Is stan em's best song ever?

[EM1973]

Stan is a great song.One of the best songs ever if we speak about music general.It is in comparisons with every type of music.Isn't so comparable as a Hip-Hop song imo.

[Trimss]

^sure, there is a video for it.

No seriously, i can see him writing his letters, and i don't know.. it's like you can even know how Stan feels. That's why it's more powerful like just said.

[classthe_king]

it's like they're not even rap songs, they're just him in a situation happening to be rhyming,

And therein lies the genius of the songs. Very few lyricists can achieve that effect. Not Immortal Technique.

and maybe that's why you like them because they seem like a real situation but I don't really like listening to them.

Well, the fact that you don't like the execution or find its overall sound unpleasant shouldn't detract from how well-written/crafted the lyrics are, right?

You prefer lyrics, don't you?

I think Stan is the only song that contends with Dance With The Devil but the twist in DWTD is better than Stans so it's wow effect gives it the edge.

No, Stan is a much, much better song.

Dance With The Devil is a simple third-person narration. Stan is a CONCEPT song and it's in-character. He's writing/rapping in letter form. Making it actually sound like a letter, while making Stan sound like an obsessed fan, WHILE rhyming well... is muuuuuch harder than a simple third-person narration ("Billy did this... Billy did that").

Stan is a much-better linked song and it's so much more detailed. Everything Stan says either foreshadows something that is said later, or it is linked later. For example, Stan doesn't say he's going to name his daughter Bonnie for no reason... because Eminem later links back to it: "I'm really flattered you'd call your daughter that."

He doesn't say his girlfriend is pregnant for no reason, it is linked: "You said your girlfriend's pregnant now"/"He has his girlfriend in the back, and she was pregnant with his kid."

He doesn't say "We should be together too" for no reason, as that is later linked.

To cut a long story short, every line in "Stan" is there for a reason. There are plenty of lines in Dance with the Devil that don't need to be there.

To add to that... Stan has a clear, powerful message. Dance with the Devil doesn't really seem to have a message (don't rape people or you'll go to hell?).

And given all the constraints Eminem set for himself in "Stan," he still managed to rhyme better than Immortal Technique. Immortal Technique mostly rhymes one syllable throughout the entire song.

P.S.: Dance with the Devil has a really unrealistic overall feel to it. When they see the woman walking on the street, Billy can't recognize her as his mother? This is before they put a shirt over her face, BTW.

It's fucking retarded that Billy didn't see his mother's face before they reached her and put a shirt over it.

Well I don't really have any argument back to that lol. They are both classic songs I just like Dance With Devil more. The first time I heard it it gave me that wow, chilling feel that Stan didn't really give me. And I don't care how genius Kim and 97 Bonnie and Clyde are I just don't like listening to them. The baby talk and the screaming are annoying.

[Manny_Boi]

It depends what you mean by "best song ever". It's definitely one of his best story telling songs ever. Eminem has made too many great songs back in his prime to just choose one song as his best. Also, a lot of people(myself included) prefer songs like Till I Collapse and My Dad's Gone Crazy. I respect Stan because it's an amazing work for art, but I don't like to listen to it that often because it's not as entertaining as his other songs.