SoldierShady wrote:EminemBase wrote:SoldierShady wrote:The Apple IS poorly written. But it DOES have the Eminem-feel to it
Why is it poorly written?
I'm not saying whether I agree or not - I just think a lot of people jump on the bandwagon with that era and 'assume' everything was badly written when, when you actually examine it - some of the verses are better structured than some of his shit now lmao.
What do you notice about the lyricism that is done poorly?
I'm not jumping on the bandwagon.
Did HEAR the way he said '....and by the way that picture is one of my rela-tives.' Seemed kind of out place...rhyme wise at least. No multies that stand out (not implying that multies are everything) as well as simple rhymes like 'cut in the gut' and 'claim to BE a G...' or something like that. I'unno, it's not a horrendous song, it's just badly written.
I didn't say you were. I said 'a lot of people' do.
And, that didn't sound out of place to me. One thing he always gets... as far as I can hear, almost perfect and always has - is timing. His delivery and pacing, and the delivery of bars in time always sounds entirely dead-on rhythm wise to me.
Where as, even Nas or every other rapper I've ever heard always has at least the odd line out of place. Or, they try and rush and fit a word in thus making it... out of time.
But, he broke the word up there to make the rhythm work, sounds right to my ears.
As for the writing, you're really only focusing on the final verse there, which... is pretty irrelevant yeah and I hate it when he does that. He often partially ruins songs for me actually by doing that - mentioning irrelevant shit or issues which won't be timeless and will just sound corny down the line.
But, if you take the first verse for example...
Did I spit too soon? should I of spoon fed 'em it?
But I was just so eager to prove I was even worth
Being in the same league or the room with
Of the people of whom I was in
Every now and then I look up like I was seeking approval
Was it because of the pigment of my skin
Or was it a figment of my imagination
Now... I'm not gonna pretend to be the best mutli / rhyme highlighter on this site - other here do it much better than me. I just don't regularly do that - I do notice them and value them, and I value structure, a lot but, I don't regularly count or lay them out.
But, all those words highlighted there either rhyme, or half rhyme or sound alike due to his annunciation in some way... I mean, it seems like a fair amount of okay jotted rhyming to me.
And, obviously I'm not saying it's up there with his prime material. but I don't see how that is badly written. Not his best, sure. Bad for Eminem? Maybe. But I think people over-exaggerate how 'poorly' written this stuff is sometimes.
Again, when you compare that to say the structure of "Brain Damage" it's laughable. The Slim Shady multies and structure are so tight and consistent, it's like magic. But, again, I wouldn't say "The Apple" is BADLY written just because it's not up there with his masterwork... It's still good writing, in my opinion. Doesn't sound bad anyway. But, his delivery always elevates it.
