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Encore vs BISD

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BISD or Encore?

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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby Evan C. » Nov 19th, '09, 04:36

shadybaby46 wrote:considering if it hadn't leaked then there wouldnt be 3 of the worst songs on that album and you'd have we as americans, yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mockingbird, never enough, puke, spend some time, ricky ticky tock, love you more, crazy in love, one shot 2 shot..... all on one album, i dont care what you say, thats not a "garbage" album.

Actually it is.

It's amusing to me when people act like the leaked bonus songs were soooo dooope, when lyrically they were far inferior to almost anything from TES, TMMLP, or TSSLP.

Heck even Eminem admitted that everything he was writing around that time wasn't up to his personal standards, because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 19th, '09, 04:41

2/3 bonus songs are flat out phenomenal for their raw emotion. Lyrically they're not among his best, but the passion was there.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby shadybaby46 » Nov 19th, '09, 04:42

Evan C. wrote:
shadybaby46 wrote:considering if it hadn't leaked then there wouldnt be 3 of the worst songs on that album and you'd have we as americans, yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mockingbird, never enough, puke, spend some time, ricky ticky tock, love you more, crazy in love, one shot 2 shot..... all on one album, i dont care what you say, thats not a "garbage" album.

Actually it is.

It's amusing to me when people act like the leaked bonus songs were soooo dooope, when lyrically they were far inferior to almost anything from TES, TMMLP, or TSSLP.

Heck even Eminem admitted that everything he was writing around that time wasn't up to his personal standards, because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.



yeah nobody said lyrically it was his best album, but lyrics arent everything. i'd rather a cd with all that emotion like encore then an album like relapse thats basically pure lyrics.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby Bistnal » Nov 19th, '09, 04:46

Evan C. wrote:
shadybaby46 wrote:considering if it hadn't leaked then there wouldnt be 3 of the worst songs on that album and you'd have we as americans, yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mockingbird, never enough, puke, spend some time, ricky ticky tock, love you more, crazy in love, one shot 2 shot..... all on one album, i dont care what you say, thats not a "garbage" album.

Actually it is.

It's amusing to me when people act like the leaked bonus songs were soooo dooope, when lyrically they were far inferior to almost anything from TES, TMMLP, or TSSLP.

Heck even Eminem admitted that everything he was writing around that time wasn't up to his personal standards, because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.

A song doesn't have to have the best lyrics to be a great song. But true, it was lyrically a step below TES & MMLP era Eminem. However, the songs were lyrically alright and were good songs. You can't deny that. They would have made Encore instead of "garbage", a "decent" album.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby shadybaby46 » Nov 19th, '09, 04:52

Evan C. wrote:
shadybaby46 wrote:considering if it hadn't leaked then there wouldnt be 3 of the worst songs on that album and you'd have we as americans, yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mockingbird, never enough, puke, spend some time, ricky ticky tock, love you more, crazy in love, one shot 2 shot..... all on one album, i dont care what you say, thats not a "garbage" album.

Actually it is.

It's amusing to me when people act like the leaked bonus songs were soooo dooope, when lyrically they were far inferior to almost anything from TES, TMMLP, or TSSLP.

Heck even Eminem admitted that everything he was writing around that time wasn't up to his personal standards, because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.



also crazy in love in terms of flow is probably better then 95% of the SLP,MMLP and TES
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby Evan C. » Nov 19th, '09, 04:53

shadybaby46 wrote:
Evan C. wrote:
shadybaby46 wrote:considering if it hadn't leaked then there wouldnt be 3 of the worst songs on that album and you'd have we as americans, yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mockingbird, never enough, puke, spend some time, ricky ticky tock, love you more, crazy in love, one shot 2 shot..... all on one album, i dont care what you say, thats not a "garbage" album.

Actually it is.

It's amusing to me when people act like the leaked bonus songs were soooo dooope, when lyrically they were far inferior to almost anything from TES, TMMLP, or TSSLP.

Heck even Eminem admitted that everything he was writing around that time wasn't up to his personal standards, because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.



yeah nobody said lyrically it was his best album, but lyrics arent everything. i'd rather a cd with all that emotion like encore then an album like relapse thats basically pure lyrics.

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Lyrics aren't everything, but they play a huge fucking part. This is RAP after all.

It's just amazing to me how people will come out and say they prefer the drugged-out pill zombie Eminem the Relapse era Eminem.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby Evan C. » Nov 19th, '09, 04:54

Amadeo wrote:
Evan C. wrote:
shadybaby46 wrote:considering if it hadn't leaked then there wouldnt be 3 of the worst songs on that album and you'd have we as americans, yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mockingbird, never enough, puke, spend some time, ricky ticky tock, love you more, crazy in love, one shot 2 shot..... all on one album, i dont care what you say, thats not a "garbage" album.

Actually it is.

It's amusing to me when people act like the leaked bonus songs were soooo dooope, when lyrically they were far inferior to almost anything from TES, TMMLP, or TSSLP.

Heck even Eminem admitted that everything he was writing around that time wasn't up to his personal standards, because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.

actually Love You More was lyrically superior to most of The Eminem Show

Uh, no. Most of that song is weak as fuck. On most of the Eminem Show he rhymes his ass off.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby Evan C. » Nov 19th, '09, 04:56

shadybaby46 wrote:
Evan C. wrote:
shadybaby46 wrote:considering if it hadn't leaked then there wouldnt be 3 of the worst songs on that album and you'd have we as americans, yellow brick road, like toy soldiers, mockingbird, never enough, puke, spend some time, ricky ticky tock, love you more, crazy in love, one shot 2 shot..... all on one album, i dont care what you say, thats not a "garbage" album.

Actually it is.

It's amusing to me when people act like the leaked bonus songs were soooo dooope, when lyrically they were far inferior to almost anything from TES, TMMLP, or TSSLP.

Heck even Eminem admitted that everything he was writing around that time wasn't up to his personal standards, because his mind was so cluttered from the drugs.



also crazy in love in terms of flow is probably better then 95% of the SLP,MMLP and TES

In terms of flow? His flow was basically flawless on all those albums. You have no idea what flow is.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 19th, '09, 05:05

Amadeo wrote:
Evan C. wrote:Uh, no. Most of that song is weak as fuck. On most of the Eminem Show he rhymes his ass off.

uh, yes. Most of that song is strong as fuck, lyrically. On Love you more he rhymes his ass off.

Give him a break, Theamadeo. He obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.

Love you More is in my top 10 Em songs.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby Evan C. » Nov 19th, '09, 05:15

Amadeo wrote:
Evan C. wrote:Uh, no. Most of that song is weak as fuck. On most of the Eminem Show he rhymes his ass off.

uh, yes. Most of that song is strong as fuck, lyrically. On Love you more he rhymes his ass off.

It's sick but who could ever predict we'd be doin' the same shit
We say that we do it for our baby but we don't, we do it for us
It's lust, 'cuz neither one of us trusts each other so we fuck
'till we bust, 'till we cuss each other out, we know what it's about
Shout 'till I throw you out the house, you throw me out the house
I throw you on the couch, punch you in the mouth, we fist fight
'till we turn this mother out and apologize after, laughter
Pain, it's insane, we're back in the same chapter again
And it's sad but it's true, when i'm laying here with you
There ain't nothing anyone could ever say or ever do 'cuz


Verse 1, no multies. He repeats "out the house" because he can't find rhymes. This verse is piss-poor lyrically.

'Cuz I hate you, do you hate me?
Good, 'cuz you're so fuckin beautiful when you're angry
It makes me wanna just take you and just throw you
on the bed and fuck you like I don't even know you
You FUCK other people and I FUCK other people
You're a SLUT, but i'm equal, i'm a MUTT, we're both evil in our ways
but neither one of us would ever admit it
'Cuz one of us would have one up on the other so forget it
We can make accusations, people spread rumours
But they ain't got proof, 'till they do, it's just the two of us
You and me, 'cuz any chick can say that she's screwin' me
But you gotta believe it to a degree 'cuz true indeed
If you didn't I wouldn't be hittin', yeah I would
'Cuz the sex is too damn good, if I ran, who would I run to
that would be this soft and warm? So it's off and on
Usually more off then on but at least we know that we
Share this common bond, you're the only one I can fuck
without a condom on, I hope the only reason that I cope
Is 'cuz of that fact and plus, I can bust in that, and that's why


This verse is a little better rhyme-wise (common bond/condom on) but he's still not hitting line for line. Not even close to "rhyming his ass off".

can never understand it, that's why I don't try
From junior high until we both die, you silly hoe why must we try
Is it really so rough that we must always call each other's Billy Goat's Gruff
Try to pull each other's legs until the other begs
We're lying to ourself, that's the beauty of it, yeah
'Cuz we truly love each other, that's why we always fight
And all we do is shove each other every other fuckin' night
And it's clear, it ain't gonna change, this pinned up rage
We both have, we both feel like we've been upstaged
By someone else, we both been someone else's someone else
The problem is neither one wants help, it's an addiction
And it can't be fixed, our family's mixed up
There's a baby sister in the mix and it hurts 'cuz the pieces to the puzzle don't fit
And anybody who thinks he knows us doesn't know shit
And they're probably just tired of hearing it all the time on every song
Every lyric and every rhyme, all the hoopla, all of the woopty woo
What you put me through, fuckin' woopty do
But I won't be made a fool of, if this is true love
You wouldn't do what you did last time, you wouldn't screw up
This time, 'cuz this time girl i'm tellin you what
You do it again and i'm fuckin' you up 'cuz no matter


This is the best verse, and it's still weak as fuck. Where is he rhyming his ass off exactly?
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby slimsoxshady » Nov 19th, '09, 05:18

owned...still a great song though
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby shadybaby46 » Nov 19th, '09, 05:20

Evan C. wrote:
Amadeo wrote:
Evan C. wrote:Uh, no. Most of that song is weak as fuck. On most of the Eminem Show he rhymes his ass off.

uh, yes. Most of that song is strong as fuck, lyrically. On Love you more he rhymes his ass off.

It's sick but who could ever predict we'd be doin' the same shit
We say that we do it for our baby but we don't, we do it for us
It's lust, 'cuz neither one of us trusts each other so we fuck
'till we bust, 'till we cuss each other out, we know what it's about
Shout 'till I throw you out the house, you throw me out the house
I throw you on the couch, punch you in the mouth, we fist fight
'till we turn this mother out and apologize after, laughter
Pain, it's insane, we're back in the same chapter again
And it's sad but it's true, when i'm laying here with you
There ain't nothing anyone could ever say or ever do 'cuz


Verse 1, no multies. He repeats "out the house" because he can't find rhymes. This verse is piss-poor lyrically.

'Cuz I hate you, do you hate me?
Good, 'cuz you're so fuckin beautiful when you're angry
It makes me wanna just take you and just throw you
on the bed and fuck you like I don't even know you
You FUCK other people and I FUCK other people
You're a SLUT, but i'm equal, i'm a MUTT, we're both evil in our ways
but neither one of us would ever admit it
'Cuz one of us would have one up on the other so forget it
We can make accusations, people spread rumours
But they ain't got proof, 'till they do, it's just the two of us
You and me, 'cuz any chick can say that she's screwin' me
But you gotta believe it to a degree 'cuz true indeed
If you didn't I wouldn't be hittin', yeah I would
'Cuz the sex is too damn good, if I ran, who would I run to
that would be this soft and warm? So it's off and on
Usually more off then on but at least we know that we
Share this common bond, you're the only one I can fuck
without a condom on, I hope the only reason that I cope
Is 'cuz of that fact and plus, I can bust in that, and that's why


This verse is a little better rhyme-wise (common bond/condom on) but he's still not hitting line for line. Not even close to "rhyming his ass off".

can never understand it, that's why I don't try
From junior high until we both die, you silly hoe why must we try
Is it really so rough that we must always call each other's Billy Goat's Gruff
Try to pull each other's legs until the other begs
We're lying to ourself, that's the beauty of it, yeah
'Cuz we truly love each other, that's why we always fight
And all we do is shove each other every other fuckin' night
And it's clear, it ain't gonna change, this pinned up rage
We both have, we both feel like we've been upstaged
By someone else, we both been someone else's someone else
The problem is neither one wants help, it's an addiction
And it can't be fixed, our family's mixed up
There's a baby sister in the mix and it hurts 'cuz the pieces to the puzzle don't fit
And anybody who thinks he knows us doesn't know shit
And they're probably just tired of hearing it all the time on every song
Every lyric and every rhyme, all the hoopla, all of the woopty woo
What you put me through, fuckin' woopty do
But I won't be made a fool of, if this is true love
You wouldn't do what you did last time, you wouldn't screw up
This time, 'cuz this time girl i'm tellin you what
You do it again and i'm fuckin' you up 'cuz no matter


This is the best verse, and it's still weak as fuck. Where is he rhyming his ass off exactly?



i see no reason to even argue with you about this anymore, you clearly cant identify good rhymes, his rhymes in those verses are a lot more complicated then you give them credit for. thats all im gonna say.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 19th, '09, 05:23

Internal rhymes fucking galore in that motherfucker.

You can't just throw out the word "multis" and expect people to think you know what you're talking about.

Rapping is an art, not a science. You seem to be running the lyrics through some rap scientific method or something. Overanalyzing. That's the only logical explanation I can come up with for your ignorance.

You'll get over it.
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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby shadybaby46 » Nov 19th, '09, 05:27

MeathookSodomy wrote:Internal rhymes fucking galore in that motherfucker.

You can't just throw out the word "multis" and expect people to think you know what you're talking about.

Rapping is an art, not a science. You seem to be running the lyrics through some rap scientific method or something. Overanalyzing. That's the only logical explanation I can come up with for your ignorance.

You'll get over it.



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Re: Encore vs BISD

Postby Evan C. » Nov 19th, '09, 05:28

shadybaby46 wrote:

i see no reason to even argue with you about this anymore, you clearly cant identify good rhymes, his rhymes in those verses are a lot more complicated then you give them credit for. thats all im gonna say.

Good rhymes? He resorts to rhyming "woopty woo" and "whoopty-do". The song is basically devoid of multis and clever rhyming.

Don't speak on things you have no clue about.
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