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Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby VenomBlackViper » Jun 7th, '11, 20:11

So i've listened to this EP countless times now. I gotta say I like it for the most part. However it does have one major flaw I gotta address: The lacking lyrics.

Now everything else on this EP was great. Great production, great hooks, great flow & great delivery. If this album was only about sound it would be great because it does sound great. However all of that is fine & dandy but the lyrics are seriously lacking for the most part. This is Relapse all over again minus the accent. They tried re creating the earlier BME & failed at it. That Die Hard line on Welcome 2 Hell was seriously horrible, I remember we had a thread about it before where we made up lines that were exactly like the line Em used. For random people on a forum to make up lines similar to if not better than one a world renowned rapper uses is just bad.

Constant shit/bitch/ho references & almost none of them witty at all. Granted he had some lines which I genuinely liked such as the Nicki one, give me head or i'ma take it, I said I CUNT!!!!, & a few others there were still a ton of bad ones in there.

Another problem I have is how Royce adds almost NOTHING to this EP besides filler. He's awkward as fuck on some tracks too like The Reunion. I saw a comment on YouTube praising his "theres 5 things you're good for, sucking a dick x5" line & I proceeded to facepalm. That line was horribly lazy & unfunny.

With all of this said though I still enjoyed the EP. Nothing classic but it's an enjoyable listen nonetheless.

Now gonna rate each track in the order that I like them:

1. The Reunion: 6/10

Closest we got to classic Shady this entire EP. Loved the "I cunt" line & thought it was pretty creative, especially for 2011 Eminem. His storytelling on this is pretty funny & reminiscent of the Shady that got me into Eminem. This would have gotten a higher score if Royce wasn't so awkward "I see my evil twin, he hugs my wife :facepalm " However I gotta give him credit for "you just used the word swagger so no" i'll admit that cracks me up.

2. Above The Law: 5.5/10

Great beat & hook here. I for one enjoyed Ems shouting on this track, it fit the beat & mood perfectly. Admittedly I kinda like that "if I hate water sprinklers I don't love the hoes" line even though it's pretty bad & not something i'd ever write. Just the way he says it I guess. Royce is completely forgettable on here as is the case with most of the EP.

3. A Kiss 5.3/10

Kinda a poor mans version of The Reunion with the same theme just not as good. Still liked it though, the Gaga line was kinda clever but not anything mindblowing. However i'm loving the reception & controversy it's getting. Royce with more try hard, awkward lines here. Already expressed my thoughts about the "sucking a dick x5" line

4. Loud Noises 5/10

Honestly not seeing the hate for this song at all. Everyone went hard as fuck here besides Budden who was mediocre. I liked Eminems squirting lemon juice in the public eye line, that was some legit creative shit. Joell was fucking insane on this song.

5. Welcome 2 Hell 4/10

This would have been number 3 if not for the HORRIBLE Eminem punchlines. The beat on this song was amazing, something I would rap over myself. However this beat was molested by the horrible, un horrorcore like lyrics in it. Such horrible punchlines as "Eat shitstains out of my underwear I don't even wear" "So cold I froze my butt off" & that Die Hard punchline that was so bad it could have been mistaken for a parody line made up on here. Royce was forgettable as usual. This song only gets a 4 due to beat, delivery & flow. Nothing else.

6. Take From Me 4/10

Right under Welcome 2 Hell. I'm glad Eminem made a song about the leaks as we all wanted & it's not even that bad really. However he didn't even really call anyone out in particular or anything & more just talked about how hard he works & all that shit. Also why was Royce on here? No one gives a fuck about his leaks. :laughing:

7. Fast Lane 4/10

This song would have been better suited for Royce alone, the beat & hook are more his style than Ems. No real complaints with Royce on this one he was actually pretty good. I liked Ems give me head or i'ma take it & Nicki Minaj lines. Aside from that nothing really stands out

8. I'm On Everything 3.5/10

A song about drugs that gives me the feeling of a failed version of These Drugs or Drug Ballad. Both sides come mediocre on this song besides one good multi scheme from Eminem & you can probably guess what it is. He tried being creative with those pasta references but it mostly failed & that shit to the plate line was just :facepalm . Also i'd like to add that the hook was horrible.

9. Lighters 3/10

And now finally for the turd on the plate. While I have dislike towards this song for the hook & beat that's not my real issue here. This song achieved nothing on Eminems part. He literally rapped about NOTHING while grasping at trying to be emotional. I find it very hypocritical that he was calling out some random person for saying they quit drugs yet still do it when on the very same EP he raps about doing drugs (granted the song was mediocre too but that doesn't change the intention). Royce was better than Eminem on this track & seemed to have gotten the idea of the song. I never, ever had a problem with the screaming before but dawg cmon, why are you screaming over this beat of all things? Also cock backwards is not still cock it's kcoc & would be pronounced "ksock". To say something positive though I did kind of like the "I came with 5 9 but I feel 6 8" line.

Bonus tracks:

Not including these up there with the others but here's short ratings for both

Echo: 5/10

Great beat & hook. Pretty good lines from both Eminem & Royce this time around. Nothing that stands out as great or as horrible.

Living Proof: 3/10

Honestly this song is very forgettable to me, I hardly remember it even exists. Mediocre lines from both sides.
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jun 7th, '11, 20:12

Venom's review disappoints me. :'(
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby Satire » Jun 7th, '11, 20:14

I actually liked Venom's review. His ratings were pretty similar to mine.

Edit: He even said Fast Lane should have been a Royce-solo song. We should just have intercourse, right here, right now.
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby One Mic » Jun 7th, '11, 20:17

xxTrigger1989xx wrote:Venom's review disappoints me. :'(

Sounds like an old professor marking an English paper tbh. Can't stand those type of rap fans, it's nearly always white middle class males who do that sort of shit.

I don't give a fuck about lyrics. Does it sound good, that's all I care about.

If Eminem was writing lyrics for a book only, that is when you need to worry about lyrics so much.

THIS IS AUDIO. Let it go
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby VenomBlackViper » Jun 7th, '11, 20:19

One Mic wrote:
xxTrigger1989xx wrote:Venom's review disappoints me. :'(

Sounds like an old professor marking an English paper tbh. Can't stand those type of rap fans, it's nearly always white middle class males who do that sort of shit.

I don't give a fuck about lyrics. Does it sound good, that's all I care about.

If Eminem was writing lyrics for a book only, that is when you need to worry about lyrics so much.

THIS IS AUDIO. Let it go

I POP THE GAT FAM
LEAVE YA GUTS LEAKIN BLAAD
REAL GRIME SHIT
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby JasonOne99 » Jun 7th, '11, 20:20

Almostlity wrote:That's his problem nowadays.. He's trying to please everybody.

What do you mean?
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby Master Chief » Jun 7th, '11, 20:21

I cannot believe Venom doesn't like Welcome 2 Hell. That right there is a hoax. Impossible. Uh-uh. Nope. No.

That song is perfect. Plus, he actually made that Die Hard punchline work by being very descriptive plus his energy was insane there. Why doesn't anyone realize that this is the best song of all time? :'(
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby One Mic » Jun 7th, '11, 20:24

VenomBlackViper wrote:I POP THE GAT FAM
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I don't know what you mean, but I don't give a shit about lyrics tbh. It's music. It's entertainment.

Lose Yourself, The Way I Am, Renegade, Till I Collapse and Sing For The Moment are amongst my fav Eminem songs of all time. Do you consider those some of his lyrical best?

^ If you do, I guess I like those songs above because it's good music to listen to. The lyrics thing is a coincidence.

I know Rock Bottom is mentioned a lot, but I don't like it as a song. Lyrically good though.

Just proves how I value good sounding music as opposed to lyrics alone.
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby Satire » Jun 7th, '11, 20:25

One Mic wrote:
VenomBlackViper wrote:I POP THE GAT FAM
LEAVE YA GUTS LEAKIN BLAAD
REAL GRIME SHIT


I don't know what you mean, but I don't give a shit about lyrics tbh. It's music. It's entertainment.

Lose Yourself, The Way I Am, Renegade, Till I Collapse and Sing For The Moment are amongst my fav Eminem songs of all time. Do you consider those some of his lyrical best?

^ If you do, I guess I like those songs above because it's good music to listen to. The lyrics thing is a coincidence.

I know Rock Bottom is mentioned a lot, but I don't like it as a song. Lyrically good though.

Just proves how I value good sounding music as opposed to lyrics alone.


You are way too obvious now a days. It's like you don't give a shit anymore.
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby One Mic » Jun 7th, '11, 20:26

All I'm saying is lyrics are not that important when it comes to judging good music, people act like it's everything. Just confuses me as to why people are so obsessed with that shit on this forum?
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby VenomBlackViper » Jun 7th, '11, 20:27

JasonOne99 wrote:
Almostlity wrote:That's his problem nowadays.. He's trying to please everybody.

What do you mean?

He's like that a slut getting gangbanged basically.


Master Chief wrote:I cannot believe Venom doesn't like Welcome 2 Hell. That right there is a hoax. Impossible. Uh-uh. Nope. No.

That song is perfect. Plus, he actually made that Die Hard punchline work by being very descriptive plus his energy was insane there. Why doesn't anyone realize that this is the best song of all time? :'(


That's actually something that a lot of people think makes a good punchline but doesn't. Being descriptive = / = a good punchline.

It's like your piss in a toilet bowl left there for days cuz you ain't shit

I was being descriptive there, does that make it a good punchline? No.
The Die Hard line is in contention for the worst on that album. If it was not there I would have given the song a 4.5, if that one line was gone. You have no idea how much I want to like that song due to the beat, delivery & flow but the shitty lines (pun intended) keep me from doing so.
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jun 7th, '11, 20:31

One Mic wrote:
xxTrigger1989xx wrote:Venom's review disappoints me. :'(

Sounds like an old professor marking an English paper tbh. Can't stand those type of rap fans, it's nearly always white middle class males who do that sort of shit.

I don't give a fuck about lyrics. Does it sound good, that's all I care about.

If Eminem was writing lyrics for a book only, that is when you need to worry about lyrics so much.

THIS IS AUDIO. Let it go


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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby VenomBlackViper » Jun 7th, '11, 20:31

One Mic wrote:
VenomBlackViper wrote:I POP THE GAT FAM
LEAVE YA GUTS LEAKIN BLAAD
REAL GRIME SHIT


I don't know what you mean, but I don't give a shit about lyrics tbh. It's music. It's entertainment.

Lose Yourself, The Way I Am, Renegade, Till I Collapse and Sing For The Moment are amongst my fav Eminem songs of all time. Do you consider those some of his lyrical best?

^ If you do, I guess I like those songs above because it's good music to listen to. The lyrics thing is a coincidence.

I know Rock Bottom is mentioned a lot, but I don't like it as a song. Lyrically good though.

Just proves how I value good sounding music as opposed to lyrics alone.


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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby Master Chief » Jun 7th, '11, 20:37

VenomBlackViper wrote:That's actually something that a lot of people think makes a good punchline but doesn't. Being descriptive = / = a good punchline.

It's like your piss in a toilet bowl left there for days cuz you ain't shit

I was being descriptive there, does that make it a good punchline? No.
The Die Hard line is in contention for the worst on that album. If it was not there I would have given the song a 4.5, if that one line was gone. You have no idea how much I want to like that song due to the beat, delivery & flow but the shitty lines (pun intended) keep me from doing so.

No, not like that, Blockhead.

Eminem described about 5 ways to "Die Hard" in about 2-4 bars. Makes it better than it would be if he said "I die hard like Bruce Willis" or "I die hard like I'm watching porn". It's still not a good line though, I just like his energy.

Welcome 2 Hell > Nuttin' To Do :coffee:
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Re: Bad Meets Evil : Hell The Sequel full EP! - THE LEAK!

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jun 7th, '11, 20:39

LOL @ venom's review.

im sorry nikka but that was pure dumbshit.

LOL @ what u think of welcome 2 hell.
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