crooked i vs eminem

[LEVITIKUZ]

Joey destroyed Em because Joes verse was way better than Ems. Simple as that.

[Trimss]

Joey released his verse, and it definitely is better than em's..

I know he released his verse, but it's not on the song.

It being "better than Em's" is subjective. Em has a great verse, but a lot of people on here cry at the sound of something different. Em uses a little bit of a choppy flow, so what? That's the biggest complaint I see about the verse, and it's like grasping at straws because it's not even bad.

Nah I like Eminem's verse. Did I say something bad about it?

[Verse 3: Joe Budden]
I never wanted a chain that was encrusted
I wanted to be respected amongst my peers and to be trust
Wanted not to be complacent though okay with my regression
I was banking hip hop would do away with my depression
I wanted to be understood but they never got my deposition
I never wanted attention, but I lusted recognition
Wanted peace with my child's mom wanted to be a better dad
Not as a person wanted to give that nigga choices I never had
Which honestly kept me alive cause in order for me to give
I needed not to be suicidal though it was killing me just to live
Wanted to make mother cry and choke her up cause she proud
Wanted to marry my dreams so I cheated on fear broke up with my doubts
So I got no choice but to succeed and show music that I'm capable
She the one I'm grateful to and Id hate for her to think that I'm unfaithful too
If she did her soul would bleed, but they raised another breed in Our House

This .. Is just better.

[King Lance]

Joey destroyed Em because Joes verse was way better than Ems. Simple as that.

imo, Eminem's verse was better in every way possible and I thought it was impossible to think otherwise... I guess I was wrong but in the end, it's all about subjectivity

[Trimss]

Joey's structure and content is a lot better. And anyone who doesn't agree with this seriously has to get his ear checked.. I mean I liked Em's verse a lot, but Joe's verse is CLASSIC.

And I'm not even that much of a Budden stan.. But his verse is better. It's more "on topic", and it's just better. I don't know how anyone could disagree lol. It's more heartfelt and meaningful.

[LEVITIKUZ]

Joey destroyed Em because I said so, and have nothing to back up my point. Simple as that.

Okay.

I'm not saying Ems verse was bad just Joeys was better. I just felt lyrically Joes was the best. I also felt it was deeper. Ems verse felt more energetic than Joeys.

[LEVITIKUZ]

Joeys verse should have been. I don't get why Yela wasn't also on the track. Sure it could be overkill having Em, the 4 Slaughters and Yela but if you think about it. Em consigned SH, he's producing Skylars album. They should have added Yela to the track also to have the whole 2.0 house.

[Trimss]

^ So are you implying that Royce has a better verse than Joe because he's on the song? No. Eminem didn't want Joe on the song, he removed his verse to rap his own. That's why he isn't on the song.

Joe's verse is a lot better than Royce's or Joell's in that song man. It's not on the song because Eminem didn't want it to be. Whatever, it's about opinions. You say Joe Budden sounds the same on every song YET you listen to Bizarre (lol sorry for bringing that again) who, in terms of sounding the same in every song, beats every record. You know? The voice/delivery is subjective.

However, Joe's content and flow were better than Eminem's. And that is not subjective.

[LEVITIKUZ]

I don't get that Yela reference. Dres stamping me now I'm stamping Yelawolf. Yela released 3 projects this year and Em really hasn't helped him with it. Em needs to be more involved with Yela. Yela is going back to his Trunk Muzik flow which was the flow that got him signed and impressed Em. Yela needs to have Em on his Trunk Muzik Returns mixtape without a doubt.

[LEVITIKUZ]

Crook has destroyed Em on a couple tracks but I must say Joe Budden>Eminem. Go listen to Our House. Joey destroys Em and everybody.

I honestly don't think Crooked destroyed Em on anything.

"Session One"...well, no. Not in my eyes.
"2.0 Boys"...Crooked's verse is a complete blur to me, it's the most forgettable verse on the track
"Loud Noises"...well, same as with 2.0 Boys, except it's less forgettable.
"Our House"...debateable. But yeah, if anyone came close to "destroying" Em, it would be Joey. I put Em & Joe at the same level for that song.

Am I the only one who thinks that Yela had the best verse on 2.0 Boys? I listen to that song so many times and the only one I remember is Yela's.

[Trimss]

I think Yela had the best verse in 2.0 Boys, definitely killed everyone else. On Loud Noises, Joell Ortiz took it honestly. Our House (without Budden) was a tie between Crooked and Eminem I'd say.

Session One.. I actually liked Em's verse and don't remember any other verse lol.

[King Lance]

talking about yela...

I now have another Yela's song I rly like damn Game feat. Yelawolf - Rough !

[Trimss]

It's your loss Geno lol. You're missing out one of the best right now.

[Trimss]

Just one last thing.. Flow isn't subjective. And structure either. Like you can't tell me that Bizarre's flow is better than Eminem's because it's not true. Here it's the same.

You have a choppy experimentive flow (that I don't mind, again.) and you have a clean as fuck flow on Budden's side. Anyway. Peace.

[LEVITIKUZ]

^ So are you implying that Royce has a better verse than Joe because he's on the song? No. Eminem didn't want Joe on the song, he removed his verse to rap his own. That's why he isn't on the song.

Joe's verse is a lot better than Royce's or Joell's in that song man. It's not on the song because Eminem didn't want it to be. Whatever, it's about opinions. You say Joe Budden sounds the same on every song YET you listen to Bizarre (lol sorry for bringing that again) who, in terms of sounding the same in every song, beats every record. You know? The voice/delivery is subjective.

However, Joe's content and flow were better than Eminem's. And that is not subjective.

Man, pretty much everything about music is subjective. There's not one thing (flow, content, beat) that is definitively better than another. It's about personal taste. You said "it's about opinions" when talking about which verses are better before going on to say "content and flow are not subjective". Pretty contradicting. If they're not subjective then how is it up to an opinion on which verse is better? Those things make up a big part of forming a good verse. One should just be better by your logic, but it's not, because it's subjective.

It doesn't matter much though, because we're not gonna change our views. You're a Budden fan, I'm not. He's boring as hell. He's so boring to the point that he could write the best verse of all time and I wouldn't notice because his voice turns me off. Don't get him going on fast flows either because he ends up sounding slurred. He's just a mess to me.

Really? On "Furiously Dangerous" I think he had the best verse, his fast flow sounded fucking awesome.

Love Furiously Dangerous. I loved where Joeys verse was put. Ludas was good and felt like he was a hype man to SH. Joey came out on fire.

[LEVITIKUZ]

I don't get that Yela reference. Dres stamping me now I'm stamping Yelawolf. Yela released 3 projects this year and Em really hasn't helped him with it. Em needs to be more involved with Yela. Yela is going back to his Trunk Muzik flow which was the flow that got him signed and impressed Em. Yela needs to have Em on his Trunk Muzik Returns mixtape without a doubt.

Em will never be on a mixtape. The only reason Em was on D12's and B.o.B's mixtapes is because the songs that were on them were previously released. Jimmy or Paul won't let Em be on a mixtape, they probably tell him to wait for the artist's album to come out before he got on a track with them.

Yea but Em claims that he is to Yela what Em is to Dre. Dre consigned everything Em has done except Hell: The Sequel. I think if Yela asked Em, Em would do it. Em released 2.0 Boys for free.