Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

[Mahmoud48]

the ONLY stupid and weird cut...was eminem fallin throught that window...... if he had a shotgun..i could understand...but a revolver? wtf,.,,,

otherwise..the video is dope...

maybe that was a strong ass revolver

[Willy]

No, it's not true until proven false lmao. The burden of proof is on those who make the wild claim not those who believe reality.

It can't mean anything you want, you can believe that it does but that doesn't make it fact.

From the lyrics and video, the song is about a relationship with a woman, who he finds out is cheating and so kills her, and then commits suicide.

The lyrics and video PROVE that is the content. Anything OUTSIDE of that has to be absolutely proven true, or it's false and total speculation. There is no evidence for it meaning anything else, other than that. All these theories are using totally unsupported basis', guesswork and jumps.

So, until the artist says it's something more than it appears, it is what it appears. Especially with Eminem, and recent Em. People thinking he's that complex now are funny. It's a simplistic love story, just like "Love the Way You Lie". It's emotional content, not complex, metaphorical content.

Exactly, you can make it out to what you want it to be and you find your own proof so therefore fact in your eyes. You interpret the lyrics in your own way and what makes sense to you. Like WilyMo021 he saw in the video HIS interpretation of the video and now he believes that is what the video is about and do you have a statement from EM proving that he did not make the video the way WilyMo021 states it to be? But then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this is mine and you have yours.

That doesn't make it a FACT though. A fact is something that can be PROVEN with indisputable evidence and clearly observed outside of metaphor or individual interpretation.

I could personally believe The Simpsons is written by Al Sharpton, that the world is triangle and we've been lied to and that my skin is bullet proof, my belief doesn't make these things facts though does it. It makes them totally unfounded personal beliefs.

And any interpretation, outside of reality and what Eminem is clearly communicating (very clearly) and showing is a personal belief. Not a fact, and not reality. So sure, believe it's about whatever you like, but you cannot say that it actually is, or that it's just as true. As it's not.

One claim, that it's about a relationship where he finds out his girlfriend is cheating, kills her then himself is the REALITY. That is backed up by overwhelming evidence. Every single thing he says in the song, every lyric communicates that and the video then coincides with the lyrics exactly, to convey the exact thing that he is talking about.

Any other claim, is imaginary and unfounded. So until you can prove it with reality, and not wild leaps and guesswork and personal wishful thinking and links you're creating yourself, it's not reality. And it's not 'as true' or 'as possible' as the clear, obvious reality.

For the sake of discussion.

Do you not agree there are hints of a double meaning? Why would the girl have a gun? Why the wolf? Why even bother with the shot of the coffee cup overflowing? Why the approach they took at all when making this music video, pretty odd for a simple relationship song.

Saying that Em doesn't think like this (I'm not sure what you actually said, so forgive me) is a bit unfair to him, the man who also created 25 to Life. Granted, in 25 to Life the comparison was more obvious, and he tells us at the end that "she" is hip hop, but that is also one of the biggest complaints listeners have for the song. Telling us that x stands for y takes away some of the magic. It makes the song less artsy, enjoyable, and relatable.

Also, I think your comparison about the world being a triangle is a bit unfair, I do believe that there is enough in the song and the music video for the listener to atleast flirt with the possibility of a metaphor.

A lot of the fun in music, art in general is had through ambiguous pieces. Each listener takes what they want from the piece, which is the beauty of art. (More of a general statement for the sake of blowing hot air, I realize you know this)

Anyways, just having a little fun with the video. I didn't mean to sound condescending at all during that post, as I have a great deal of respect for you.

Like I said, for the sake of discussion.

[killmaster56]

Does em get endorsments from the Gshock watch company....Clearly it is some form of advertisement when it zooms in really close to his watch. They did the same thing on I need a doctor music video.

[EminemBase]

I can see what you're saying and just to let you know I agree with you on what the song is about it's just about a relationship and nothing more in my eyes but my interpretation is not some one else's so I was just trying to communicate to you that what you believe this song is about is not what someone else believe this song is about but that doesn't mean either of you are wrong. it is just an interpretation of what you believe the lyrics/video to be about but of course it is just speculation you yourself have no proof that the song is about a relationship and not a metaphor for his drug addiction. The interpretation of music is never proof just pure speculation.

No but what you're not getting is... it's not 'my' interpretation that the song is about that. It's the obvious reality! I didn't create this theory. The lyrics and video convey this story, not in my eyes, in the eyes of logic!.

I'm not connecting dots or inventing things, every single thing in the lyrics, logically conveys it's a song about a relationship, where he kills a woman and then himself. Anybody who understands English, is not retarded and can hear, can hear that.

It's like saying... that it's a personal interpretation that The Godfather is about an Italian mob family. No, that's the reality. That's what you can see, and what is clear.

So anything outside of that, outside of the reality, is a personal interpretation that is unfounded. Anything outside of it IS wrong, until proven right. As there's no reasons to believe it's true, no objective, provable, logical reasoning to it. So it's unfounded.

Where as the clear, obvious and intended storyline of "Space Bound" is visually and obviously apparent without the need of explanation. It is what it is. Would you say it's a 'personal interpretation' that "Stan" is about a crazed Eminem fan that kills himself... and that anybody who believes it's something else (anything else) is just as correct? that's silly.

[Willy]

Why the wolf?

To correlate to his lonely state of being - a lone wolf.

What is that called

[Trimss]

The part in the car is awesome though.

This video shows how Eminem regrets something, it's clearly that. I don't know if it's about drugs though.


EDIT PS : NO AWKWARD MOVEMENTS!

[legokiba213]

I can see what you're saying and just to let you know I agree with you on what the song is about it's just about a relationship and nothing more in my eyes but my interpretation is not some one else's so I was just trying to communicate to you that what you believe this song is about is not what someone else believe this song is about but that doesn't mean either of you are wrong. it is just an interpretation of what you believe the lyrics/video to be about but of course it is just speculation you yourself have no proof that the song is about a relationship and not a metaphor for his drug addiction. The interpretation of music is never proof just pure speculation.

No but what you're not getting is... it's not 'my' interpretation that the song is about that. It's the obvious reality! I didn't create this theory. The lyrics and video convey this story, not in my eyes, in the eyes of logic!.

I'm not connecting dots or inventing things, every single thing in the lyrics, logically conveys it's a song about a relationship, where he kills a woman and then himself. Anybody who understands English, is not retarded and can hear, can hear that.

It's like saying... that it's a personal interpretation that The Godfather is about an Italian mob family. No, that's the reality. That's what you can see, and what is clear.

So anything outside of that, outside of the reality, is a personal interpretation that is unfounded. Anything outside of it IS wrong, until proven right. As there's no reasons to believe it's true, no objective, provable, logical reasoning to it. So it's unfounded.

Where as the clear, obvious and intended storyline of "Space Bound" is visually and obviously apparent without the need of explanation. It is what it is. Would you say it's a 'personal interpretation' that "Stan" is about a crazed Eminem fan that kills himself... and that anybody who believes it's something else (anything else) is just as correct? that's silly.

I was talking about music in general because Spacebound is ofc about a girl/relationship but it can also be twisted around so it can be about a drug addiction and there is no proving the person who states this wrong because in his head no matter what this song is about a drug addiction and nothing else just like in your mind (and mine) this song is about a relationship. I think you are simplifying what I am trying to say into simple things like saying that The Godfather is about an Italian mob family when we are talking about music which is known to have double meanings and metaphors and like I said this is my opinion but it was nice discussing this with you. It is the first time since I joined I actually talked to some one here so Thank You.

[EminemBase]

For the sake of discussion.

Do you not agree there are hints of a double meaning? Why would the girl have a gun? Why the wolf? Why even bother with the shot of the coffee cup overflowing? Why the approach they took at all when making this music video, pretty odd for a simple relationship song.

No I do not agree there are hints of a double-meaning. Eminem uses the words 'person', and 'woman'. If the female was supposed to be a metaphor for drugs, he wouldn't use this exact language that is not able to be transferred into the metaphor.

Just like with "25 to Life" he avoids using these words, as it would stop it being a double-meaning. Which is why he says 'bitch' and 'her' as the metaphor for hip-hop being a 'she' still works. But if he had said 'woman' or 'person', it would not work.

Which is exactly why the "Space Bound" theory does not work. As far as logic and language is concerned, Eminem is talking about a female, human woman. That is proven in his wording, and in the visuals of the video, hence there being a woman. Anything outside of that which you cannot prove with logic or evidence or show to be objectively the case, not including "yeah but what if..." and "let's imagine" type thoughts, is false.

- As for the gun: as somebody else previously said, I think Kez, the gun is probably to suggest she was going to kill him and leave with another man. Hence him checking her phone and seeing a car outside. He realized what she was going to do.

- As for the wolf: he's waiting for his GF to pick him up on a dark road. The road is just coinciding with the imagery of what he's saying ('cold' / 'walk down this road all alone'), and he's right next to a woods in a cold night. So the imagery of a wolf fits that and also fits the 'cold' / 'lone wolf' idea.

- As for the coffee cup overflowing: probably just to utilize / take advantage of the visual aspect of the 'rewind' effect. Again, you could make that or ANY image in the video, a metaphor for many things. I could also say the coffee cup is a metaphor for his emotions for the female overflowing. Doesn't mean it's true though.

As far as we're concerned and can see, it's just coffee that had been spilled, going back into a cup. My guess is that it's just for the sake of looking cool with the rewind feature and that Em was probably supposed to have spilled it when he fell back or something. Either way, it's not paramount to the story and the obvious story works with or without that.

So no... none of that is odd for a relationship song. You have a wolf, in a woods, as he's on a cold road waiting for his girlfriend to pick him up, and talking about how cold and alone (lone wolf) he is. Then you have his girlfriend, with a gun... texting another person. Em notices the gun, checks the phone, sees a car, puts it all together, and then kills her first... makes total logical sense.

That's the reality of what happens on screen. Your theory is sporadic and built on false links.

Saying that Em doesn't think like this (I'm not sure what you actually said, so forgive me) is a bit unfair to him, the man who also created 25 to Life. Granted, in 25 to Life the comparison was more obvious, and he tells us at the end that "she" is hip hop, but that is also one of the biggest complaints listeners have for the song. Telling us that x stands for y takes away some of the magic. It makes the song less artsy, enjoyable, and relatable.

Yes but "25 to Life" the metaphor is revealed, made clear. He wouldn't hide the metaphor completely, disguise it in totally deceiving imagery, words that make the metaphor not possible and incorrect and never tell anybody lmao.

He's paranoid enough as it is about people 'not getting things', I think you're seriously nuts if you think he'd make this single that contrived and layered and hope people picked up on it. It's a safety net, emotional, love story. Like "Love the Way You Lie".

The concept of "25 to Life" has been done before, by Common. Eminem didn't create it, he just did his own version of it. But like I said previously, even though the hip-hop being a female is the metaphor here, he makes that clear with the revelation "FUCK YOU HIP-HOP! I'M LEAVING YOU" at the end of the song. And his language 'she' / 'bitch' makes the metaphor possible.

Where as, using the words 'person' and 'woman' make the metaphor, not possible.

Also, I think your comparison about the world being a triangle is a bit unfair, I do believe that there is enough in the song and the music video for the listener to atleast flirt with the possibility of a metaphor.

Well ironically you've taken me too literally.

I hate it when people take exact analogies... EXACTLY lmao. The point of using such an extreme example, was not to say your belief was 'as' ridiculous as that. It's too emphasize my argument and point out, they are both unfounded and, a personal belief.

It's for the sake of emphasis, not direct comparison.

You say there's enough, but you could say that about anything. Like I said, let's say I want to believe 'Slim Shady' is a metaphor for justice in "The Real Slim Shady" and Eminem is telling 'justice' to stand-up. And the chicken nuggets represent congress, who he's spitting on.

Now, that is not ridiculous or insulting to your idea. It's just as unfounded. It goes against what you experience in the video and know to be true with your eyes, and there is no reason to believe it's true or holds any weight. You can believe it, but that doesn't make it real.

A lot of the fun in music, art in general is had through ambiguous pieces. Each listener takes what they want from the piece, which is the beauty of art. (More of a general statement for the sake of blowing hot air, I realize you know this)

Yes you can take what you want from it. Take, what you want.

But, you can't make what you want from it, as it's already been made. Sure, you can pretend or wish to believe it's about anything. Nobody is stopping you. But that does not make it reality.

The reality of this video is, as in... what we can clearly see and hear to be the case is that Eminem is with a girl, who no longer wants to be with him ("it's no longer me that you want"), so is cheating on him, he discovers this (sees her texting, checks phone... this is real-world logic, we do this everyday, it's not a leap or in my head) and kills her. Then shoots himself.

That is the only logical, clear and absolute story that everybody can see to be true. Anything outside of that, is your own story. Yes, believe whatever story you like. But until Eminem himself says that's the case or you can prove it conclusively, it's not true.

Anyways, just having a little fun with the video. I didn't mean to sound condescending at all during that post, as I have a great deal of respect for you.

Like I said, for the sake of discussion.

No problem. You didn't sound condescending either.

[Trimss]

Wait.. Why does he shot himself twice? Once in the motel, once in the house..

By the way Eminembase, the overflowing is when everything is on reverse.

[EminemBase]

^ Okay, now I know, updated.

[BILI]

I just want to say that Ems acting was nice...he can pull another movie

[Blake]

Honestly video was very dull til eminem shot himself which made me go DAMN. After all the wait i was expecting the greatest video ever but... not afraid video>this. i still love the song and im just gonna forget about this video and keep imagining it the way i think it is. to be honest they could have done a better job but hey its a decent video.

[EminemBase]

I just want to say that Ems acting was nice...he can pull another movie

Yeah.

And watching this makes me realize how well he's pulled of 'mature rapping'. He's kind of the first to make rapping this mature / adult from my knowledge.

As, the language is just like normal language, not 'rapper' language and it's just like a real story being told, in an adult way by an adult narrator. Sounds real-life too. Doesn't even really feel like rap, just feels like music. And a little piece of art.

And he just seems / looks like a serious, grown-up actor in a little storytelling video. Rather than a middle-aged rapper trying to pull off something past his age, which is what you'd assume he'd sound / look like at this point.

Pulled it off well as, I never would of imagined back in the day that the guy rapping "My Name Is" could still be rapping authentically at 38 and not looking or sounding stupid. Especially as he's white which sounds weird but just the idea of a near 40 year old white guy rapping seems ridiculous. And yet, he looks fine.

[BILI]

I just want to say that Ems acting was nice...he can pull another movie

Yeah.

And watching this makes me realize how well he's pulled of 'mature rapping'. He's kind of the first to make rapping this mature / adult from my knowledge.

As, the language is just like normal language, not 'rapper' language and it's just like a real story being told, in an adult way by an adult narrator. Sounds real-life too. Doesn't even really feel like rap, just feels like music. And a little piece of art.

And he just seems / looks like a serious, grown-up actor in a little storytelling video. Rather than a middle-aged rapper trying to pull off something past his age, which is what you'd assume he'd sound / look like at this point.

Pulled it off well as, I never would of imagined back in the day that the guy rapping "My Name Is" could still be rapping authentically at 38 and not looking or sounding stupid. Especially as he's white which sounds weird but just the idea of a near 40 year old white guy rapping seems ridiculous. And yet, he looks fine.

Yeah, thats why I like the video, Em brings out the emotions, him walking alone, worried all the time, dark vibe around him, I really relate to this video. Also that bar scene was played almost perfectly, he looked so natural, I always knew he can act to some point, but honestly he surprised me with this. And his expression were on point all the time, he was really into it, and that car scene, totally reminded me of 8 Mile...

[Rabbi]

I'm pretty sure this isn't the uncensored or full version when they rewind time there are parts that haven't been shown.