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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby EminemBase » Apr 8th, '10, 18:52

Kez wrote:He's not intelligent by academic definition, but you couldn't make the music he makes without brainpower.


I disagree. I think he is intelligent by definition.

People assume intelligence = formal qualification. Intelligence just means you have the capacity to comprehend and reason to a high degree. Which he certainly does.

"But that ain't the case, see it's a matter of taste - We as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they say he is"

The way he does things like this. Compounds multiple viewpoints about himself or issues into small poetic lines. The way he seamlessly slips in and out of 1st and 3rd person, criticizes himself, ironically, the way he can just flow out effortless zeitgeist lyricism.

"If I could capture the rage of today's youth and swallow it, crush the glass with my bear hands and swallow it - And spit it back in the faces of you racists and hypocrites who think the same shit but don't say shit"

Beautiful metaphorical language. Used so effectively. Un-intelligent people cannot write like that.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby EminemBase » Apr 8th, '10, 18:53

Emadyville wrote:No, I agree. For him though, I think he is intelligent with words and everything that goes into what he does, which I mean no one can disagree with. I also agree that he prolly didn't care much or put in effort, but most likely because he did so bad and didn't understand things. I think it more him not applying himself, I believe he could have graduated hs in 4 years.


Well yeah. I think people are just taking cliche' topics and subjects and thinking because he's not knowledgable on them that means he isn't intelligent.

You can see quite clearly, from one line of his lyricism that he's tremendously intelligent.

Anybody that can process ideas and re-create at the level he does is very very intelligent.

Being intelligent is about the way you think. Not just what you happen to know. The way you process information and reason with it. And he's been two steps ahead of society since day one. That's why on immediate impact he was misunderstood, like almost all modern geniuses.

It took society about three years just to catch up with him and agree he was a talented lyricist. At first they could only see the attitude and subversion. Took him winning an Oscar to go "oh okay, yeah maybe". Obviously not the intelligent of society. But the big bell-curve.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Apr 8th, '10, 19:18

In certain ways. He's just like us all: A genius for some things, an idiot for others.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby dR3 » Apr 8th, '10, 19:57

He's not stupid. People just don't give him enough credit.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby Kevin Paul » Apr 8th, '10, 20:04

No question of course he is.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby embm » Apr 8th, '10, 21:21

hel ya :flutter:
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby petey » Apr 8th, '10, 23:16

Hes a lyrical genious. When it comes to book smarts, not so much. Personally, I have a hard time sitting down for long periods of time and focusing on one task. I think Em is like that too. Its not that hes stupid, he prolly just has a hard time doing something he doesnt enjoy. You can be smart in different ways. Some of the more intelligent people ive come across were at the same time the dumbest, if you know what I mean.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby petey » Apr 8th, '10, 23:29

kamilniewulis wrote:i have audio interviews on my ipod saying he understood shit but just skipped

might have been the M.E interview, not sure


Yea ive heard alot of interviews where he says he skipped, I think I read it in one of his books too. Im sure if he actually sat down and tried to understand the content, he would do fine. I dont think the overwhelming majority of people would fail the ninth grade, for example, if they attended the class and did the work, unless there was something really really wrong with you.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby embm » Apr 8th, '10, 23:47

^^ ya he skiped scol

wen u do tat u fail even though u get the shit
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby X'ed Up » Apr 9th, '10, 00:09

LMAO at people saying Eminem is smart. He's not stupid at all though. He's just an average thinking person, but lyrically and in the genre of rap Eminem is a genius.

The only smart by definition rapper will always be Tupac Shakur. Maybe I'm missing someone but i don't wanna brainstorm right now.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby EminemBase » Apr 9th, '10, 00:21

X'ed Up wrote:LMAO at people saying Eminem is smart. He's not stupid at all though. He's just an average thinking person, but lyrically and in the genre of rap Eminem is a genius.

The only smart by definition rapper will always be Tupac Shakur. Maybe I'm missing someone but i don't wanna brainstorm right now.


No Eminem is smart in general.

In the WAY he thinks. True intelligence is down to the way you think. The way you process and reason with ideas.

It's not like lyricism is a separate thing from his actual intelligence, he's exercising his intelligence through it. He couldn't of written 90% of his lyrics without being very very intelligent. And again, the way he chooses to word things etc.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby blitches » Apr 9th, '10, 05:06

i think on the business side of the record industry, he isnt very intelligent at all, which is why he has paul rosenberg there to handle his shit and pretty much run shady records
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby Shadysapathy » Apr 9th, '10, 06:41

He seemed not very intelligent, especially when you watch his interviews.
But yeah I agree lyrically he´s definitely a genius.
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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 9th, '10, 08:10

Coleon wrote:
kamilniewulis wrote:if you didn't have to be smart to make good music you'd be making good sounding music too, coleon


I'm pretty sure I'm smarter than Eminem. Intellectually he isn't a juggernaut. He's just a great rapper, not a scholar.


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Re: Do you think Eminem is intelligent?

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 9th, '10, 08:12

LOL, think about the implications of this thread.

People here who say he ISN'T SMART...yet listen to him. They're listening to a guy they think is stupid...what does that say about them?

Anyway, anyone who says Eminem isn't intelligent is a dipshit of epic proportions...and doesn't understand what "intelligent" even means.

No one with his grasp of the English language and his ability to draw can ever be called "unintelligent."
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