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Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby Static » Dec 28th, '10, 00:40

I wouldn't call it pop, but I get why some people would call it that. Personally my main issue with the album is the production. I don't like the beats, I can't really put my finger on it, but I find them a bit more "pop" than the beats on his older albums. I would love the album so much more if he let Dre produce it, or if he produced it himself. Or if he just stuck to beats a little more like his old ones. I feel like the Recovery beats have too much going on, and that they lack powerful drums. Take a listen to any instrumental Recovery song and compare it to Lose Yourself, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby RealSickLindley » Dec 28th, '10, 01:06

Lose Yourself was popular, so it was a pop song.
Stan was popular, so it was a pop song.

Are people getting the idea?
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby Master Chief » Dec 28th, '10, 01:11

RealSickLindley wrote:Lose Yourself was popular, so it was a pop song.
Stan was popular, so it was a pop song.

Are people getting the idea?

If you weren't being sarcastic then, know that Pop is a genre.
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Dec 28th, '10, 01:18

RealSickLindley wrote:Lose Yourself was popular, so it was a pop song.
Stan was popular, so it was a pop song.

Are people getting the idea?


Are you fucking kidding me? It's like Deja goddamn Vu, we've already had this argument. Pop is a GENRE, it USED to stand for popular music but now it's actually a genre. Think Justin Beiber, Lady Gaga, Madonna...MJ was pop

Eminem is hip hop

So...
Eminem is a rapper, so he makes hip hop music
Lady Gaga is a pop singer, and she makes POP MUSIC

Goddamn, people, get it through your fucking heads :facepalm
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby shadyboymez » Dec 28th, '10, 01:27

because of the song Love the Way You Lie ..

between the popularity of that song, and who listens to pop music ... eminem became all the little kids hero all over again .. good for him ?

i hope he doesn't continuously cater to the pop audience now. you got em back, time to spit what's really on your mind EM!
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby Swizz2012 » Dec 28th, '10, 01:33

Album is VERY pop lol...

Not Afraid = poppy
Won't Back Down = poppy
LTWYL = poppy
So Bad = poppy
No Love = poppy
25 To Life = poppy
W.T.P. = poppy

Along with various other chorus/hooks from other songs that would be right at home on a radio hit

That isn't necessarily a bad thing though, it's only bad if the material becomes dumbed down and defined by its poppiness, which isn't really the case with Recovery.
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby OMEGA » Dec 28th, '10, 01:54

RealSickLindley wrote:Pop means popular music..

Does no one get educated in genres of music anymore?


If that was true, then every single Eminem album is pop.
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby Master Chief » Dec 28th, '10, 01:55

Omega wrote:
RealSickLindley wrote:Pop means popular music..

Does no one get educated in genres of music anymore?


If that was true, then every single Eminem album is pop.

Especially, MMLP.

MMLP would be one of the most "pop" albums of all time.
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby BILI » Dec 28th, '10, 01:57

Some people in this thread :facepalm
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby VenomBlackViper » Dec 28th, '10, 02:17

Swizz2012 wrote:Album is VERY pop lol...

Not Afraid = poppy
Won't Back Down = poppy
LTWYL = poppy
So Bad = poppy
No Love = poppy
25 To Life = poppy
W.T.P. = poppy

Along with various other chorus/hooks from other songs that would be right at home on a radio hit

That isn't necessarily a bad thing though, it's only bad if the material becomes dumbed down and defined by its poppiness, which isn't really the case with Recovery.


So Bad & No Love as pop???? :facepalm
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby VenomBlackViper » Dec 28th, '10, 02:40

Miller1121 wrote:'cause people are upset that Eminem didnt rape or kill a ton of people.


That would be me.
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby mdemaz » Dec 28th, '10, 03:05

Oh not this again..Eminem is hip hop...
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Dec 28th, '10, 03:06

mdemaz wrote:Oh not this again..Eminem is hip hop...
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby kylenthat » Dec 28th, '10, 03:08

This is what makes Em's music so great imo. He lives, breathes, sleeps and shits hip hop. Like he's said before, it's his art, it's the only thing he feels he's good at, and he probably is the best rapper to have done it. But the thing about his music that is so well crafted and stands apart from EVERY other rapper is that he can combine the hardcore lyrical and technical aspects of rapping and sprinkle a catchy chorus in a singy song style in for the stupid fucking people that don't really listen to the words.

Plenty other rappers have tried it but none seem to have pulled it of with as much impact as Em has over and over again. All of his albums are 100% hip hop as a genre, but he crafts then well enough that some songs don't feel out of place in a pop chart and people that don't have a fucking clue about real hip hop will still enjoy them. That makes him a real artist, that he can broaden his art so that it can touch and influence a mass audience on different levels.

And besides, if you were smart enough to make a carrier out of the one thing you love most and make millions from it would you turn it down to stay 'true' to all the close minded fucks that think any rapper that branches out from the underground is a pop artist? I sure as shit know I wouldn't.
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Re: Why Do People Consider Recovery Pop ?

Postby OMEGA » Dec 28th, '10, 03:20

venomblackviper wrote:
Swizz2012 wrote:Album is VERY pop lol...

Not Afraid = poppy
Won't Back Down = poppy
LTWYL = poppy
So Bad = poppy
No Love = poppy
25 To Life = poppy
W.T.P. = poppy

Along with various other chorus/hooks from other songs that would be right at home on a radio hit

That isn't necessarily a bad thing though, it's only bad if the material becomes dumbed down and defined by its poppiness, which isn't really the case with Recovery.


So Bad & No Love as pop???? :facepalm


+ WBD and WTP pop? :facepalm :facepalm

I guess having a pop artist singing your hook = automatically pop song.
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