Eminem >>>>> Everybody

[EminemBase]

Eminem is garbage now and anyone who still thinks he's the best rapper is just fucking ignorant to any other music being put out cause there are so many rappers that are putting out much better music than him. He fell off, except it and stopped acting like fucking faggots.

This was on topic Emadyville so blow me.

Or they just like the music...You could totally hate the current Em, while someone else loves it. Your opinions don't matter any more than anyone elses. It's not "I'm right, you're wrong", because in music no one will ever be wrong. It comes down to what you like, and you've made it very clear what you like, but no need to call Em fans "stupid" and "faggots" just because you don't like it. To generalize like you just did, is ignorant

Don't mean to start beef, but seeing shit like this pisses me off. You could have put it better, but you didn't, it was all negative

You can argue that you like it but you can't argue he's the best, because at this point other people are better than him and that's fact

Well no it's not fact, because it's taste.

It's not a sport which can be measured. You could probably find rapper(s) that use more multi's than him etc. but that's a tiny percentage of what goes into being a good rapper, and artist.

If somebody fucking LOVES space and science then to them, Canibus will seem incredible where as to somebody who can't stand that stuff, it'll just be annoying.

There's also the question of personality. You can't name a rapper and say "it's a FACT this guy is better" lmao. Because a fact is objective and an opinion is subjective. One man's meat is another man's poison, so no you can't say it's a fact other people are better.

You can say you think other people are better. Just like other people can say they think Em's better. You're contradicting yourself by saying "You can argue that you like it but you can't argue he's the best". That's really silly.

I don't see why you keep going round in circles with this shit either. You think Em has fell-off and don't like him as much... Okay, we know. What more do you need to say? Why have this debate with people every other night. It's really boring.

[M15HKA]

Overall in terms of what he has done through his career he is the most complete rapper there has ever been. He can do anything and pull it off. Always changed it up leaving his comfort zone. Currently he doesn't match it with other rappers i bump, but that does not mean i will stop listening to him. He still makes good tracks but they are not mind blowing, or technically as good as he is capable of. Maybe it is because he is not doing Eminem but what is now accepted as rap in the mainstream. Career wise yes Eminem>everybody, but claiming that current Eminem is better than other rappers out there is very ignorant.

[dR3]

I just deleted like 10 comments about JAGODA's grammar.

[classthe_king]

Eminembase I agree with you, but at this point in Eminem's career there are some rappers that if you dissected all there lyrics and all the aspects of rap and compared them to Eminem right now it wouldn't be close who is better

[pfati]

even though this isnt new eminem news,,, i LOVE you for making this thread,,, honestly, there has been so many threads that are just about all the negative things about EM but we barely see threads anymore that are postive,,,, and i fucking love his new songs except for celebrity,,, i dont think i'm not the only one to notice but Em is not as choppy as he was like a year ago,,, i mean compare his airplanes verse to his new verses.... he's got his flow back and eminem is a BAWSEE and i am fucking LOVING his new tracks

[biterph0bia]

Saying he's above everybody is a bit too much imo, though I am a huge fan.

While most rapper's spit line for line and don't dig too deep, Eminem always leaves us thinking and analyzing each line.

Which rappers are you referring to? And are you talking collaborating wise?

[BILI]

99-02 Eminem is the closest rapper that will ever came to being perfect.

[DarkSideOfEm]

99-02 Eminem is the closest rapper that will ever came to being perfect.

but maybe til '04

[biterph0bia]

99-02 Eminem is the closest rapper that will ever came to being perfect.

[Brood]

99-02 Eminem is the closest rapper that will ever came to being perfect.

[Alaine]

Agreed with Op. Eminem is the best.

[EminemBase]

Eminembase I agree with you, but at this point in Eminem's career there are some rappers that if you dissected all there lyrics and all the aspects of rap and compared them to Eminem right now it wouldn't be close who is better

Doesn't quite make sense still though.

BETTER? Better in what way - It's so vast and variable, there's so many elements to it all. You'd have to at least define what 'better' you mean. There's no such thing as just 'better' as they aren't... sprinters, it's not like you can just say X ran faster than Y: FACT.

The best you can do is compare similar lyricists who move in similar circles creatively and say who was stronger in which aspect here and there. In terms of just straight punchlines or intelligence, or interesting patterns etc. I'm sure some could be found to be more impressive atm.

But that's such a tiny aspect of it. All the guys that may say more biting 1-2's right now don't have a tenth of Em's personality or art of delivery. Not just his flow, his DELIVERY. His emphasis, his conversationalist naturalistic writing and emphasis.

Even when he's shitty lyrically, he has personality to spare. That's one thing most MCs never properly do. Learn how to put THEM into the microphone. Instead of just being a robotic lyrical carbon-copy of the next man, spitting similar ideas in similar ways.

There's so so much that makes Eminem - Eminem beyond just bland technical aspects that you can dissect and compare. That was always a large part of his game but beyond all of that, he's a poet and a great mind on the mic. Most good MCs just remain spitters.

Another point is Eminem's versatility. The amount of flows, styles, emotions and ideas he's conveyed throughout his career is staggering.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Eminembase I agree with you, but at this point in Eminem's career there are some rappers that if you dissected all there lyrics and all the aspects of rap and compared them to Eminem right now it wouldn't be close who is better

Doesn't quite make sense still though.

BETTER? Better in what way - It's so vast and variable, there's so many elements to it all. You'd have to at least define what 'better' you mean. There's no such thing as just 'better' as they aren't... sprinters, it's not like you can just say X ran faster than Y: FACT.

The best you can do is compare similar lyricists who move in similar circles creatively and say who was stronger in which aspect here and there. In terms of just straight punchlines or intelligence, or interesting patterns etc. I'm sure some could be found to be more impressive atm.

But that's such a tiny aspect of it. All the guys that may say more biting 1-2's right now don't have a tenth of Em's personality or art of delivery. Not just his flow, his DELIVERY. His emphasis, his conversationalist naturalistic writing and emphasis.

Even when he's shitty lyrically, he has personality to spare. That's one thing most MCs never properly do. Learn how to put THEM into the microphone. Instead of just being a robotic lyrical carbon-copy of the next man, spitting similar ideas in similar ways.

There's so so much that makes Eminem - Eminem beyond just bland technical aspects that you can dissect and compare. That was always a large part of his game but beyond all of that, he's a poet and a great mind on the mic. Most good MCs just remain spitters.

Another point is Eminem's versatility. The amount of flows, styles, emotions and ideas he's conveyed throughout his career is staggering.

[Kez]

[classthe_king]

Eminembase I agree with you, but at this point in Eminem's career there are some rappers that if you dissected all there lyrics and all the aspects of rap and compared them to Eminem right now it wouldn't be close who is better

Doesn't quite make sense still though.

BETTER? Better in what way - It's so vast and variable, there's so many elements to it all. You'd have to at least define what 'better' you mean. There's no such thing as just 'better' as they aren't... sprinters, it's not like you can just say X ran faster than Y: FACT.

The best you can do is compare similar lyricists who move in similar circles creatively and say who was stronger in which aspect here and there. In terms of just straight punchlines or intelligence, or interesting patterns etc. I'm sure some could be found to be more impressive atm.

But that's such a tiny aspect of it. All the guys that may say more biting 1-2's right now don't have a tenth of Em's personality or art of delivery. Not just his flow, his DELIVERY. His emphasis, his conversationalist naturalistic writing and emphasis.

Even when he's shitty lyrically, he has personality to spare. That's one thing most MCs never properly do. Learn how to put THEM into the microphone. Instead of just being a robotic lyrical carbon-copy of the next man, spitting similar ideas in similar ways.

There's so so much that makes Eminem - Eminem beyond just bland technical aspects that you can dissect and compare. That was always a large part of his game but beyond all of that, he's a poet and a great mind on the mic. Most good MCs just remain spitters.

Another point is Eminem's versatility. The amount of flows, styles, emotions and ideas he's conveyed throughout his career is staggering.

You're trying to get all technical about this but we both know when it comes down to it you could do it and right now we would find many people who are better. It's like basketball, "It''s not just all about points, player A is a scrappy player and will get a steal or a rebound when he needs it. He's also a solid defensive player and he makes people around him better. You can't compare the two players" But really you know one player is better than the others.