines in it and over all it is a solid track.

Another great skit “Tonya” leads nicely into the haunting song “Same Song and Dance”. This track is a highlight for me with the beautifully haunting beat perfectly complimenting the eerily calm delivery of the psychotic chorus.

"Yeah baby, do that dance
It's the last dance you'll ever get the chance to do
Girl shake that ass
You ain't ever gonna break that glass
The windshield's too strong for you"


“Beautiful” is a more personal ballad and contains a sample from the song “Reaching Out” from Queen & Paul Rodgers. It is one of the strongest tracks on the album, although it doesn't compare to a song like “Sing For the Moment” from “The Eminem Show”. He ran the risk of sounding corny with some of the lyrics in the song but he pulls it off well. It is a moment of touching sincerity amongst an album of rapes, murders and blackouts and I will be playing it plenty of times.

“Bagpipes From Baghdad”, “Medicine Ball”, “Stay Wide Awake” and “Must Be The Ganja”, are all okay but nothing special. The “Paul” and “Steve Berman” skits are both good.

The two remaining singles are weak in my opinion. “Old Time's Sake” has nothing to offer and “Crack a Bottle” shouldn't have made the album.

Deja Vu is a solid track. It's nice to hear some more personal stuff.

The final track “Underground” is one of the best on the album. I don't think that there's an Eminem fan that didn't crack at least a little smile when they heard the words “A lot of people ask me . . .”
The 5/4 time signature during the apocalyptic chorus is disorientating and the lyrics and delivery hark back to the days of the Marshall Mathers LP:

"'Cause last year was a tragedy that landed me smack dab in rehab
Fucking doctor I didn't understand a damn what he said
I planned to relapse the second I walked out of that bitch
...
Insanity can it be vanity, where's the humanity,
In having a twisted fantasy with an arm and leg amputee?
Straight jacket with 108 brackets
And a strap the wraps twice around my back then they latch it"

Relapse is a fairly good effort however I don't think Em has it in him anymore to make another classic album. It is good enough however to excite me for the next instalment which will hopefully be arriving before the end of the year.

7/10

Highlights: 3am, Same Song & Dance, Deja Vu, Beautiful, Underground

[Dommo]

Okay, first post. Seems like a good place to start. I'll throw in a track-by-track review to kick things off. Before I start though, I'll just mention that, while I've grown up on Eminem and each of his albums represents a piece of myself at one stage or another, I'm not a big hip-hop fan, infact, I don't listen to a lot of music, period. So let's get right into it - I'll give each song a number, but I'll just have a comment for the skits:

1. Dr. West:
Brilliant opening. I had a big grin on my face when this began, and it all feels very professional. Good acting from both parties.

2. 3am:
Since the single release, I've actually really enjoyed this song. It seems to cop a lot of unnecessary hate, but I think the accent suites the song well. It's an appropriately dark way to kick off the album, with some Shady spark. A rather catchy tune. 8/10

3. My Mom:
Another nice track. I always enjoy something a bit more personal than just wreaking havoc on celebrities, even if it's in the same fictional vein as Brain Damage. My Mom is not as sincere or emotional as Cleaning out my Closet, but this is certainly the direction to go. I like the hook, and there's an underlying seriousness to it all. 7/10

4. Insane:
Incredibly fucked up. Reminds me of something from the Slim Shady LP. It's lyrically, err, insane, and the chorus is nice, but can get repetitive by the end. 6/10

5. Bagpipes from Baghdad:
Awesome beat here. An incredibly catchy tune. And, another awesome flow from Eminem. Works wonderfully, except I hate that accent he uses in the chorus. 8/10

6. Hello:
Love the chorus and tune. Not much more I can say, just a really enjoyable song. 8/10

7. Tonya:
Predictable, but very well done, and goes hand in hand with the Dr. West skit. The intermissions on this album are simply my favorite from any of the Eminem albums. They all have at least some purpose and fit so well.

8. Same Song and Dance
Awesome juxtaposition, and incredibly creepy. It's kind of the same creepy and depressing sound as If I Had, abeit not as personal or emotional. 7/10

9. We Made You
Upon release as a single, I was worried for Relapse. I'm not a fan of this song. The 'funny, celebrity bashing, wacky first single' has become tiring, and it's no where near as catchy as it once was (The Real Slim Shady). It's got nice wordplay, but the accent is especially frustrating here, and the chorus barely fits with the verses. 5/10

10. Medicine Ball
Nice song, if a little bland - that is, until the third verse, which is an unnecessary bash on Christopher Reeve, which is become pretty tired. Either way, I like the tune, like the chorus, and I like the lyrics in the first two verses. 6/10

11. Paul
Goes hand in hand with the past Paul skits, and breaks up the songs nicely. It's good to hear his voice.

12. Stay Wide Awake
Loved it. Awesome wordplay, sweet tune, and a masterful hook. I simply can't get 'Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart' out of my head. What an awesome, catch track. 9/10

13. Old Time's Sake
Good to hear Dre and Eminem together again. Not as impactful as prior songs, but still good. 7/10

14. Must be the Ganja
I've heard great things about this one, but it didn't run with me the same way as everyone else. Probably the most bland hook of the album. But good wordplay once again. 6/10

15. Mr. Mathers
Love this skit, as from here on out, the album raises a notch or two. It, once again, goes hand in hand with Dr. West, and it's at this point we clearly get the picture that Relapse showing Eminem picking himself up from patient back to rapper. Awesome interlude.

16. Déjà Vu
Now this is where things get interesting. The Slim Shady persona that has dominated the first 3/4 of the album is indeed fresh once again, but in this personal song, it takes a back seat and lets Marshall do the talking. The reference to Hailie is great, the lyrics are excellent, the beat is so dope, and the chorus sent tingles down my spine. Just awesome. I hope to see some more tracks like this on Relapse 2. 9.5/10

17. Beautiful
After Déjà Vu I wasn't expecting a track to top it. Ridiculously, the very next track does just that. Beautiful, for me right now, is damn near perfect. It follows the same vein as Sing For the Moment and Lose Yourself, but, I think Beautiful just tops them. The lyrics may be less significant than those mentioned, but the production of the song is just riveting. Everything about it hits its stride. The intro tune, the instant hard, torn rap pounding straight after, the beautiful chorus that harks back to Hailie's Song. My first listen of Beautiful hit me on the head in the same way that Hailie's Song and Kim did all those years ago. Just, absolutely wonderful. 10/10

18. Crack a Bottle
This song gets the most flak out of all on the album, but I don't find that much wrong with it. After Deja Vu and Beautiful, it's a welcome, fun song as a precursor to the intense finale. Eminem does well, the chorus is catchy, but 50 Cents verse is horrible. A fun song. 6.5/10

19. Steve Berman
Awesome to hear it. It's great they don't dismiss what took place in the Eminem Show skit, and instead follow up with it. I had, once again, a big grin on my face throughout, and for those who hadn't heard about the sequel album (not sure who, but just assuming), Eminem's last line would have come as a "Oh... shit, that's awesome" moment. Great, nostalgic stuff.

20. Underground
At this point, I didn't really care how Underground played out. I was satisfied. But upon hearing the "A lot of people ask me..." my huge grin from the Steve Berman skit turned into ecstatic laughter. It was so great to hear that again, and then bam! The song just rocked all the way through. Certainly in the same vein as Criminal, maybe Till I Collapse. A riveting, hard, explosive climax to the album. 9.5/10

Final Score: 8/10

As with all Eminem albums, there are the (IMO) ups and downs. Relapse I think, despite the apparent surface, develops Eminem's persona quite a bit. I loved the theme of raising Eminem throughout until the end where he's finally back and ready to go. This is especially awesome knowing a sequel album is dropping at the end of the year. Yes, there was a lack of deep songs, but that's absolutely understandable after his events over the past couple of years, and I think there's no less substance on here than Encore, and maybe even The Slim Shady LP. I do hope, however, we get a more personal album in Relapse 2 (And nothing redundant), which would fit perfectly with Relapse.

Eminem has certainly not lost it. He's back, rapping better than anyone in the game right now. Now just a few more emotional and personal tracks, and I couldn't fault him. If Eminem were a fictional character, he'd be the best written character ever I feel. His life is so goddamn interesting, strange, traumatic, depressing, hopeful, angry and beautiful. He's had friends, friends lost, enemies, sometimes himself, and he transmits this through his music, which is all he knows. This is leagues, miles, tonnes, galaxies away from some of the 'women and cash' rappers I've heard on occasion. If Eminem sticks to telling his story, there's nothing but a winning formula.

[tigrot]

i really liked the album...especially beutiful!!

i am really confused about the negative feedback em got about We Made You....To my opinion, this is one of the greatest songs in the album since it catches everyone's ears. unfortunately, hip-hop / rap is a type of music where either you love it or you hate it....there's no midway....but We Made you successfully gets all attention from both sides..... In fact, my girlfriend hates rap and hip-hop (especially eminem since i am a really big fan and she gets tired watching me being "fanatic") but when she listened to this song she at least said "yhe it's good" compared to his other songs where she says "i cannot understand how you listen to this crap"

i think we made you successfully bought everyones attention....