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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby Mathers » Nov 20th, '11, 20:26

2PointOBoy wrote:Saw this on SL.... Why the fuck is Recovery in the "shit" category, the music on there is the best that the 'new Eminem' can make. This and a bunch of "don't make music like Recovery" #fasnsdown tweets really make me question the credibility of this movement...

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All of BME put in the Shit Can Happen category? :facepalm2
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby Sam. » Nov 20th, '11, 20:35

Exactly.

There's something called "Artistic Independence", it's some thing that every Artist uses to expand and work on his/her creativity.Boundaries for that are set by the Artist themselves and not the Fans. Artist are not limited to that only, they can expand their boundaries to various aspects. So saying that Eminem is unable to expand is utter bullshit and a statement made out of ignorance.

I assume that the so called "Movement" is based on the material put out by other Rappers, comparing two Artist different in style of Rapping is not cohesive at all and won't yield convincing results. In fact the whole comparison thing is meaningless, either enjoy the Music or just move on.
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby EminemBase » Nov 20th, '11, 20:46

Sam. wrote:Exactly.

There's something called "Artistic Independence", it's some thing that every Artist uses to expand and work on his/her creativity.Boundaries for that are set by the Artist themselves and not the Fans. Artist are not limited to that only, they can expand their boundaries to various aspects. So saying that Eminem is unable to expand is utter bullshit and a statement made out of ignorance.

I assume that the so called "Movement" is based on the material put out by other Rappers, comparing two Artist different in style of Rapping is not cohesive at all and won't yield convincing results. In fact the whole comparison thing is meaningless, either enjoy the Music or just move on.


Well you can't help what you like or don't like, so I'd never tell anybody to 'just like' something if they intuitively don't. Taste is truly subjective in the sense it's individually immediate...

But what's the point in bitching about things you don't like. These fucking retards go on about how much they don't give a shit about Eminem any more, yet they're dedicating their lives to a 'movement' declaring it? lmfao. Clearly they do care.

If you don't like his new stuff, listen to his old stuff and stfu.
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby Sam. » Nov 20th, '11, 20:57

You can step up and raise your voice when an Artist like Eminem put's out a single average song and under the same notion these guys have nothing to say for Artist's like Solja Boy, Gucci Mane..Lil Wayne??!! Instead they blindly support these Rappers, this explains the mental state of these idiots.

I don't have words to say to these worthless, so called Rap Fans. They should be ashamed to mock such an Artist who is helping in saving the grace of the "Art Form".
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby mareble412 » Nov 20th, '11, 21:03

Sam. wrote:You can step up and raise your voice when an Artist like Eminem put's out a single average song and under the same notion these guys have nothing to say for Artist's like Solja Boy, Gucci Mane..Lil Wayne??!! Instead they blindly support these Rappers, this explains the mental state of these idiots.

I don't have words to say to these worthless, so called Rap Fans. They should be ashamed to mock such an Artist who is helping in saving the grace of the "Art Form".


^Exactly. They are not hip-hop. they are people who say "I dont like Hip-Hop, but I listen to Eminem." SMDH.
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby _Hawk_ » Nov 20th, '11, 21:25

EminemBase wrote: ... These fucking retards go on about how much they don't give a shit about Eminem any more, yet they're dedicating their lives to a 'movement' declaring it? lmfao. Clearly they do care.

If you don't like his new stuff, listen to his old stuff and stfu.


Exactly, well said :y:

The 'stan' word gets thrown around a lot in circumstances like this, but let's dissect it. A Stan is, effectively, a 'stalker-fan'; in this case anyone who likes Em enough to write to him everyday, follow everything that he ever does, knows his whole life story, and attempts to make contact with him could be placed in this category with little debate.
In reality, the term applies to anyone who has most of Em's discography in their iTunes, and who listens to him and talks about him a lot. The boring part aside, this movement is a hypocritical joke. They claim, as EminemBase clearly states, that they don't give a shit about him and aren't stans, but look at the extremes they are going to to reach out to him! They're writing letters (most of which look like they were written by an epileptic down syndrome with Parkinson's disease), and getting spastically creative and arty in the process. In Stan, Stan loved Eminem so much he ended up killing his pregnant girlfriend. This movement have gotten so worked up, they're creating websites and acting like they are on some fucking jihad. They are the stans; so discontent with the artist they used to know and love, that they are doing everything they possibly can to bring him back to their Utopian reality.
They may claim that the stans are the people that sit back and seemingly allow Em to make this music? As EminemBase and others have rightly pointed out, what level of influence do they think we should have over Em? You don't tell an artist to change his style to suit the mood of a handful of internet nerds who have probably never touched a proper pair of tits in their life. They're a fucking mess. If it wasn't for Koolo having leaked some pretty poor Eminem tracks, their movement would have no credible direction.
It's so sick you could almost make a Stan-part 2 out of it (which would be bloody cheesy, but there you go).

I could easily write a whole essay on how ridiculous their movement is, but I really don't see the point in lowering myself to their ridiculously outlandish, freakishly geakish standards.. Take Koolo's most recent topic at Studio-Leaks (the Intervention of whatever it's called). Claiming he's smart, yet he writes like a dyslexic 13-year old who's sucking on her uncles cock.

It's not a question of dismantling their movement. That would be easy to do. It's more of a question of realising how ridiculous it is; in reality you'd be wasting your time and fueling their ego's. To end the comparisons, it's like telling your little kid with Parkinson's that he will grow up to be the best break-dancer in the world. You'd be hard pressed to stop the fucker when he starts, and when he's finished you sit back and realise how ridiculous it really is.
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby Trimss » Nov 20th, '11, 21:33

I can't believe Koolo is really that dumb. I can't really believe someone is actually that mentally retarded, it makes me wanna throw up. And all his dickriders too.

He is comparing two GOAT songs, with different content to a TI feature and a BME "random-funny-session" track? He is comparing one of I-T best song to a fucking feature? How can someone that old be so fucking stupid?

Damn! I'm really impressed by the stupidity he displays, If he didn't ban me I would've post in that thread comparing his little peanut sized brain to a normal one.

Déjà Vu and Going Through Changes are both classic. In term of MC-ing, Welcome 2 Hell is an amazing song. They want content on a BME EP? LMAO Everyone was bashing Lighters because it was a meaningful song and "it doesn't suit their craziness" or whatever. And now they want meaningful songs.

He's such a dumb attention looking whore, it's not even funny. I hope someone throw a dynamite or two in his house.
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby cityfan31 » Nov 20th, '11, 23:22

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Sam. wrote:Hah! Never mind, we were thinking that if you could right an Article dismantling everything that is mentioned in the Website created by Kollo, then would use it against them, then again the move seems to give this stupid movement a boost.


Well it's retarded from the get-go as the very 'movement' or statement makes the assumption that an artist owes his fans and also that an artists' particular fans at any given moment is permanently attached to him/her, or eternally linked through taste.

Any true artist should always evolve as Eminem always has and if that's the case... the people who like the music are likely to change too. Obviously some fans will evolve with the artist or like the evolution they see the artist go through and their taste will adapt...

But this idea that Eminem exists in a bubble or that what he does can be defined and if he isn't doing what his original fans determine suited to that definition then he has let them down is just, absurd. It's childish, wishful, ridiculous and self-centred. Unfortunately Eminem made his only major misstep as an artist (not as in, he hadn't ever made a bad song) and fucked his integrity for me a bit when he listened to the reaction from Relapse, and then made Recovery.

Any artist that does that has now lost their way. They've lost touch with why they're doing what they're doing and are no longer doing it for themselves.

Eminem doesn't owe anybody shit. If you dislike what he does, you're no longer a fan of his new music, it's not that he's let 'you' down as he shouldn't ever be aiming at 'you' anyway. He should make it for himself, as every artist should. If what he makes for himself no longer suits you, you're no longer an Eminem fan as that's now what Eminem is.


This is what I meant by dismantle it, although it's not exactly difficult.

You're completely right.

I loved the first sentence that Koolo gave: 'Some of us don't give a fuck about Eminem anymore, but....'

Aye, that's why you're wasting your time on this :laughing: because you just don't care.
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby momentsgolden » Nov 21st, '11, 00:25

Trshady is full of hypocrites. #justsaying
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby Mathers » Nov 21st, '11, 00:43

momentsgolden wrote:Trshady is full of hypocrites. #justsaying

And why's that?
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby JamaicanPattlez » Nov 21st, '11, 02:10

Amadeo wrote:Apparently Eminem responded to this movement by paying someone in Saudi Arabia to murder Koolo's camel.

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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby momentsgolden » Nov 21st, '11, 05:09

Mathers wrote:
momentsgolden wrote:Trshady is full of hypocrites. #justsaying

And why's that?


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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby noggerton » Nov 21st, '11, 07:49

Amadeo wrote:Apparently Eminem responded to this movement by paying someone in Saudi Arabia to murder Koolo's camel.

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This is single handedly the most awkward post on TR shady.
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Mad cause you're website's named after a dude who pissed in the studio by a mistake ? lmao

You should get back right now cause they're fail trolls are calling for their fail king, you dick sucking sack of cunts


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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby cityfan31 » Nov 21st, '11, 08:42

noggerton wrote:
Amadeo wrote:Apparently Eminem responded to this movement by paying someone in Saudi Arabia to murder Koolo's camel.

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This is single handedly the most awkward post on TR shady.


not really, now fuck off back to SL.
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Re: Koolo's "You Let The Fans Down Movement" On SL

Postby Mathers » Nov 21st, '11, 11:46

momentsgolden wrote:
Mathers wrote:
momentsgolden wrote:Trshady is full of hypocrites. #justsaying

And why's that?


viewtopic.php?f=3&t=115735

I forgot about this thread.
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