5 Reasons Eminem Will Never Be My Idol [PolicyMic Article]

[biscuitsbrah]

So...just to be clear.... Thats not Taylor Swift in your avatar is it...

[biscuitsbrah]

Just by reading this topic, you can see why people hate feminists. Ofcourse horsebot3k and Calandre don't represent all feminists, but still, you see me bringing up arguments and trying to respect their views. I also keep saying men are dependent of women, so they don't think I believe men are superior. They keep on bringing my grammatical errors, but say nothing about the paragraphs I just typed. Biscuitsbrah types an entire paragraph and the only response is for the Taylor Swift part. Come on, be objective feminists, you can see you are the offensive ones here. Not the "dominant" males.

Yeah you seem like a reasonable man. Its ok, its better not to argue and debate anyway. Not getting us or them anywhere anyways.

[jinofthewind]

Horsebot you're like my favorite forum member ever. I've read almost everything you posted and can't agree more.

[Trimss]

Great article.

[csw621]

stopped reading when the author refers to prisstina gaguilera as simply christina. are people actually doing that now? like, is this a real thing?

[DariusAivani]

I also think the whole faggot thing is pretty played out. That shit was 13 years ago, he should be able to come up with something new. After TES/8 Mile it seemed Em ran out of ideas (the humor on Encore and Relapse isn't great and Recovery was terrible) but the MMLP2 was actually proof that Em still has something to offer. That's why I think it's so unnecessary that he has to go back to the faggot-bashing. There's just no need for that. He's 41 now, and should move on.

[yoda you can call me]

I also think the whole faggot thing is pretty played out. That shit was 13 years ago, he should be able to come up with something new. After TES/8 Mile it seemed Em ran out of ideas (the humor on Encore and Relapse isn't great and Recovery was terrible) but the MMLP2 was actually proof that Em still has something to offer. That's why I think it's so unnecessary that he has to go back to the faggot-bashing. There's just no need for that. He's 41 now, and should move on.

faggot is an everday word in certain circles of humanity, hes not gonna hold back on his lyrics because certain people live in a bubble, protected from such language.

[kkaniff]

^ It can be argued that, taken in context, there wasn't actually any homosexual bashing on Rap God/MMLP2.

[OnurCanRecords]

I also think the whole faggot thing is pretty played out. That shit was 13 years ago, he should be able to come up with something new. After TES/8 Mile it seemed Em ran out of ideas (the humor on Encore and Relapse isn't great and Recovery was terrible) but the MMLP2 was actually proof that Em still has something to offer. That's why I think it's so unnecessary that he has to go back to the faggot-bashing. There's just no need for that. He's 41 now, and should move on.

You're so gay looking boy, I can't even say it with a straight face looking boy

I don't know where you live but here (where I live) 'faggot' is pretty much the same as 'asshole'. Not a homophobic word

[Blackquill]

Horsebot3K made this thread worth reading.

Seriously though, people who can't fathom why a male would be a feminist for other reasons than "lololol trying to get in women's pants so beta" have issues. If as a man, you absolutely cannot think of your relationships with women in other terms than whether or not you would have sex with them then you're pretty messed up.

Regarding the whole survival of the fittest thing: we're more than fucking animals trying to survive, we're human beings trying to live actually decent lives. Pretending to follow the so-called rules of nature won't cut it if you consider that.

[Elision]

2013 and people STILL act offended over lyrics. This guy would shit himself trembling in the fetal position if he ever found out about GoTJ. fuck outta here

also, how about those magnets? that's some crazy shit.

[kkaniff]

^ Lemme guess, you're a feminist too.

[kkaniff]

@blackquill

[Blackquill]

^ Lemme guess, you're a feminist too.

Honest answer: I don't know if I can call myself one, due to... well look at the article in the OP, there's no way I'd want to be associated with that. But yes, I'm in favor of gender equality if that's what you're really asking.

[kkaniff]

@blackquill
I'm of a similar mindset, I'm never going to describe myself as feminist though, it sounds gay and kinda prejudiced, why can't it be called equalist?
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Now that the dust has settled and people have stopped catching unnecessary feels;
@Horsebot3k, your arguments are from an extremelt idealist standpoint. I'm not going to touch the rape issue so..
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"Let me stop you right the fuck there.
Men want women to be sexual
objects. Women are meant to be
nothing but holes to be filled with
dicks, and those same women are
then called sluts, whores, skanks, etc.
for having the aforementioned sex.
Society treats the loss of a man's
virginity as something to be
celebrated, while a woman's virginity
is seen as this pure, sacred thing that
should be kept as long as possible.
When a man goes out and fucks
everything on two legs, he's treated
with respect by his peers and seen as
an alpha male that all other men
should aspire to be. When a woman
even does something as benign as go
on one too many dates, she's
suddenly the biggest slutty skank bitch
cunt whore on Whore Island. If that
isn't a double standard, nothing is.
Watching porn and jerking off is "just
something guys do" (and boy, am I
ever guilty of it), but many women go
their entire lives without having an
orgasm because they never received
any education about their sexuality.
Society tells girls not to masturbate or
explore their bodies and that sexual
pleasure is not something they're
meant to have. This is pervasive in our
media. Three years ago, an excellent
film called Blue Valentine was given an
NC-17 rating by the Motion Picture
Association of America for an
inexplicit, non-nude scene depicting
cunnilingus. Countless R-rated movies
have included blowjob scenes, but
the second Ryan Gosling goes down
on Michelle Williams, it's some
horrible thing that no one under 17
should ever be exposed to. Compare
this to David Fincher's The Girl with
the Dragon Tattoo remake, in which
the titular character is raped in a very
graphic manner in two different
scenes, one of which contains female
nudity. This received an R rating with
no edits. I've got nothing against the
film, at it is quite good and the
victim's revenge is exceptionally
satisfying, but the ratings
inconsistency here is astonishing.
Raping a woman is all well and good,
but God forbid you show one
experiencing sexual pleasure. For
those who don't know, the MPAA
ratings board is composed of
conservative, middle-aged parents.
The documentary This Film is Not Yet
Rated is totally worth seeing if you'd
like to know more. (Unfortunately, it
was made a few years prior to Blue
Valentine"
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-Men want women to be sexual objects? Really? Are you fucking serious? See, statements like this are what gave rise to the term "femnazi", that statement isn't just a sweeping generalization, it's a STUPID sweeping generalization, it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.
-When my little brother is old enough, I'm going to buy him alcohol and try to get him laid, I'm not going to do the same for my younger sister. Is that a double standard? Yes. Does it mean I love my sister less? No. Is it, as you claim, a sign that women are being opressed? I don't think so, women are held to different/higher standards than men in matters of sexuality same as men are held to higher standards in other matters. If the argument you're using to claim that women are being opressed by men is that they can't go out and fuck everybody without being taunted for it, mostly by women themselves, then you have no argument.
-I've seen countless movies depicting cunnilingus, not sure what your argument is there.
-You're comparing spermatozoa to a zygote, which is, again, rather stupid. How do you know a fetus isn't a person? Thing is, you don't. If a chick wants to abort a baby, it's totally her choice, it is her body after all, but making up stupid arguments to defend it is just silly.
I could write a rebuttal to every point you raised but what's the use?.
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@biscuitsbrah, male superiority is a myth, one that is constantly being disproved every day.
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@OnurCanRecords, the issue with your argument is the polar opposite of Horsebot3k's, while he's an idealist, you come across as a sorta realist, basing your opinions on real life experiences and exprapolating from there. It doesn't really work that way and you tend to come across as being unsympathetic to peoples struggles other than your own.
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Debate was fun while it lasted though.