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Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Hiphopdane » May 24th, '11, 19:04

Dixie cups, toxins, boxes of oxipads Enough oxi-cotton to send a fucking ox to rehab...

Better beat, original concept, better rhyming, flow and general delivery... far better track. Unlike 25 to life, Eminem actually sounds incredibly hungry on this one.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » May 24th, '11, 19:06

Hiphopdane wrote:Dixie cups, toxins, boxes of oxipads Enough oxi-cotton to send a fucking ox to rehab...

Better beat, original concept, better rhyming, flow and general delivery... far better track. Unlike 25 to life, Eminem actually sounds incredibly hungry on this one.


There is no concept on Underground, it's literally about nothing except a bunch of random, stupid, over the top situations that don't even make sense...the rhyming IS probably better on Underground, in fact I'm pretty sure it is, but rhyming isn't everything. I'd rather him rap good with good lyrics than rap great with shitty lyrics.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby JasonOne99 » May 24th, '11, 19:10

Hiphopdane wrote:Dixie cups, toxins, boxes of oxipads Enough oxi-cotton to send a fucking ox to rehab...

Better beat, original concept :o , better rhyming, flow and general delivery... far better track. Unlike 25 to life, Eminem actually sounds incredibly hungry on this one.

I like this song but are you serious?
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby sully10x » May 24th, '11, 19:11

I like them both, but I feel like 25 to Life is obviously better.

Content wise, its miles ahead of Underground (which has no content whatsoever)
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby j04370859 » May 24th, '11, 19:13

Satire wrote:Really, even just a year ago when I used to read old comments on other forums whilst searching Google, old fans said they didn't think The Eminem Show 'felt like Eminem' and that he was 'going pop/mainstream' (lolz). A year ago people reacted to Relapse like "Wtf, what is he doing with that voice? This isn't Eminem".

If he makes as big as a jump as he's been doing from MMLP onward (bar Encore), no new Eminem album will "feel like Eminem".

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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby the real slim shady » May 24th, '11, 19:13

theyre completely different songs, but 25 to life is the best. 25 to life is one of those songs that makes me think about stuff when i listen to it, it has emotion and a meaning. Underground is the opposite, it i one of those eminem songs that you listen to when you just want to listen to something. Its good as a rap, but not necessarily a good rap.

(^ that made sense in my head :unsure: )
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Hiphopdane » May 24th, '11, 19:14

Being underground is the whole concept. That is why he spits so many different type of lines (there is a lyrical direction of the song though), has so obvious focus on rhymes, shows off his vocab etc. He wants to impress people, just like every underground rapper striving for success wants to.

I read some years ago that he always wants the last track on every album to sum up the whole album and that is exactly what Underground does. When he was a drug addict, he was "under the ground" as in forgotten and gone.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » May 24th, '11, 19:14

sully10x wrote:I like them both, but I feel like 25 to Life is obviously better.

Content wise, its miles ahead of Underground (which has no content whatsoever)


Exactly, Undergound has ZERO fucking content (and I don't hate the track), people are saying it has great lyricism, it doesn't. 25 To Life is far superior in content and lyricism, the rhymes might be great on Underground, but it's not hard to rhyme about virtually nothing. Can't believe anyone would even call 25 To Life a bad song, it's far from it. Not the best rhymes, but great content and lyricism. Love the flow too.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby DƎRDYPK » May 24th, '11, 19:15

Underground

I'm tired of illuminati songs like 25 to life
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby IrishShady » May 24th, '11, 19:21

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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Chet Starr » May 24th, '11, 19:22

Underground, cause
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » May 24th, '11, 19:25

Hiphopdane wrote:Being underground is the whole concept. That is why he spits so many different type of lines (there is a lyrical direction of the song though), has so obvious focus on rhymes, shows off his vocab etc.

I read some years ago that he always wants the last track on every album to sum up the whole album and that is exactly what Underground does. When he was a drug addict, he was "under the ground" as in forgotten and gone.


I realize that the song itself was basically an ode to the Hip Hop Shop days and that it was just straight spitting for the sake of spitting, but the lyrics themselves just don't make sense. The casual Eminem fan would listen to the track, feel pumped because of how it sounds and his delivery, but they'll be like "wtf is up with these lyrics?"

I'm sorry, I just feel as a song 25 To Life is better. I connect with it (tbh, if any of you can't relate to some of these lyrics, you've never been in a bad relationship). I could argue that on 25 To Life, even though it's about being married to hip hop, I can still listen to the track and apply it to myself, and that's why I love it. There are reasons, if you wanna just go off of rhyming and the beat, then yeah, Underground would definitely take this. But, I consider other factors and what's important to me, in my music. I like content I can relate to, not content about a prosthetic arm crushing a hard taco, which is more cringe-worthy IMO than most of the lines on Recovery...

To each his own, really though, I've argued for this song ever since I got online today, and I'm tired of it. I guess I'm really the only one (who's actually arguing) who values content over rhymes, in this case...
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby christalgurl » May 24th, '11, 19:35

25 to Life for me. I like it way better. Underground's a good song and it does have better rhyming and that sort of thing, but I enjoy 25 to Life tons more.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby momentsgolden » May 24th, '11, 19:38

xxTrigger1989xx wrote:
sully10x wrote:I like them both, but I feel like 25 to Life is obviously better.

Content wise, its miles ahead of Underground (which has no content whatsoever)


Exactly, Undergound has ZERO fucking content (and I don't hate the track), people are saying it has great lyricism, it doesn't. 25 To Life is far superior in content and lyricism, the rhymes might be great on Underground, but it's not hard to rhyme about virtually nothing. Can't believe anyone would even call 25 To Life a bad song, it's far from it. Not the best rhymes, but great content and lyricism. Love the flow too.


When i first heard underground i understood the whole concept instantly. Its got LOADS of sub-plots within the major frame of going back to being underground. Like he did with the 8 mile freestyles- make loads of "did he say that?" lines and then throw in some content. Being drugged up, explaining his affiliation with psychotic killers, introducing himself to the game etc.Underground is to Relapse and Recovery what My Name Is Is to SSLP. Plus that Ken Kaniff skit- classic shady!
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » May 24th, '11, 19:52

Underground is the better song technically,i dont give a fuck if you can connect to the song,if you think the concept is weird and all,thats pure wrong,underground had a lot of subject matter going from the theme of telling a murder story and metaphorically talking about being drugged up,some great shock value vintage Eminem punchlines,rhyming is very impressive and the flow has that GOING IN feel.

just a better track,oh and trigger chill nikka why u care so much
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