How could Eminem be controversial on his new album?

[Wreck]

He won't but he could diss Hopsin for an example , that he copies his style. I know he won't do it because he respects good rappers but still.

That would be stupid. Hopsin is a younger Eminem, but obviously never will be as good as Em, especially in certain areas. I think Em totally respects & enjoys Hopsin's music too, so this would be surprising if he took a jab at him/dissed him on record.

Off-topic but congrats on 1k posts Emshady2.

I would agree with you, Eminem will not diss Hopsin, because Hopsin has not dissed him. he won't go after him for no reason. Thats not like Em.

Exactly. If you look back in his career, no matter the year/era in it, he only dissed people if:

01. They talked shit in interviews, or on record first, unless he had a bad face to face vibe w/ someone, see the Everlast beef (that was Everlast's problem though, not Em's).

or

02. He felt the media was comparing him to pop artist's, just because of the color of his skin, & records sold, in the beginning of his career, so he dissed artists like NSYNC, the BSB, Britney Spears, & Christina, but obviously there were other issues w/ the Christina shit.

Royce said shit, Moby said shit, Cage I don't know much about that beef except it was small, but I bet Em didn't really instigate/start that fight/beef, Benzino said a lot of shit, & unfairly, & in poor taste underrated Em's albums in the Source reviews, etc.

[Emadyville]

^ thats a good point, I mean em poked fun and made fun of a lotta people that never said anything about him but yeah I think in terms of beefing it was him responding, even tho in a sense i feel like he couldnt take it if someone was trying to be funny he'd take it personal, when he doesnt go with others trying to be funny about him...at least back in the day

[Blu]

the question is should he be controversial?

[Wreck]

^ thats a good point, I mean em poked fun and made fun of a lotta people that never said anything about him but yeah I think in terms of beefing it was him responding, even tho in a sense i feel like he couldnt take it if someone was trying to be funny he'd take it personal, when he doesnt go with others trying to be funny about him...at least back in the day

Yeah it's kinda ridiculous, but if they make fun of his daughter, he really goes ballistic, & rightfully so.

the question is should he be controversial?

I don't think he will be though, & lol @ your new avy.

[Robbie G]

Why does he have to be controversial? I feel like any attempt to be just for the hell of it at this point will be looked at as corny.

He needs to evolve as an artist, this isn't the early 2000's.

[Emadyville]

Why does he have to be controversial? I feel like any attempt to be just for the hell of it at this point will be looked at as corny.

He needs to evolve as an artist, this isn't the early 2000's.

actually a great point, but i guess we just assume he will try to be as he always has/has tried to be.

[Wreck]

Why does he have to be controversial? I feel like any attempt to be just for the hell of it at this point will be looked at as corny.

He needs to evolve as an artist, this isn't the early 2000's.

Yeah definitely forcing shit, & putting himself into unnecessary beefs will look corny, & well, unnecessary, like for example, that fag Canibus dissing J. Cole for no reason, except for the fact that he couldn't take that Cole was a big fan of his, & had to open his big fuckin mouth. Hope Em, & I doubt he will, doesn't do this, even to the lightest extent.

& totally agree about the last line as well . People need to realize that, the sooner the better, this isn't elementary school anymore for the older rappers.

Why does he have to be controversial? I feel like any attempt to be just for the hell of it at this point will be looked at as corny.

He needs to evolve as an artist, this isn't the early 2000's.

actually a great point, but i guess we just assume he will try to be as he always has/has tried to be.

See though, I think he's changed tremendously as he's gotten older/since his recovery period/the last couple of years. You would never see him put out a record like Crack A Bottle, back in the '98/99-03 era, & nowadays we probably won't see him doing a record to the magnitude of Kim or Kill You either.

[CrashBand]

He could talk about fucking his daughter

Orrrr

he could actually kill someone and rap about it

[Wreck]

He could talk about Wreck fucking his daughter.

Fixed.

[EminemBase]

He could be controversial by not being controversial.

Seriously though, the point of Em was never to be a shock artist. The Slim Shady LP was provocative, but abstract - The Marshall Mathers LP was reactive, and conceptual - The Eminem Show, was reflective. And those three are three of the most incredible, successive hip-hop albums in a row. Em's self-awareness, and self-deprecation, are always what set him apart.

If controversy is an upshot then great, but I just want originality.

[CrashBand]

the question is should he be controversial?

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The OP explicitly stated he didn't agree with being controversial for the sake of it. He was just asking what's some fucked up shit he could say to be controversial.

[Eedee]

He's gonna make a joke about the Dark Knight shootings now probably. Maybe even an extended roleplay like the Criminal skit but in rap form. Like 6+ bars going on and on about it. Sounds like something he'd do.

[_Hawk_]

He could be controversial by not being controversial.

Seriously though, the point of Em was never to be a shock artist. The Slim Shady LP was provocative, but abstract - The Marshall Mathers LP was reactive, and conceptual - The Eminem Show, was reflective. And those three are three of the most incredible, successive hip-hop albums in a row. Em's self-awareness, and self-deprecation, are always what set him apart.

If controversy is an upshot then great, but I just want originality.

The point of Em when he started out was to make a name for himself: largely this was through shock value which was a useful subsidiary to the content of his lyrics. The 'Zoe/bitch' skit from the Slim Shady LP demonstrates this perfectly. As does a large majority of the content from the following Marshall Mathers LP. Em wasn't necessarily aiming to be shocking, but he wasn't relenting in cleaning up his albums.
He was (perhaps still is) a shock artist. The point that needs to be remembered is that when the shocks are at the forefront of his work, he isn't always successful. Relapse is a shock album but there is such a plethora of shocking imagery it becomes almost tame, boring and - compounded by the accent - almost unlistenable when first hearing the album.

Originality is what he needs, but you fail to appeciate that whilst Relapse was completely original, it didn't exactly prove successful, whereas in Recovery he went for themes similar to TES which worked. Now as fans we learn to appreciate his albums for the content and lyricism (amongst other things) and Relapse is actually a very good piece of work. The point is that for Eminem to make a classic, provoke potential controversy or be original, he has to produce an album - like his first three - which show a progression of styles and an ability to test the waters with his content, whilst making tracks which stand-out as moments of Genius. It's been a while since I've heard a track comparable to Stan in terms of execution and artistic brilliant. That, Eminembase, is originality in the best form, and something which Eminem has struggled to match. And it focused around a controversial subject as well.

[Man1x]

the question is should he be controversial?

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[Sam.]

the question is should he be controversial?

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Word. Like controversy made Eminem what he is in the first place.