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Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby Skip2Malu52 » Dec 31st, '10, 20:36

MikeNUFC wrote:I'm not saying people can't like it, but it's not a good song or tribute.

Eminem didn't want people to hear it for a reason.

BawlTikki wrote:He doesn't have any emotion in the song? Are you fucking kidding me?

On some parts of the song, It sounds like he's about to cry. How can you not feel the emotion?


His voice is completely shot. He sounds like a zombie.

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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby Sofi » Dec 31st, '10, 20:45

BawlTikki wrote:Oh shut the fuck up.

Who gives a fuck about how good the rhymes are and how crazy the flow is and all that shit.

it's poetry. It's not a regular rap song.

Exactly.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby HereHere » Dec 31st, '10, 20:58

I like the song but I still don't think it should have been leaked. Em must be paranoid as fuck now about recording music now.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby dshady89 » Dec 31st, '10, 21:03

BILI wrote:
MikeNUFC wrote:I'm not saying people can't like it, but it's not a good song or tribute.

:laughing:
Song is prolly better then anything on Encore.Relapse has like 3 songs that are better and thats it.So its in top 5 Em songs from 04-09


PS:That voice over any accent and shouting.


¿So Difficult is prolly better than Yellow Brick Road, Spend Some Time, Like Toy Soldiers, etc?

LOL. COME ON SON.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby djonslaught » Dec 31st, '10, 23:12

Syllables is amazing and its from that time period
Once again its the kid yeah eat a dick up Pick up
The nuts boy lick up 'Till you hiccup
Sick motherfucker yeah
Sick mug Its a stick up
His middle finger Chica Chica
Hi my name is Chica Chica Chica Chica Chica
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby MikeNUFC » Dec 31st, '10, 23:20

Everyone missing my point.

I'm not saying multies are the only thing that make a good verse/song.

Not at all. Storytelling, imagery, good use of vocabulary, humour, internal rhyming, flow, delivery, concepts, interesting wordplay and multies are all part of it. Of course, I dont expect all of this in every verse but this song lacks pretty much all of these aspects.

Saddened that this has leaked. Eminem reminded of when he was in his darkest place.

Incredible that he managed to come out of the slump. He sounds like he's about to drop over dead on this.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby ChristinaE12 » Dec 31st, '10, 23:31

MikeNUFC wrote:Everyone missing my point.

I'm not saying multies are the only thing that make a good verse/song.

Not at all. Storytelling, imagery, good use of vocabulary, humour, internal rhyming, flow, delivery, concepts, interesting wordplay and multies are all part of it. Of course, I dont expect all of this in every verse but this song lacks pretty much all of these aspects.

Saddened that this has leaked. Eminem reminded of when he was in his darkest place.

Incredible that he managed to come out of the slump. He sounds like he's about to drop over dead on this.



Not to take away from what you are saying at all, cause really no one is wrong here.. (Note the bold) But I think this is the very reason many like this song. Cause of that fact alone. Cause it shows just how human Eminem is. How fucked up he was at one point in his life and now he's back on top the world again. It's unbelievable and awesome. I think that is pretty much the sole reason people like this track and rate it highly. I know it's why I do.

Yeah.. it does suck that it got leaked. I dont think many are saying otherwise. But we have it regardless now.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby Graphic » Dec 31st, '10, 23:34

Are you joking?

If you're referring to the hook of Syllables as "unintentional irony" then you're an idiot. It's not unintentional. The hook is done like that to represent exactly what Eminem says is idiotic in his verse. The same 4 words repeating over a "hot beat"...it's intentional hypocrisy to illustrate the point. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby 1TS OK4Y » Dec 31st, '10, 23:34

LOL difficult had better flow and lyrics than anything he's put out since recovery. fuck yes i would get it. hell even encore is better to listen to musically than the shit he's came out wtih lately
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby BawlTikki » Dec 31st, '10, 23:35

MikeNUFC wrote:Storytelling, imagery, good use of vocabulary, humour, internal rhyming, flow, delivery, concepts, interesting wordplay and multies are all part of it. Of course, I dont expect all of this in every verse but this song lacks pretty much all of these aspects.



Yes because Eminem has always been known for his good use of vocabulary right...?

:coffee:

And LOL @ wanting humor on a track that is supposed to be a tribute to his best friend....

Just take the track for what it is....Recited poetry.

Poetry is supposed to be a reflection of what's going on in your mind, your thoughts.

It's either written or spoken in a rhythmic manner and this song was perfectly reflecting Eminem's mind state at that particular time.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby MikeNUFC » Dec 31st, '10, 23:41

ChristinaE12 wrote:
MikeNUFC wrote:Everyone missing my point.

I'm not saying multies are the only thing that make a good verse/song.

Not at all. Storytelling, imagery, good use of vocabulary, humour, internal rhyming, flow, delivery, concepts, interesting wordplay and multies are all part of it. Of course, I dont expect all of this in every verse but this song lacks pretty much all of these aspects.

Saddened that this has leaked. Eminem reminded of when he was in his darkest place.

Incredible that he managed to come out of the slump. He sounds like he's about to drop over dead on this.



Not to take away from what you are saying at all, cause really no one is wrong here.. (Note the bold) But I think this is the very reason many like this song. Cause of that fact alone. Cause it shows just how human Eminem is. How fucked up he was at one point in his life and now he's back on top the world again. It's unbelievable and awesome. I think that is pretty much the sole reason people like this track and rate it highly. I know it's why I do.

Yeah.. it does suck that it got leaked. I dont think many are saying otherwise. But we have it regardless now.


I dont get why people would enjoy a song where someone is so fucked up. There's Rock Bottom and then there's this.

But hey, to each his own.

I shouldnt have put "Eminem reminded of when he was in his darkest place.". But Eminem would not have wanted other people to hear it, which is the fucked up part.

Graphic wrote:Are you joking?

If you're referring to the hook of Syllables as "unintentional irony" then you're an idiot. It's not unintentional. The hook is done like that to represent exactly what Eminem says is idiotic in his verse.

Doesn't work though.

Eminem's stuff around that time was AWFUL. Eminem WAS a bad rapper at the time - a bad lyricist so for him to be criticising rappers for being poor lyricists is hypocritical. He didnt realize he was so bad, that's why it's unintentional.

Listen to T2M - he basically admits this.

I understand the concept of the song. I get the chorus.

Stop trying make Eminem out to be some kind of superhuman. Even he'll admit he was a terrible rapper around this time.

BawlTikki wrote:Yes because Eminem has always been known for his good use of vocabulary right...?

Er, yes, unless you're an idiot. Just because he doesnt overcomplicate his work like Immortal Technique or Canibus doesnt mean he doesnt have a good use of vocab. His use of vocab is superb - he doesnt overcomplicate when he doesnt need to. He uses everyday lanaguage while still rhyming superbly.

BawlTikki wrote:And LOL @ wanting humor on a track that is supposed to be a tribute to his best friend....


I dont want humour - I was just using that as a general point.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby Graphic » Dec 31st, '10, 23:44

And how can you insult something like Difficult when it was something he recorded in his darkest time, but it's still listenable? According to almost everybody on this forum (with the exception of you), Difficult is what one would call a good song. To go about criticizing it by saying he doesn't tell stories well enough or doesn't use enough humor or his flow isn't impressive or there are no multis or whatever other complaint you might think of (this applies to more than one person in this thread, lol)...you have to remember the state he was in. Almost certainly, this song was written and recorded during the period of writer's block and depression that Em often describes on Recovery. I find this track extremely impressive coming from somebody who was at a disadvantage such as that one.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby Graphic » Dec 31st, '10, 23:46

MikeNUFC wrote:
Graphic wrote:Are you joking?

If you're referring to the hook of Syllables as "unintentional irony" then you're an idiot. It's not unintentional. The hook is done like that to represent exactly what Eminem says is idiotic in his verse.

Doesn't work though.

Eminem's stuff around that time was AWFUL. Eminem WAS a bad rapper at the time - a bad lyricist so for him to be criticising rappers for being poor lyricists is hypocritical. He didnt realize he was so bad, that's why it's unintentional.

Listen to T2M - he basically admits this.

I understand the concept of the song. I get the chorus.

Stop trying make Eminem out to be some kind of superhuman. Even he'll admit he was a terrible rapper around this time.


:facepalm No. Go look up the lyrics to the first verse of Syllables. He's criticizing the audience, not the rappers. He's not saying anything about himself or anybody else as a rapper, he's saying that no listeners pay attention to anything other than the beat and hook. He's not calling anybody a poor lyricist.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby biterph0bia » Dec 31st, '10, 23:47

BawlTikki wrote:
MikeNUFC wrote:Storytelling, imagery, good use of vocabulary, humour, internal rhyming, flow, delivery, concepts, interesting wordplay and multies are all part of it. Of course, I dont expect all of this in every verse but this song lacks pretty much all of these aspects.

And LOL @ wanting humor on a track that is supposed to be a tribute to his best friend....

That's not what he's saying :facepalm
He's saying those are what generally what makes up a good song, not that they're all required.
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Re: Why would you buy/leak Eminem songs from 2004-2007?

Postby BawlTikki » Dec 31st, '10, 23:49

LOL @ MikeNUFC ignoring all the significant points of my post.

Little Mikey is just a kid everyone....Don't take him seriously.
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