Where would Eminem be if he released Relapse 2?

[python]

hm, good tracklist tho. i'd replace the warning with something however.

[EarlShady]

hm, good tracklist tho. i'd replace the warning with something however.

the warning fits as a sequel to Bagpipes From Baghdad considering its his response to her response to that, plus it works when you put it in the same spot on the tracklist.

[python]

fair enough. i'm putting them all together to see if they fit together.

[Kill You]

That would have been a fantastic album.

[python]

cutting down the blank parts, it's 1:13:21. pretty much the same as relapse.

actually, so bad would fit on relapse 2, looking back.

[python]

it could work after the warning.

[Jimmy Conway]

Relapse 2 would have made his legacy better. But who cares? It didn't happen. The Relapse Era gave us 30? 40? good songs. It sucks he caved to label and critic pressure. But that's always been a flaw in him. Even though he screamed Just don't give a fuck he was dying his hair and making radio single songs. Hypocrisy is a part of him. He went the way he was told to go and not the way he wanted to go and he got burned for it. But in the last five years a lot of good songs were made.

[python]

i will be uploading relapse 2.

[python]

i'm currently trying to find a good order for the songs.

[Mathers]

how do you know what was recorded for relapse 2 and what was recorded for recovery?

I'm assuming.....

Cold Wind Blows, Untitled, On Fire, Ridaz, Going Through Changes, and Session One sound like R2 material. Thus why Recovery sounds like 2 albums having anal sex with each other.

At one point, Em went back to change some things in R2 and began working with new producers....this is what eventually led to Recovery, but there was that time frame where Em was just touching up R2....

I feel like the above mentioned are from that time.

Only Ridaz and So Bad were R2 material, GTC sounds nothing like it.

[python]

how do you know what was recorded for relapse 2 and what was recorded for recovery?

I'm assuming.....

Cold Wind Blows, Untitled, On Fire, Ridaz, Going Through Changes, and Session One sound like R2 material. Thus why Recovery sounds like 2 albums having anal sex with each other.

At one point, Em went back to change some things in R2 and began working with new producers....this is what eventually led to Recovery, but there was that time frame where Em was just touching up R2....

I feel like the above mentioned are from that time.

Only Ridaz and So Bad were R2 material, GTC sounds nothing like it.

from what i've heard, going through changes WAS going to be on relapse 2. it was intended to be the album's deja vu, but eminem put it on recovery. so yes, it is from relapse 2.

plus, recovery is intended to show eminem recovering from the drugs, not rapping from the angle of him on drugs, only more evidence.

[Mr Change]

from what i've heard, going through changes WAS going to be on relapse 2. it was intended to be the album's deja vu, but eminem put it on recovery. so yes, it is from relapse 2.

plus, recovery is intended to show eminem recovering from the drugs, not rapping from the angle of him on drugs, only more evidence.

What are you serious Any proof?

[python]

i'm searching from the interview where it was said.

[python]

Relapse 2 was a mix of Relapse and Recovery, from what I've heard.

[Jimmy Conway]

Relapse 2 would have made his legacy better. But who cares? It didn't happen. The Relapse Era gave us 30? 40? good songs. It sucks he caved to label and critic pressure. But that's always been a flaw in him. Even though he screamed Just don't give a fuck he was dying his hair and making radio single songs. Hypocrisy is a part of him. He went the way he was told to go and not the way he wanted to go and he got burned for it. But in the last five years a lot of good songs were made.

Did he really cave in though? According to both Paul and Fif, Em himself was pissed off with the reception Relapse gained, so he went back and pumped out Recovery. People and critics were saying pretty bad things about Em at the time, even Budden said Em fell off - not lyrically but I suppose content wise. Em takes his legacy seriously so hearing he's done, essentially, probably pissed him off and voila! Recovery was born.

I'm sure Relapse 2 wouldn't have sounded like Relapse given the fact 1) he doesn't like repeating his sound and 2) the tracks we know/suspect were meant for Relapse 2 don't sound anything like the songs on the first one.

Has "hypocrisy" been a part of his career? Yeah, but being reactionary is what made him an absolute monster. Recovery was a reactionary album but in my opinion, in the wrong direction...sonically.

Well of course Paul is going to say that. He isn't going to say we put him in this "the way I am" atmosphere and pressured him into changing it. And 50, like Royce and all the Eminem's babies, they will say whatever makes Daddy Em look better.

I mean, I could very well be wrong. I don't have any real evidence. It just make sense to me. Yeah, there were negative things written about Relapse. And there were negative things written against Infinite, Encore, and Recovery too. The only way you can keep respectable sources from writing bad about you is to make an absolute classic. So I doubt that influenced it. Everyone hated Encore and his was response to that was to make songs about getting fucked by his Dad and raping and eating women.

So yes, I think he cave. That's part of who he is. That trying to fit in nerd is always in there. And sometimes it gets pushed around.