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Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Sla » May 25th, '11, 07:29

Underground is one of the best songs on Relapse, but I'm with 25 To Life. A better theme, a deeper and more relevant song.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby buffalo bill » May 25th, '11, 10:47

I made a song this morning about taking a shit. About the great feeling you get when the shit is just about right in terms of shape and consistency, and about that shitty (yes I incorporated some wordplay to make it even better) feeling you get when the shit is just.. wrong.... and when you wipe your ass you never seem to get completely clean and you have fecal matter stuck in your ass hair and you get shit on your fingers and you realize that it's going to be a horrible day. I'm sure all of you can relate to that.

It's not a masterpiece, I admit it, but it's at least better than Underground.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby King Bullet » May 25th, '11, 11:15

Are motherfuckers really that stupid to think that ''25 to life'' is a song bout illuminati???!!! :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm2 I'm cringing every-fuckin'-time someone says that...it makes me want to punch a fucker in his face for being that stupid! :angry: I think y'all can relate to that,being alergic to stupid shit... :whistle:
At least I know that I don't know...question is: are you bozos smart enough to feel stupid?!-hope so!!!
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » May 25th, '11, 11:47

shady buc wrote:
Amadeo wrote:
xxTrigger1989xx wrote:25 To Life is without a doubt better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something

'Cause we all know that if a song is about something, it must be good.

Mockingbird is without a doubt better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
GOAT is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
Puke is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
Mosh is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
The Apple is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.



mockingbird,GOAT,The Apple>underground,


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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Bistnal » May 25th, '11, 15:39

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:
shady buc wrote:
Amadeo wrote:'Cause we all know that if a song is about something, it must be good.

Mockingbird is without a doubt better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
GOAT is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
Puke is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
Mosh is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
The Apple is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.



mockingbird,GOAT,The Apple>underground,


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Like you :p lol
But some do provide good entertainment
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Jim_Halpert » May 26th, '11, 01:11

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:
shady buc wrote:
Amadeo wrote:'Cause we all know that if a song is about something, it must be good.

Mockingbird is without a doubt better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
GOAT is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
Puke is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
Mosh is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.
The Apple is better than Underground, it's actually ABOUT something.



mockingbird,GOAT,The Apple>underground,


:laughing: :laughing:

i hate ignorant stans.

how am i a stan? most stans think underground is some kinda masterpiece and a great track. its not...its lyrically one of his WORST tracks.

the 3 i listed are faaaar superior than underground. especially the apple
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Scrubz » May 26th, '11, 14:20

M-Pyre wrote:
shady buc wrote:
M-Pyre wrote:lol, underground of course. 25 to life was horribly executed.

no multies what so ever and half way through the song I already knew what he was talking about.

"go marry someone else and make em famous"

yeah... like kim made him famous

horrible song !


lol at no multis being an argument, 25-life lyrics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>undergrounds.

who gives a fuck bout multis, if content is horrible...hard taco, eloping with can openers, prosthetic arms, triple fat goose? ya, vintage SSLP/MMLP eminem right there :rofl:

yes cause eminem is being considered as one of the best rappers to have ever existed.

having good multies whiles being able to tell a grasping and vivid story is crucial to this aspect. sure, raw emotion is up there to but I know what I'd rather pick. luckily for me eminem does both of them most of the time. or at least in the 1999 - 2003 era.

underground was paying tribute to the old slimshady character by adding random things to the mix

and ow yeah, just blaze did a horrible job on the beat to. the chorus is good tho.

You a fucktard missing a brain, first of all it aint about kim, second of all it aint all about multi's on every track. 3rd of all dj kalil produceed the the track and that shits baggin. And i dont know what fucking story you get out of underground, ill i hear is a bunch of random ass shit mixed in with movie characters. 25 to life any day of the week because its one of his best since his come back, not to mention an emotional track which he had not done since beautiful.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Scrubz » May 26th, '11, 14:22

mockingbird,GOAT,The Apple>underground,


:laughing: :laughing:

i hate ignorant stans.
how am i a stan? most stans think underground is some kinda masterpiece and a great track. its not...its lyrically one of his WORST tracks.

the 3 i listed are faaaar superior than underground. especially the apple

goat is shit. Though I agree I prefer tracks that are about real shit, but that dosent make it automatically better, like goat. Im embarassed for em when i listen to it. It's like one big run on sentence about how great he is, and at the time he was no goat.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby OneDream_89 » May 26th, '11, 16:01

buffalo bill wrote:I made a song this morning about taking a shit. About the great feeling you get when the shit is just about right in terms of shape and consistency, and about that shitty (yes I incorporated some wordplay to make it even better) feeling you get when the shit is just.. wrong.... and when you wipe your ass you never seem to get completely clean and you have fecal matter stuck in your ass hair and you get shit on your fingers and you realize that it's going to be a horrible day. I'm sure all of you can relate to that.

It's not a masterpiece, I admit it, but it's at least better than Underground.


:shifty:

25 to Life >>> Underground, fo shôo! All the reasons have been said
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby M-Pyre » May 26th, '11, 16:50

You a fucktard missing a brain, first of all it aint about kim, second of all it aint all about multi's on every track. 3rd of all dj kalil produceed the the track and that shits baggin. And i dont know what fucking story you get out of underground, ill i hear is a bunch of random ass shit mixed in with movie characters. 25 to life any day of the week because its one of his best since his come back, not to mention an emotional track which he had not done since beautiful.


wow, look what the cat dragged in. an emotional fan boohoo

1) it's supposed to make you think it's about kim. who else? mariah? illuminatie?? lmfao you ignorant fuck.

2) if you wanna be considered good then you gotta have multi's.. why you think lots of people (mostly hiphop heads) don't like the lights of mockingbird or when I'm gone.. or any of the leaked king mathers songs? idiot.

3) same difference. it's still a shitty beat. excuse me for being misinformed.

4) almost all of the songs (before blowing up) post infinite, half of the slimshady LP, the real slimshady, Under the Influence, I'm back, criminal, without me, my dads gone crazy etc are just a bunch of random shit mixed in. and guess what.. their all better then 25 to life.

5) nu komt de aap uit de mouw.. the only reason why you think it's better is because it's emotional.. and eminem hasn't done much of them lately.. yeah, good reason (sarcasme)
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby DanWS2 » May 26th, '11, 17:35

25 to life is much much much better
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Alex2012 » May 26th, '11, 22:24

xxTrigger1989xx wrote:
Alex2012 wrote:Underground :y: my favorite song on Relapse

the punchlines are better
the voice is better
the lyrics are better
the music is better


* 25 To Life isn't a punchline song, and Underground's punchlines are pathetic, I'd rather take a Recovery punchline that actually makes sense than any of Underground's nonsensical ones any day
* The voice is better, you're right
* Lyrics are not better, you must be confusing lyricism (which is the actual content) with rhymes, because Underground's LYRICS are fucking horrible. The rhymes are decent enough
* I don't agree, I enjoy listening to 25 To Life


yes best lyrics for me, and I'm not talking about lyricism, but of words, because I search a little to understand the song, I had to analyze it, go to websites that give some explanations, because as English is not my native language it's even harder to understand the meaning of expressions and metaphors. :sweating:

His stay in rehab and how he talks about it, I liked, and yet at first I didn't like this song.
For 25 to Life, it was much simpler to understand for me and I'm not saying I hate this song, but I find it less powerful, that's what I feel...


But if it was Underground vs Music Box, I chose MB
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby Trimss » May 26th, '11, 22:29

M-Pyre wrote:
You a fucktard missing a brain, first of all it aint about kim, second of all it aint all about multi's on every track. 3rd of all dj kalil produceed the the track and that shits baggin. And i dont know what fucking story you get out of underground, ill i hear is a bunch of random ass shit mixed in with movie characters. 25 to life any day of the week because its one of his best since his come back, not to mention an emotional track which he had not done since beautiful.


wow, look what the cat dragged in. an emotional fan boohoo

1) it's supposed to make you think it's about kim. who else? mariah? illuminatie?? lmfao you ignorant fuck.

2) if you wanna be considered good then you gotta have multi's.. why you think lots of people (mostly hiphop heads) don't like the lights of mockingbird or when I'm gone.. or any of the leaked king mathers songs? idiot.

3) same difference. it's still a shitty beat. excuse me for being misinformed.

4) almost all of the songs (before blowing up) post infinite, half of the slimshady LP, the real slimshady, Under the Influence, I'm back, criminal, without me, my dads gone crazy etc are just a bunch of random shit mixed in. and guess what.. their all better then 25 to life.

5) nu komt de aap uit de mouw.. the only reason why you think it's better is because it's emotional.. and eminem hasn't done much of them lately.. yeah, good reason (sarcasme)



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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby MikeNUFC » May 26th, '11, 23:20

What the hell are people on about?! Underground is about nothing?!

Underground is 100x more creative than the shitty concept of 25 To Life that took Eminem all of 2 mins to think off - Common did in 1994 for fucks sake.

Underground is him rapping as an underground artist - full of random spitting for the sake of it (see: Hip Hop Shop days) intertwined with clever bits of storytelling which link up nicely. Sounds like Almost Famous, right? A concept that's plauded the fuck out of.

Eminem as an underground artist calling for Dre to sign him:
"Dre, I'm down here under the ground, pick me up"


Eminem finding the Slim Shady persona (he thought of Shady on the toilet didnt he? Close enough) after all that random spitting:
"Slim Shady, shit sounds like a fable to me/Until he jumps out of the fucking toilet when you're taking a pee."

Coming back up from the "underground" i.e. from his hiatus. Simple double meaning. Using the title in two ways:

Glad bags, yeah glad to be back, cause last year was a tragedy
That landed me smack dead in rehab
Fucking doctor, I didn't understand a damn that he said
I planned to relapse the second I walked out of that bitch
Two weeks in brighton, I ain't enlightened


Summing up the crazy random theme of the album:
That means is just a regular day/ and this is the kind of shit I think of a regular lay

Pretty self explanatory:
Tell the critics I'm back and coming/to spit it back in abundance

Then the rest of the verse is more random spitting, attacking horror characters, that he starts in the previous verse and is the theme that he uses throughout the song. Didn't he get addicted to watching horror films when he got clean? Makese sense.

Underground is the PERFECT song to end Relapse as it sums up the album in many ways: using seemingly random violence/serial killing as a veil for his drug problems. As hiphopdane says Em said before that he uses the last track to sum up the album and this is no exception.
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Re: Better song, 25 to Life or Underground

Postby HereHere » May 26th, '11, 23:39

25 To Life. I've never liked Underground, one of my least favourite songs on the album.
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