Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

[VenomBlackViper]

Inb4everyone has caps from the video as their avys.

[EminemBase]

Not saying I believe it is a metaphor for drugs, but some things do line up. Here's what I thought:

-The drugs were there when he was at his lowest point, alone, (loss of Proof). That is when he seriously started abusing them and started to get fucked off them.

-The girl picks him up when he is alone.

-He realizes slowly that he is addicted to drugs, and they can kill him.

-He sees signs and slowly realizes that the girl is dangerous and can hurt him. (Used hurt instead of kill to go with the relationship thing, but you get the idea.)

-Drugs killed him, but really, can you blame it on the drugs? Nope, drug woman disappears and Em is the one at fault, because really its not the drugs, it was him abusing the drugs. His fault, so he holds the gun.

-(kind of a stretch) Coffee cup overflowing, drug overdosing.

-He gets a second chance in life. Undoubtedly he is going to run into the drugs, alcohol, and heroin again, so drug lady returns. He will be placed in the same situation of pressure, and now, it is up to him to decide what he wants to do in round two.

I'm sorry man, not gonna insult you or anything but, I think that's silly lmao.

I used to try and concoct these theories for Recovery songs when it came out until I realized it's all a lot simpler, Em does not think like this. He's not that contrived or complex with ideas. He wouldn't layer metaphor upon metaphor and have a female and the situation all be symbols for addiction etc. lmao.

It's simple - it's a relationship song where he thinks his girlfriend is cheating, finds out that she is, so then kills her. And then kills himself out of guilt (hence looking at his hands in disbelief at what he's just done, to the woman he loved).

And there is no other reason to think it's anything else. He's never layered metaphors and symbolism to the degree you're suggesting before, and the song / video is what you see / what you get. There is no evidence or reason to think it's anything other than it seems.

People are just wishful and want to make Em's fairly simple music a lot more complex than it is now. To give him more credit lmao. But anything outside of its face-value is speculation / imaginary.

Isn't interpreting music always us speculating we are never 100% sure that the song in question is what we make it out to be unless the artist himself states what the song is about. Take The Beatles' Fool On The Hill for example there are probably about 100 different theories about who Paul wrote the song about but no one is sure. So the video/song can mean anything unless proven wrong by the artist himself.

No, it's not true by default, until Em says otherwise. The burden of proof is on those who make the wild claim not those who believe reality.

It can't mean anything you want, you can believe that it does but that doesn't make it fact.

From the lyrics and video, the song is about a relationship with a woman, who he finds out is cheating and so kills her, and then commits suicide.

The lyrics and video PROVE that is the content. Anything OUTSIDE of that has to be absolutely proven true, or it's totally imaginary. There is no evidence for it meaning anything else, other than that. All these theories are using totally unsupported basis', guesswork and jumps.

So, until the artist says it's something more than it appears, it is what it appears. Especially with Eminem, and recent Em. People thinking he's that complex now are funny. It's a simplistic love story, just like "Love the Way You Lie". It's emotional content, not complex, metaphorical content.

[Willy]

Not saying I believe it is a metaphor for drugs, but some things do line up. Here's what I thought:

-The drugs were there when he was at his lowest point, alone, (loss of Proof). That is when he seriously started abusing them and started to get fucked off them.

-The girl picks him up when he is alone.

-He realizes slowly that he is addicted to drugs, and they can kill him.

-He sees signs and slowly realizes that the girl is dangerous and can hurt him. (Used hurt instead of kill to go with the relationship thing, but you get the idea.)

-Drugs killed him, but really, can you blame it on the drugs? Nope, drug woman disappears and Em is the one at fault, because really its not the drugs, it was him abusing the drugs. His fault, so he holds the gun.

-(kind of a stretch) Coffee cup overflowing, drug overdosing.

-He gets a second chance in life. Undoubtedly he is going to run into the drugs, alcohol, and heroin again, so drug lady returns. He will be placed in the same situation of pressure, and now, it is up to him to decide what he wants to do in round two.

I'm sorry man, not gonna insult you or anything but, I think that's silly lmao.

I used to try and concoct these theories for Recovery songs when it came out until I realized it's all a lot simpler, Em does not think like this. He's not that contrived or complex with ideas. He wouldn't layer metaphor upon metaphor and have a female and the situation all be symbols for addiction etc. lmao.

It's simple - it's a relationship song where he thinks his girlfriend is cheating, finds out that she is, so then kills her. And then kills himself out of guilt (hence looking at his hands in disbelief at what he's just done, to the woman he loved).

And there is no other reason to think it's anything else. He's never layered metaphors and symbolism to the degree you're suggesting before, and the song / video is what you see / what you get. There is no evidence or reason to think it's anything other than it seems.

People are just wishful and want to make Em's fairly simple music a lot more complex than it is now. To give him more credit lmao. But anything outside of its face-value is speculation / imaginary.

And you're making totally false and unsupported connections / basis' to support / create your theory. You can't just conclude that because Em was on his own when Proof died that him being on his own in a video is therefore a direct metaphor for that specific thing lmao. There's no evidence for that other than what's in your head. It's not reality.

Fair enough, I agree it is a stretch and was more me just watching and typing. Just a few thoughts I had concerning the video because I remember a thread where people were discussing the possibility of a drug metaphor.

[Weezy]

WHEN THE FUCK IS VEVO UPLOADING IT?!?!?!

Sunday

Finally: "Spacebound" video available at iTunes only starting tmrw at 5pm EST then http://www.vevo.com on Sunday night @Midnight PST. #spacebound

Why?

[EminemBase]

Fair enough, I agree it is a stretch and was more me just watching and typing. Just a few thoughts I had concerning the video because I remember a thread where people were discussing the possibility of a drug metaphor.

Fair enough. If it's just for the fun of conversation, fill your boots. But I don't think anybody can seriously claim the song / video is anything other than what it appears...

1. Em isn't that complex
2. There's no reasoned evidence to suggest it's anything else

I could watch "The Real Slim Shady" video for example and say the chicken nuggets in the video are meant to represent the government and Em spitting on them is a metaphor for him spitting on congress, and 'the real Slim Shady' is a metaphor for justice. And that he's asking justice to 'stand up'.

See, and, it's just as spurious and yet unable to be totally 'disproven' as any theory we could all imagine or connect lmao. But, we know what the song is about and if we all went around disregarding what things appear to be or obviously are, we're just ignoring reality.

[legokiba213]

No, it's not true until proven false lmao. The burden of proof is on those who make the wild claim not those who believe reality.

It can't mean anything you want, you can believe that it does but that doesn't make it fact.

From the lyrics and video, the song is about a relationship with a woman, who he finds out is cheating and so kills her, and then commits suicide.

The lyrics and video PROVE that is the content. Anything OUTSIDE of that has to be absolutely proven true, or it's false and total speculation. There is no evidence for it meaning anything else, other than that. All these theories are using totally unsupported basis', guesswork and jumps.

So, until the artist says it's something more than it appears, it is what it appears. Especially with Eminem, and recent Em. People thinking he's that complex now are funny. It's a simplistic love story, just like "Love the Way You Lie". It's emotional content, not complex, metaphorical content.

Exactly, you can make it out to what you want it to be and you find your own proof so therefore fact in your eyes. You interpret the lyrics in your own way and what makes sense to you. Like WilyMo021 he saw in the video HIS interpretation of the video and now he believes that is what the video is about and do you have a statement from EM proving that he did not make the video the way WilyMo021 states it to be? But then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this is mine and you have yours.

[Elision]

Oh my god... That was one of the deepest videos I have ever seen

[EminemBase]

No, it's not true until proven false lmao. The burden of proof is on those who make the wild claim not those who believe reality.

It can't mean anything you want, you can believe that it does but that doesn't make it fact.

From the lyrics and video, the song is about a relationship with a woman, who he finds out is cheating and so kills her, and then commits suicide.

The lyrics and video PROVE that is the content. Anything OUTSIDE of that has to be absolutely proven true, or it's false and total speculation. There is no evidence for it meaning anything else, other than that. All these theories are using totally unsupported basis', guesswork and jumps.

So, until the artist says it's something more than it appears, it is what it appears. Especially with Eminem, and recent Em. People thinking he's that complex now are funny. It's a simplistic love story, just like "Love the Way You Lie". It's emotional content, not complex, metaphorical content.

Exactly, you can make it out to what you want it to be and you find your own proof so therefore fact in your eyes. You interpret the lyrics in your own way and what makes sense to you. Like WilyMo021 he saw in the video HIS interpretation of the video and now he believes that is what the video is about and do you have a statement from EM proving that he did not make the video the way WilyMo021 states it to be? But then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this is mine and you have yours.

That doesn't make it a FACT though. A fact is something that can be PROVEN with indisputable evidence and clearly observed outside of metaphor or individual interpretation.

I could personally believe The Simpsons is written by Al Sharpton, that the world is triangle and we've been lied to and that my skin is bullet proof, my belief doesn't make these things facts though does it. It makes them totally unfounded personal beliefs.

And any interpretation, outside of reality and what Eminem is clearly communicating (very clearly) and showing is a personal belief. Not a fact, and not reality. So sure, believe it's about whatever you like, but you cannot say that it actually is, or that it's just as true. As it's not.

One claim, that it's about a relationship where he finds out his girlfriend is cheating, kills her then himself is the REALITY. That is backed up by overwhelming evidence. Every single thing he says in the song, every lyric communicates that and the video then coincides with the lyrics exactly, to convey the exact thing that he is talking about.

Any other claim, is imaginary and unfounded. So until you can prove it with reality, and not wild leaps and guesswork and personal wishful thinking and links you're creating yourself, it's not reality. And it's not 'as true' or 'as possible' as the clear, obvious reality.

[legokiba213]

No, it's not true until proven false lmao. The burden of proof is on those who make the wild claim not those who believe reality.

It can't mean anything you want, you can believe that it does but that doesn't make it fact.

From the lyrics and video, the song is about a relationship with a woman, who he finds out is cheating and so kills her, and then commits suicide.

The lyrics and video PROVE that is the content. Anything OUTSIDE of that has to be absolutely proven true, or it's false and total speculation. There is no evidence for it meaning anything else, other than that. All these theories are using totally unsupported basis', guesswork and jumps.

So, until the artist says it's something more than it appears, it is what it appears. Especially with Eminem, and recent Em. People thinking he's that complex now are funny. It's a simplistic love story, just like "Love the Way You Lie". It's emotional content, not complex, metaphorical content.

Exactly, you can make it out to what you want it to be and you find your own proof so therefore fact in your eyes. You interpret the lyrics in your own way and what makes sense to you. Like WilyMo021 he saw in the video HIS interpretation of the video and now he believes that is what the video is about and do you have a statement from EM proving that he did not make the video the way WilyMo021 states it to be? But then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this is mine and you have yours.

That doesn't make it a FACT though. A fact is something that can be PROVEN with indisputable evidence and clearly observed outside of metaphor or individual interpretation.

I could personally believe The Simpsons is written by Al Sharpton, that the world is triangle and we've been lied to and that my skin is bullet proof, my belief doesn't make these things facts though does it. It makes them totally unfounded personal beliefs.

And any interpretation, outside of reality and what Eminem is clearly communicating (very clearly) and showing is a personal belief. Not a fact, and not reality. So sure, believe it's about whatever you like, but you cannot say that it actually is, or that it's just as true. As it's not.

One claim, that it's about a relationship where he finds out his girlfriend is cheating, kills her then himself is the REALITY. That is backed up by overwhelming evidence. Every single thing he says in the song, every lyric communicates that and the video then coincides with the lyrics exactly, to convey the exact thing that he is talking about.

Any other claim, is imaginary and unfounded. So until you can prove it with reality, and not wild leaps and guesswork and personal wishful thinking and links you're creating yourself, it's not reality. And it's not 'as true' or 'as possible' as the clear, obvious reality.

I can see what you're saying and just to let you know I agree with you on what the song is about it's just about a relationship and nothing more in my eyes but my interpretation is not some one else's so I was just trying to communicate to you that what you believe this song is about is not what someone else believe this song is about but that doesn't mean either of you are wrong. it is just an interpretation of what you believe the lyrics/video to be about but of course it is just speculation you yourself have no proof that the song is about a relationship and not a metaphor for his drug addiction. The interpretation of music is never proof just pure speculation.

[Trimss]

Oh my god... That was one of the deepest videos I have ever seen

Fucking this. I saw Eminem dying it juste made me cry.

[Mahmoud48]

i dont give a fuck if the video was a metaphor
it sucked

[Trimss]

I didn't expect to see blood.

[Sukot]

I didn't expect to see blood.

lol. I expected it, once I found out that Sasha Grey would be in the video.

[Koolo2010]

the ONLY stupid and weird cut...was eminem fallin throught that window...... if he had a shotgun..i could understand...but a revolver? wtf,.,,,

otherwise..the video is dope...

[OneDream_89]

Meh.... decent video. I expected more but fuck it