Almostlity wrote:Grow up faggots
EminemInsider wrote:Jesus Christ, HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE?!?!?!?!?!
shadymathers313 wrote:god i miss 2001 Em. hed kick this guys ass for making shit like this.
EminemBase wrote:legokiba213 wrote:I was talking about music in general because Spacebound is ofc about a girl/relationship but it can also be twisted around so it can be about a drug addiction and there is no proving the person who states this wrong because in his head no matter what this song is about a drug addiction and nothing else just like in your mind (and mine) this song is about a relationship.
Yes, in his HEAD he can believe that. How many times do I need to say he / anybody can believe what they want. But that does not make, it, true.
>>Anything<< can be twisted and contrived and talked-up to mean many things. Test me if you like, throw the most simplistic, one-dimensional, obvious piece of music... most obvious painting, picture or anything you like at me and I'll make it into a huge metaphor.
It's easy and anybody can draw any number of conclusions are construct any number of theories. But unless it's clearly the case or can be clearly proven, it is not, the case.
It's not 'in our mind' the song is about the relationship, it's in the lyrics and it's on the screen. Do you not see Eminem and a woman in the video? is than an illusion or in your head? do you not see a woman texting somebody else, as Eminem and this woman sit down in a cafe together? clearly indicating a real-world male / female relationship and a cheating girlfriend.
I'm not making that up, that's not an interpretation, that's the reality of what you see. Unless you want to start changing reality, and perception, and what we know to be true. That's it. And there is no conclusive evidence or reason to believe it's anything more in this case.
So no, it's not in my head. It's the reality that is the case.legokiba213 wrote:I think you are simplifying what I am trying to say into simple things like saying that The Godfather is about an Italian mob family when we are talking about music which is known to have double meanings and metaphors.
Oh so you think "Space Bound" is more complex than The Godfather? you think The Godfather is simple? you've never seen a movie with a double-meaning?
Movies are much more complex than most music what are you talking about. Most songs are a few minutes long so any story that is told needs to be watered down and condensed. Where as a movie can last hours and has a whole world of characters and time to tap into it.
Movies have hundreds of metaphors, constantly layered throughout (The Matrix, Fight Club), being conveyed by characters and themes. You're totally off with that one.
Like I said though, let's take "Stan" then. I would assume you and everybody here would agree that the song is clearly about a crazed fan who kills himself yes? is that a theory or personal interpretation? no, it's what is conveyed CLEARLY through the lyrics and represented through the visuals.
It's the absolute reality of what you hear and see. As is the story in "Space Bound".
If I were to say Stan was a metaphor for Em's troubled past (which in a way you could even say he is, as he shares experiences with Eminem that he relates to and uses as justification for what he does) and that Stan killing himself was Eminem's way of saying his past is gone now, and he's looking forward... would that make it a reality? (and forget the fact Eminem has confirmed the song's meaning, assume he hadn't, as it's not relevant to the point).
Or, would it make it 'just as true' or 'just as possible' as the exact, apparent story that you can clearly conclude from the lyrics and video. Of course not, you can dream up any theory that you like but that does not make it 'just as plausible' as any other, or the obvious reality. As if it's a coin toss.
There's a lot of space between 0% likelihood and 100% likelihood and, if somebody thinks up a theory and it's unfounded, it doesn't immediately become 50/50. There's almost no evidence in favour of any of the theories said her. The obvious, clear-to-see story is equivalent to what you can see happening in "Stan", it's what is apparent through the lyrics, and video.
So, any theory you may think up outside of that, does not automatically become on the same scale of probability as the clearly intended truth you see in front of you.
People are obsessing over arbitrary detail with Eminem and his videos now, and this video and trying to apply meaning or metaphor to every single thing they see in every shot. Where as they don't do that with other artists or even Eminem's older work.
Look at the things that happen throughout the average video, that aren't all explained or just randomly part of a scene or a story. I mean, do you think Dido sitting on the shitter is a metaphor for some profound undertone, or how about Stan's brother's name is Matthew, is that some kind of biblical reference now. You could go on and on and on and make any minor or major thing anything you want and connect a million different things. Doesn't make it real.
EminemBase wrote:^ Yes I am aware of the fairytales of The Bible.
And if all you were saying is people can believe what they want, in their head... there isn't really much need to say that. It's like when people say taste is subjective... well, yes. We know. It's sort of a given, a self-implied thing.
I was saying his theory was not reality and had no fundamental basis, and that there wasn't any truly valid reasons to think it was true. And you were saying, it's as true as the real story and implying it had just as much chance at being true. Which clearly it doesn't.
legokiba213 wrote:EminemBase wrote:^ Yes I am aware of the fairytales of The Bible.
And if all you were saying is people can believe what they want, in their head... there isn't really much need to say that. It's like when people say taste is subjective... well, yes. We know. It's sort of a given, a self-implied thing.
I was saying his theory was not reality and had no fundamental basis, and that there wasn't any truly valid reasons to think it was true. And you were saying, it's as true as the real story and implying it had just as much chance at being true. Which clearly it doesn't.
Well, as said before my opinion. It was real nice talking to you and nice site you have.
vt_x_spider wrote:They're complete morons if they don't release it officially.
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