Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

[AmmoHaze]

Feel me Base?

I feel no particular reason to argue, I'm just saying what I think.

It's all for fun anyway; and we're all just observing. We'll see what happens.

Imagine someone dissed Dear Mama or Changes by 2pac on a 2pac board 2pac fans wouldn't allow it some prefer 2pac's Gangster style records such as California Love over the deep materiall but even they wouldn't allow songs so important to pac as a person a Atrtis be disrespected.


Eminem fans here too passive on this board

[rapaddict92]

^ wtf this argument is idiotic no offense.

[AmmoHaze]

why you need to bring ''name'' and Jay-Z (again) to the debate tbh? i dont get it

His trolling and obvious undercover hate for Eminem stanning for Jay Z made me angry just seeing the passive approach of Em fans on here amazed me. him and that other cat Almosty or whatever he called.



We all Eminem fans some like Rock BOttom and define listening to Eminem for that experience some like Welcome 2 Hell and define lisrening to his persona for that experience.


Either way we all still fans of the same person that creates both styles. Those that like 1 style have their reasons and vice versa that's life mcdonalds sell big macs but also mchicken sandwich some people go there to eat the mac some eat the mchicken sandwich but it's the same comnpany making both products.

[EminemBase]

Imagine someone dissed Dear Mama or Changes by 2pac on a 2pac board 2pac fans wouldn't allow it some prefer 2pac's Gangster style records such as California Love over the deep materiall but even they wouldn't allow songs so important to pac as a person a Atrtis be disrespected.


Eminem fans here too passive on this board

You keep implying Em's introspective content is 'deep'.

Introspective content could be defined as the least 'deep' content as it's the most immediate thing on-tap: your emotions. Your emotions may delve deep or could be contrived of and analyzed in a deep way, but Eminem's creative material is way deeper than his introspective material.

And you seem to completely separate, as if it's never a blend. Like I said, "97 Bonnie & Clyde" touches on very real life emotion in the sense that he's expressing his hate for Kim and his love for Halie, at the same time. Yet those emotions are IMPLIED and embodied in a concept. And all of that combined with the execution of that concept make it a much deeper record than the ones you like...

As, you're listening to a concept on multiple levels. You have this dichotomy of love/hate rolled up in to a dark yet comical (another artistic conflict) concept. It's not about multi's or violence; it's about a creative concept, an idea that provokes more than one response; a divisive idea.

Conceptual and multi-dimensional music which he has created, can also contain real emotion, as he has done, like in "Stan"; the only difference is that it's one tool in his palette, it's a mesh; just a weapon in the arsenal. Where as you want SAY WHAT YOU MEAN. A completely one dimensional introspective record is not deep, it's very easy, and obvious.

Any moron can tell you how they feel; but not any moron can creatively combine what they feel; with what others may feel, with social commentary, with humour; with a political point, with a story etc. - that is depth. Depth is more than meets the eye, something that gets under the skin.

[AmmoHaze]

^ wtf this argument is idiotic no offense.

Don't believe me go to a 2pac message board now and type in Dear Mama was corny, he sounding like a puss, it's soft, he moaning, complaining, whinning blah blagh


Watch the Pac fans come @ you like lions chasing someone in the jungle @ the thing is some of them will have 10 fave songs ahead of Dear Mama or Changes but the unity is there.

[AmmoHaze]

Imagine someone dissed Dear Mama or Changes by 2pac on a 2pac board 2pac fans wouldn't allow it some prefer 2pac's Gangster style records such as California Love over the deep materiall but even they wouldn't allow songs so important to pac as a person a Atrtis be disrespected.


Eminem fans here too passive on this board

You keep implying Em's introspective content is 'deep'.

Introspective content could be defined as the least 'deep' content as it's the most immediate thing on-tap: your emotions. Your emotions may delve deep or could be contrived of and analyzed in a deep way, but Eminem's creative material is way deeper than his introspective material.

And you seem to completely separate, as if it's never a blend. Like I said, "97 Bonnie & Clyde" touches on very real life emotion in the sense that he's expressing his hate for Kim and his love for Halie, at the same time. Yet those emotions are IMPLIED and embodied in a concept. And all of that combined with the execution of that concept make it a much deeper record than the ones you like...

As, you're listening to a concept on multiple levels. You have this dichotomy of love/hate rolled up in to a dark yet comical (another artistic conflict) concept. It's not about multi's or violence; it's about a creative concept, an idea that provokes more than one response; a divisive idea.

Conceptual and multi-dimensional music which he has created, can also contain real emotion, as he has done, like in "Stan"; the only difference is that it's one tool in his palette, it's a mesh; just a weapon in the arsenal. Where as you want SAY WHAT YOU MEAN. A completely one dimensional introspective record is not deep, it's very easy, and obvious.

It's my opinion that it's deep and touches me on a deep level but why go over this again and again? when i'm trying to talk about us just appreciating and showing unity and seeing the real snakes on here

[rapaddict92]

and another thing yelawolf and d12 deserve to be on Em's next album lol. but really in the long run im just happy to get any material from Em.

on't believe me go to a 2pac message board now and type in Dear Mama was corny, he sounding like a puss, it's soft, he moaning, complaining, whinning blah blagh


Watch the Pac fans come @ you like lions chasing someone in the jungle @ the thing is some of them will have 10 fave songs ahead of Dear Mama or Changes but the unity is there.

huh? i never mentioned 2pac relax man.

[EminemBase]

Imagine someone dissed Dear Mama or Changes by 2pac on a 2pac board 2pac fans wouldn't allow it some prefer 2pac's Gangster style records such as California Love over the deep materiall but even they wouldn't allow songs so important to pac as a person a Atrtis be disrespected.


Eminem fans here too passive on this board

You keep implying Em's introspective content is 'deep'.

Introspective content could be defined as the least 'deep' content as it's the most immediate thing on-tap: your emotions. Your emotions may delve deep or could be contrived of and analyzed in a deep way, but Eminem's creative material is way deeper than his introspective material.

And you seem to completely separate, as if it's never a blend. Like I said, "97 Bonnie & Clyde" touches on very real life emotion in the sense that he's expressing his hate for Kim and his love for Halie, at the same time. Yet those emotions are IMPLIED and embodied in a concept. And all of that combined with the execution of that concept make it a much deeper record than the ones you like...

As, you're listening to a concept on multiple levels. You have this dichotomy of love/hate rolled up in to a dark yet comical (another artistic conflict) concept. It's not about multi's or violence; it's about a creative concept, an idea that provokes more than one response; a divisive idea.

Conceptual and multi-dimensional music which he has created, can also contain real emotion, as he has done, like in "Stan"; the only difference is that it's one tool in his palette, it's a mesh; just a weapon in the arsenal. Where as you want SAY WHAT YOU MEAN. A completely one dimensional introspective record is not deep, it's very easy, and obvious.

It's my opinion that it's deep and touches me on a deep level but why go over this again and again? when i'm trying to talk about us just appreciating and showing unity and seeing the real snakes on here

I'm not saying it doesn't touch you on a deep level, that doesn't make it deep though.

I could be touched on a deep level by a really awful rapper; inadvertently. I could be deeply affected by how sorry I feel for Bizarre; for the fact he has to try and feed his family with that 'talent' - but does that make Bizarre deep?

Think of Em's content what you want, and like what you want... just don't tell me what I like when you haven't asked and don't know, and don't imply what I like is not deep. When in fact, it is, and it's deeper than what you keep saying, is deep.

[slimfan94]

Dear Lord it's not like we need to be united because we're going into war. Just admit base was right and call it a day.

[Blu]

[AmmoHaze]

You watch Soccer EminemBase? See Barcalona fantastic team but sometimes they over do the passing even in dangerous poisitions literally 10 yards away from the goal when a player could pull the trigger and score a goal which is the entire purpose of the sport and why they passing is to score yet not doing it when they in the perfect position just to be 'complex' and they even lost games doing this


So sometimes not being overly complex overly conceptual overly sophisticated is not a bad thing sometimes keeping it simple getting to the point is a good thing

[AmmoHaze]

Dear Lord it's not like we need to be united because we're going into war. Just admit base was right and call it a day.

My problem has never ever been with Base nothing againist him we just have diffrent tastes in music but that dont mean i have ill feelings towards him

[EminemBase]

You watch Soccer EminemBase? See Barcalona fantastic team but sometimes they over do the passing even in dangerous poisitions literally 10 yards away from the goal when a player could pull the trigger and score a goal which is the entire purpose of the sport and why they passing is to score yet not doing it when they in the perfect position just to be 'complex' and they even lost games doing this

So sometimes not being overly complex overly conceptual overly sophisticated is not a bad thing sometimes keeping it simple getting to the point is a good thing

I don't watch soccer, no.

But soccer is a sport that has rules, and a point to it. The aim of the game is to score goals by kicking the ball in the opposing team's net, so what you're saying makes sense there.

But applying that analogy doesn't work for me, with art. Because art has no rules (or shouldn't have to. Unfortunately many just follow and copy, and fail to be original) / that's the beauty of art, that it's just expression and creativity and it can be complex; absurd, dark, political... whatever.

I don't want to listen to themes I could write myself. Obviously I can't write rhymes as good as Eminem, but listening to him describe his struggle is not new nor particularly interesting to me. Sometimes he does it so well that it's still great, and enjoyable anyway...

But overall, I want to be blown away. I want to listen to whatever it is he presents me with and go "wow, that's incredible", and hearing him talk about his life issues just doesn't do that. I don't want a chronicle of his life on record, that's so predictable, and to me it's a waste of what he's capable of.

I don't mind the odd record of it, but you seem to want a dominance of it.

Also, like I said: if Eminem naturally feels like writing emotional content, I don't really care. What I'm saying is, he doesn't owe you it and it's not what he should be defined as. Any good writer can write what they feel, but not just anybody can create "Stan".

It can be simple and just emotional, but have a reason to exist outside of pandering to that audience who want to hear that from him. For example, "Love the Way You Lie" is brilliant; but that's a concept and an ingenious paradoxical collaboration. He defines domestic violence in an incredibly graphic, realistic and psychological way. I'm not apposed to emotional or realistic content; in fact, reality always hits harder, but one dimensional whining? yawn.

[EminemBase]

He's not a political rapper.

What? Eminem has always been a very political rapper.

[AmmoHaze]

This some real talk EmiemBase to i onced showed a family member who never liked Hip Hop never had any interest in it elderly Mockingbird and they really liked it for the simple reason of the positivity and content and just the song in general and this person then was happy to explore Hip Hop


But a song like 97 Bonnie & Clyde the reaction would be diffrent they wouldn't like it it's more darker it has violance it's for a select listener not saying it don't have it's place but it's just not for everyone


Some wanna listen to Tech 9 to be entertained but it dont entertain me Movado, Vybez Kartel, Elephant Man a lotta Dancehall Artists entertain me i don't listen to Eminem at times to be entertained to So Bad, Smack That entertain me



Not Afraid to me was amazing yet on here people hate it, things like this puzzle me



As do things like when Eminem has a new album droppin people always mention oh hesdhould collab with Tech 9, Linken Park and i'm thinking why not mention URban Artists if you want him to do something diffrent why not mention a Dancehall Artist. Why not let him breathe as a creative Artist like Kanye fans let him breathe


Why always the non Urban rappers always get mentioned wen people talk about wanting collabs? why always Hopsin why not Styles P?


Let Eminem breathe man let him represent Hip Hop which is from the Inner City he himself grew up there and it's puzzling cos none of the Eminem outside the net ever talk about wanting him to collab with Tech 9



What was wrong with Drop The World? why it always gotta be cypherish back packish rappers let the man do what he likes man



It ain't gonna kill you to appreciate a song that had a catchy hook you still have ill lyrics the most important aspect but jesus