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Last Verse of "Going Through Changes"...

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Re: Last Verse of "Going Through Changes"...

Postby cityfan31 » Jan 6th, '12, 16:48

Blu wrote:
cityfan31 wrote:^That's one way of looking at things.

I think there's another perspective you can have.

When Relapse came out it divided everyone - even those in on this forum, his 'harcore' fans - were split down the middle. Myself, I was bemused when We Made You came out, confused when 3AM came out and I remember being overjoyed when Insane leaked because it was undeniably 'Eminem'. Over time I learned to love and appreciate the album as I realised that it being different didn't make it bad.

Lets remember that the songs that stood out for the majority on Relapse were Deja Vu, Beautiful and Underground. Why? Because the songs addressed some real issues, they had poignance and in Underground's case, it had his old sound.

Lets also remember the reception that Forever got, followed by Drop The World. Those were almost unanimously seen as a huge step in the right direction.

So at this point, Em had a decision to make. Carry on, release Relapse 2 as he had anticipated or try and see if there was another album he could make. For me, his motives were an acceptance that while Relapse had its place, Relapse 2 would have been overkill. He HAD done the accents to death. He also wanted to prove to himself, and the critics that he could make a hit record, that he could climb back to the top and finally, that he could make music that you'd want to play 1000 times over.

Songs like GTC, Not Afraid (corny or not), 25 to life, Cindarella Man and Space Bound have something about them that elevates them. Yes, you might love songs on Relapse for their technical skill and for the beats, but Em put it like this: once you've heard 3AM once, you've got the joke.

I don't see him listening to his fans as a cowardly compromise of his principles, I see that as a strength and just him developing as an artist. I don't buy this pressure from Interscope either on the basis of that blatantly obvious prediction. Eminem is a big enough artist to not have to withstand that kind of pressure. Even if there was input from Interscope, the result was a brilliant album that brings so much more to the table than Relapse 2 would have (as just an extension on Relapse).

So I say to you, don't lose respect for Em for simply trying to give the fans and the world the album they were screaming out for. And don't tell me that Em made music he didn't like on Recovery because he showed so much hunger and passion that I don't believe is fake.

Post is so last year.. but it is extremely well thought out. :y:


I was procrastinating like mad obviously. Actually, it was in my summer holiday so that's OK :coffee:
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Re: Last Verse of "Going Through Changes"...

Postby Emadyville » Jan 7th, '12, 00:49

DanWS wrote:Going Through Changes is probably the closest I've heard him come to 2002-2003 Em, which I consider prime Em (even though I feel MMLP is his best ever work I don't feel he'd hit his musical peak yet). For me, the lack of emotional content he has put out since GTC is one of the factors in his decline post-Recovery.

p.s. Joe Budden is the only other artist to me that is as good as Eminem as writing emotional lyrics and expressing himself on such genuine life issues so realistically and convincingly.


I agree with every single point you mind except the opinion based "best ever work" as I feel TES is his. That budden thing too is spot on :y:
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Re: Last Verse of "Going Through Changes"...

Postby Innovation » Jan 7th, '12, 02:03

cityfan31 wrote:Actually, it was in my summer holiday so that's OK :coffee:


Not bad for a City supporter. :happy:
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