Recovery is no better than Relapse

[Emadyville]

damn i gotta take a shit, but when i'm done i'm gunna come back to this thread show you what songs should be compared against...

I mean 3am and space bound

[CLV22798]

damn i gotta take a shit, but when i'm done i'm gunna come back to this thread show you what songs should be compared against...

I mean 3am and space bound

Well, both songs are completely different. But remember, Relapse and Recovery are completely different albums. I have more than 5 favorite Recovery songs but I don't really like more than 5 songs on Relapse. So, I just put my favorite 5 against each other in random order.

[Good For Nothing]

damn i gotta take a shit, but when i'm done i'm gunna come back to this thread show you what songs should be compared against...

I mean 3am and space bound

Longest shit ever.

[Rindain]

Not Afraid is light years better than We Made You. We Made You is just about as embarrassing as the worst stuff from Encore.

There's a reason why Not Afraid has absolutely killed We Made You in terms of Billboard chart success, downloads, and Youtube views.

Of course I get your point that success does't automatically equal quality, but you can't deny that We Made You is an embarrassing attempt to replicate his first three hit first singles, complete with fart sounds, awkward fast flow, outdated pop culture references, and a lame hook.

Not Afraid has an emotional core to it, and even the puns you may consider wack are merely average at worst.

If it's not due to quality, why then is Not Afraid so much more successful than We Made You?

[slimsoxshady]

I'm not gonna provide any analysis but here's my honest ranking of tracks if you wanna rank em in order like that:


Cold Wind Blows vs. 3 A.M.

Talkin To Myself vs. My Mom

On Fire vs. Insane

Wont Back Down vs. Bagpipes from Baghdad

W.T.P. vs. Hello

Going Through Changes vs. Same Song and Dance

Not Afraid vs. We Made You

Seduction vs. Medicine Ball

No Love vs. Stay Wide Awake (TIE)

Space Bound vs. Old Times Sake

Must Be the Ganja vs. Cinderella Man (TIE)

25 to Life vs. Deja Vu (TIE)

So Bad vs. Beautiful

Almost Famous vs. ________

Love the Way You Lie vs. Crack a Bottle

You're Never Over vs. Underground

i ignored the Untitled track, and I have the score at:
Recovery - 9
Relapse - 4

i thought i was very fair

[buffalo bill]

Not Afraid has an emotional core to it, and even the puns you may consider wack are merely average at worst.

If it's not due to quality, why then is Not Afraid so much more successful than We Made You?

Because it "has an emotional core to it.." and because he is ass kissing the fans in it. Corny shit sells.

And yes, most of the puns are wack too. Again, bad lyrics doesn't necessarily make a song less popular, which is pretty obvious simply by looking at any top list. But they do make a song worse. Especially in a genre where lyrics actually matter.

I don't think I have actually said Not Afraid isn't better.. sorry, less bad. I don't know and don't care much. I do know Eminem has an amazing talent when it comes to putting out sub-par first singles

[Emadyville]

damn i gotta take a shit, but when i'm done i'm gunna come back to this thread show you what songs should be compared against...

I mean 3am and space bound

Longest shit ever.

Well I got back and clean up spam in one mics topic

As far as comparing songs based on content, I feel like the only songs that really can be compared would be:

CAB and WTP
...because they are "party" or "club" type songs. Even still em has one verse and a hook vs an entire song, so that's not that strong there.

Deja Vu vs Talkin 2 Myself or Going Through Changes
...I think the better would be vs GTC, and is a pretty decent comparable song.

We Made You vs Untitled
...possibly because of trying to be random/funny, even still pretty weak.

Must Be the Ganja vs Seduction
...Pretty weak, only reason I'd suggest it is because they both are full songs by em with solid concepts, though the concepts don't match up at all, and the fact that they have similar feels with beats.

Underground vs Almost Famous
...Kind of weak, but both have similar deliveries, and subjects that are somewhat random, though AF does follow a concept that he sticks with in some ways with each verse.

Stay Wide Awake vs Cold Wind Blows
...Again, weak. I'd suggest because they both have em being quite vulgar, both are structured similar, but again subject matter and flow are much different.

No Love ve Old Times Sake
...completely off, only similarity is having one feature for a collab.

That's the best I can do, and as I said with most are weak, trying to do this really showed me how different these albums are

[Good For Nothing]

I'm not gonna provide any analysis but here's my honest ranking of tracks if you wanna rank em in order like that:


Cold Wind Blows vs. 3 A.M.

Talkin To Myself vs. My Mom

On Fire vs. Insane

Wont Back Down vs. Bagpipes from Baghdad

W.T.P. vs. Hello

Going Through Changes vs. Same Song and Dance

Not Afraid vs. We Made You

Seduction vs. Medicine Ball

No Love vs. Stay Wide Awake (TIE)

Space Bound vs. Old Times Sake

Must Be the Ganja vs. Cinderella Man (TIE)

25 to Life vs. Deja Vu (TIE)

So Bad vs. Beautiful

Almost Famous vs. ________

Love the Way You Lie vs. Crack a Bottle

You're Never Over vs. Underground

i ignored the Untitled track, and I have the score at:
Recovery - 9
Relapse - 4

i thought i was very fair

What are your opinions on

session 1 vs my darling
and
CWYWF vs Ridaz

[Emadyville]

Dumbass thread creator lost all credibility when he said Beautiful > So Bad.

Lmao @ "the battle of the kill people songs." He doesn't kill anyone in Cold Wind Blows.

3AM, despite its decent rhyming, is the worst example of the accent. Easily the accent at its most annoying. That fucking chorus is a nightmare.

Well I'll first say the first comparison he made is opinion, so you can't discredit based on that I feel.

And secondly, I think 3am is a great example of how the accent works and doesn't work. I think that song displayed perfectly because his accent can work at times (the verses) but at other times ruins it (the chorus). Which is why I feel the accent was debated so much. Some songs it's alright, others it isn't, and 3am was an example where it worked and didn't work in the same song.

Just my thoughts

[buffalo bill]

Dumbass thread creator lost all credibility when he said Beautiful > So Bad.

Nah, it's true. Beautiful isn't a masterpiece, but So Bad is just boring.

[slimsoxshady]

I'm not gonna provide any analysis but here's my honest ranking of tracks if you wanna rank em in order like that:


Cold Wind Blows vs. 3 A.M.

Talkin To Myself vs. My Mom

On Fire vs. Insane

Wont Back Down vs. Bagpipes from Baghdad

W.T.P. vs. Hello

Going Through Changes vs. Same Song and Dance

Not Afraid vs. We Made You

Seduction vs. Medicine Ball

No Love vs. Stay Wide Awake (TIE)

Space Bound vs. Old Times Sake

Must Be the Ganja vs. Cinderella Man (TIE)

25 to Life vs. Deja Vu (TIE)

So Bad vs. Beautiful

Almost Famous vs. ________

Love the Way You Lie vs. Crack a Bottle

You're Never Over vs. Underground

i ignored the Untitled track, and I have the score at:
Recovery - 9
Relapse - 4

i thought i was very fair

What are your opinions on

session 1 vs my darling
and
CWYWF vs Ridaz

so that makes it:
Recovery - 9
Relapse - 6

[Emadyville]

damn i spent all that time on my comparing songs, and you all just ignored it

[CLV22798]

damn i gotta take a shit, but when i'm done i'm gunna come back to this thread show you what songs should be compared against...

I mean 3am and space bound

Longest shit ever.

Well I got back and clean up spam in one mics topic

As far as comparing songs based on content, I feel like the only songs that really can be compared would be:

CAB and WTP
...because they are "party" or "club" type songs. Even still em has one verse and a hook vs an entire song, so that's not that strong there.

Deja Vu vs Talkin 2 Myself or Going Through Changes
...I think the better would be vs GTC, and is a pretty decent comparable song.

We Made You vs Untitled
...possibly because of trying to be random/funny, even still pretty weak.

Must Be the Ganja vs Seduction
...Pretty weak, only reason I'd suggest it is because they both are full songs by em with solid concepts, though the concepts don't match up at all, and the fact that they have similar feels with beats.

Underground vs Almost Famous
...Kind of weak, but both have similar deliveries, and subjects that are somewhat random, though AF does follow a concept that he sticks with in some ways with each verse.

Stay Wide Awake vs Cold Wind Blows
...Again, weak. I'd suggest because they both have em being quite vulgar, both are structured similar, but again subject matter and flow are much different.

No Love ve Old Times Sake
...completely off, only similarity is having one feature for a collab.

That's the best I can do, and as I said with most are weak, trying to do this really showed me how different these albums are

I don't like these comparisons because your comparing some crappy songs against each other. It should be the best from both albums, even if the content of the songs are completely different. It should just be for which tracks u like the best overall. and that's why I think Recovery dominates Relapse and is Em's best album period.

[Emadyville]

^^^ but that's my point, if you aren't comparing them based on content, style, concept, etc. it's only opinion anyway, so there is no point in comparing them then right?

If you're gunna compare sky diving and reading a book you're just gunna say whats better is what you enjoy more.

If you're comparing two similar songs you have a breakdown then of all the aspects (hook, flow, delivery, lyrics, rhymes, etc) and are then making an actual comparison.

But maybe I'm the only one who feels this way

[Emadyville]

^^^ but that's my point, if you aren't comparing them based on content, style, concept, etc. it's only opinion anyway, so there is no point in comparing them then right?

If you're gunna compare sky diving and reading a book you're just gunna say whats better is what you enjoy more.

If you're comparing two similar songs you have a breakdown then of all the aspects (hook, flow, delivery, lyrics, rhymes, etc) and are then making an actual comparison.

But maybe I'm the only one who feels this way

Nope, I agree with this.

Finally

Now I wish someone would try and compare the songs I felt had validity (tho mostly weak) to be compared from both albums, since that's what this threads about I think