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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby Blu » Jun 25th, '11, 04:02

Well I just re-watched it, and the one thing I have a problem with is the scene at the diner, when the "Rapping" Em is just sitting there.. rapping. He should've been up in Sasha's face and stuff, like kinda during the car scene.
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby Rindain1 » Jun 25th, '11, 04:06

love the video, great acting and nice concept...and Eminem looks like he did at 28 for the first time since his comeback.
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby OMEGA » Jun 25th, '11, 04:08

shadymathers313 wrote:god i miss 2001 Em. hed kick this guys ass for making shit like this.


Shut the fuck up dude. If you want immature Em, go drown yourself watching his old material.

What the hell kind of video were you expecting for a serious song like this? Eminem on a yellow jumpsuit?
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Anyway I just watched the video and thought it was fucking great. I wish there was something more "space-ish" about it, like a scene at the end with the sky or something like that, but it was a pretty interesting, well edited video with layers of depth. The acting was also believable and even if there wasn't any spoken words, the body language was fantastic.
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby EminemBase » Jun 25th, '11, 04:25

Having watched it a few times now, I actually think this is a really good video.

I wasn't disappointed to begin with but just didn't think it was that good. But, it's a pretty class video, the way it's portrayed and edited. It's slickly done, and artistic.

And @ people moaning they want old Em, fuck that. Don't get me wrong, old Em was a genius but him rapping in jeans and a white top about celebrities or even using bitchy 'rapper talk' about society and his fame just seems immature and meh to me now.

I really like the rapper and artist that he is on "Space Bound". It's more mature, less corny and ultimately more timeless I think. As not many elements of it become dated. Where as slang and references and all that stuff, always do.

I can definitely see what he meant when speaking to Complex before Recovery came out, when he said he wanted to make classic, timeless songs that you could play 100, 1,000 times. This song is more thought-out and meaty, very real and timeless I think. I think a lot of Recovery songs will get better with time too. Although overall, it'll probably remain a patchy album (production).
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby CRiS_BeAsT » Jun 25th, '11, 04:27

The version i saw had this guy pop out at the end when eminem is falling on the floor, it switches to this guy.

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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby OMEGA » Jun 25th, '11, 04:37

This video should be HUGE. It was a great idea to hold it for that long because I think it has the chance to keep some momentum for Recovery and even indirectly bump sales for Hell The Sequel.
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jun 25th, '11, 04:47

Amazing video, best Recovery vid. :y:

Artistic and real. I completely agree with EminemBase about the video.
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby legokiba213 » Jun 25th, '11, 04:52

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legokiba213 wrote:I was talking about music in general because Spacebound is ofc about a girl/relationship but it can also be twisted around so it can be about a drug addiction and there is no proving the person who states this wrong because in his head no matter what this song is about a drug addiction and nothing else just like in your mind (and mine) this song is about a relationship.


Yes, in his HEAD he can believe that. How many times do I need to say he / anybody can believe what they want. But that does not make, it, true.

>>Anything<< can be twisted and contrived and talked-up to mean many things. Test me if you like, throw the most simplistic, one-dimensional, obvious piece of music... most obvious painting, picture or anything you like at me and I'll make it into a huge metaphor.

It's easy and anybody can draw any number of conclusions are construct any number of theories. But unless it's clearly the case or can be clearly proven, it is not, the case.

It's not 'in our mind' the song is about the relationship, it's in the lyrics and it's on the screen. Do you not see Eminem and a woman in the video? is than an illusion or in your head? do you not see a woman texting somebody else, as Eminem and this woman sit down in a cafe together? clearly indicating a real-world male / female relationship and a cheating girlfriend.

I'm not making that up, that's not an interpretation, that's the reality of what you see. Unless you want to start changing reality, and perception, and what we know to be true. That's it. And there is no conclusive evidence or reason to believe it's anything more in this case.

So no, it's not in my head. It's the reality that is the case.

legokiba213 wrote:I think you are simplifying what I am trying to say into simple things like saying that The Godfather is about an Italian mob family when we are talking about music which is known to have double meanings and metaphors.


Oh so you think "Space Bound" is more complex than The Godfather? you think The Godfather is simple? you've never seen a movie with a double-meaning?

Movies are much more complex than most music what are you talking about. Most songs are a few minutes long so any story that is told needs to be watered down and condensed. Where as a movie can last hours and has a whole world of characters and time to tap into it.

Movies have hundreds of metaphors, constantly layered throughout (The Matrix, Fight Club), being conveyed by characters and themes. You're totally off with that one.

Like I said though, let's take "Stan" then. I would assume you and everybody here would agree that the song is clearly about a crazed fan who kills himself yes? is that a theory or personal interpretation? no, it's what is conveyed CLEARLY through the lyrics and represented through the visuals.

It's the absolute reality of what you hear and see. As is the story in "Space Bound".

If I were to say Stan was a metaphor for Em's troubled past (which in a way you could even say he is, as he shares experiences with Eminem that he relates to and uses as justification for what he does) and that Stan killing himself was Eminem's way of saying his past is gone now, and he's looking forward... would that make it a reality? (and forget the fact Eminem has confirmed the song's meaning, assume he hadn't, as it's not relevant to the point).

Or, would it make it 'just as true' or 'just as possible' as the exact, apparent story that you can clearly conclude from the lyrics and video. Of course not, you can dream up any theory that you like but that does not make it 'just as plausible' as any other, or the obvious reality. As if it's a coin toss.

There's a lot of space between 0% likelihood and 100% likelihood and, if somebody thinks up a theory and it's unfounded, it doesn't immediately become 50/50. There's almost no evidence in favour of any of the theories said her. The obvious, clear-to-see story is equivalent to what you can see happening in "Stan", it's what is apparent through the lyrics, and video.

So, any theory you may think up outside of that, does not automatically become on the same scale of probability as the clearly intended truth you see in front of you.

People are obsessing over arbitrary detail with Eminem and his videos now, and this video and trying to apply meaning or metaphor to every single thing they see in every shot. Where as they don't do that with other artists or even Eminem's older work.

Look at the things that happen throughout the average video, that aren't all explained or just randomly part of a scene or a story. I mean, do you think Dido sitting on the shitter is a metaphor for some profound undertone, or how about Stan's brother's name is Matthew, is that some kind of biblical reference now. You could go on and on and on and make any minor or major thing anything you want and connect a million different things. Doesn't make it real.


Ofc it doesn't make it true I apologize if you misunderstood my posts and came to the conclusion that I believe what everyone says about a song I don't but I do believe that a person can believe what they want and to THEM which I have said a lot of times is the truth to no one else but to THEM. It is not believed by anyone but THEMSELVES. It is their truth and no one else's this is what my argument is about have you not heard the endless theories about stories of the bible are all of them true? Of course not but to the person that created the theory it is true. I also know that movies can be way more metaphorical then songs but I was stating that you are saying that I was oblivious to the obvious in the movie The Godfather. I am once again talking about music in general not just Eminem's.
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby EminemBase » Jun 25th, '11, 04:58

^ Yes I am aware of the fairytales of The Bible.

And if all you were saying is people can believe what they want, in their head... there isn't really much need to say that. It's like when people say taste is subjective... well, yes. We know. It's sort of a given, a self-implied thing.

I was saying his theory was not reality and had no fundamental basis, and that there wasn't any truly valid reasons to think it was true. And you were saying, it's as true as the real story and implying it had just as much chance at being true. Which clearly it doesn't.
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby legokiba213 » Jun 25th, '11, 05:04

EminemBase wrote:^ Yes I am aware of the fairytales of The Bible.

And if all you were saying is people can believe what they want, in their head... there isn't really much need to say that. It's like when people say taste is subjective... well, yes. We know. It's sort of a given, a self-implied thing.

I was saying his theory was not reality and had no fundamental basis, and that there wasn't any truly valid reasons to think it was true. And you were saying, it's as true as the real story and implying it had just as much chance at being true. Which clearly it doesn't.



Well, as said before my opinion. It was real nice talking to you and nice site you have.
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby EminemBase » Jun 25th, '11, 05:08

legokiba213 wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Yes I am aware of the fairytales of The Bible.

And if all you were saying is people can believe what they want, in their head... there isn't really much need to say that. It's like when people say taste is subjective... well, yes. We know. It's sort of a given, a self-implied thing.

I was saying his theory was not reality and had no fundamental basis, and that there wasn't any truly valid reasons to think it was true. And you were saying, it's as true as the real story and implying it had just as much chance at being true. Which clearly it doesn't.


Well, as said before my opinion. It was real nice talking to you and nice site you have.


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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby Chet Starr » Jun 25th, '11, 06:56

Superb video, didn't expect that.

Lmao eminem blew his brains out
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby macdaddy019967 » Jun 25th, '11, 08:20

just seen the video
not bad i was expecting tits but whatever
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby vt_x_spider » Jun 25th, '11, 08:26

They're complete morons if they don't release it officially.
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Re: Spacebound video [IT'S HERE]

Postby J.R. » Jun 25th, '11, 08:32

vt_x_spider wrote:They're complete morons if they don't release it officially.

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