Accent vs Shouting: Which is/was more annoying?

[DanWS]

I mean think about it, if he stuck with the accent, we'd have tons more pointless songs were he drags on about murdering people, which could be terrible.

As opposed to tons more pointless songs where he is talking about absolutely nothing and coming up with crap punchline after crap punchline?

Right because Recovery has no content. That's a dumb comment you know?

I'm not referring to Recovery, numbnuts.

[Mr Change]

Right because Recovery has no content. That's a dumb comment you know?

I'm not referring to Recovery, numbnuts.

Well, considering that is the only EMINEM album with the 'SHOUTING EMINEM' on it.

But seriously I know he gets out of control with punchlines but still I believe shouting Eminem has produced more 'content' than Relapse Em produced.

And as for claiming Relapse might be the most technical he's ever been, how is that an odd statement? When you have an accent nothings stopping you from rhyming words you could never have in the first place.

[DanWS]

Well, considering that is the only EMINEM album with the 'SHOUTING EMINEM' on it.

You clearly haven't read any of my posts in this thread. But I'll summarise it for you: The shouting worked with the likes of "Despicable" and then some of the tracks on Recovery such as "Almost Famous" and "Cold Wind Blows". But as he carried it on, and on....and on, after Recovery, it has become repetitive, totally pointless and extremely annoying to the ear.

[Innovation]

And as for claiming Relapse might be the most technical he's ever been, how is that an odd statement? When you have an accent nothings stopping you from rhyming words you could never have in the first place.

His first three albums are more technically impressive than Relapse. I'm not taking anything away from Relapse though, some of the songs are absolutely crazy rhyme rise. Just take a look at Hello's 1st verse.

[MikeNUFC]

And as for claiming Relapse might be the most technical he's ever been, how is that an odd statement? When you have an accent nothings stopping you from rhyming words you could never have in the first place.

Well firstly, you said "the accent is better [than the shouting] technically". How does this make sense? How can a voice be technical?

Onto the point your making now. A point I assumed you meant to make originally.

Using an accent to rhyme words that shouldn't rhyme isn't really being that technical. People seem to see this as Relapse's strong point. When it's not, it's a weakness, as it makes Em's job easier.

That's just one reason why the technical aspect of his first three albums is so much stronger than Relapse. Em didn't use an accent on his first three albums but still rhymed words that aren't technically rhymes. Lots of rappers do it.

Rhyming effortlessly, creatively and smoothly shows great technicality. Using an accent to rhyme words doesn't.

[Mr Change]

Well, considering that is the only EMINEM album with the 'SHOUTING EMINEM' on it.

You clearly haven't read any of my posts in this thread. But I'll summarise it for you: The shouting worked with the likes of "Despicable" and then some of the tracks on Recovery such as "Almost Famous" and "Cold Wind Blows". But as he carried it on, and on....and on, after Recovery, it has become repetitive, totally pointless and extremely annoying to the ear.

Yeah dude I understand that, I think that myself. But the same could be said for the accent.

Worked for Stay Wide Awake and Deja Vu, bombed for 3AM and Medicine Ball

etc, etc.

Point is, i'm saying I like the shouting better because I think no matter how annoying the shouting is, the accent keeps him from really touching on points and getting emotional.

Well firstly, you said "the accent is better [than the shouting] technically". How does this make sense? How can a voice be technical?

Onto the point your making now. A point I assumed you meant to make originally.

Using an accent to rhyme words that shouldn't rhyme isn't really being that technical. People seem to see this as Relapse's strong point. When it's not, it's a weakness, as it makes Em's job easier.

That's just one reason why the technical aspect of his first three albums is so much stronger than Relapse. Em didn't use an accent on his first three albums but still rhymed words that aren't technically rhymes. Lots of rappers do it.

Rhyming effortlessly, creatively and smoothly shows great technicality. Using an accent to rhyme words doesn't.

I never said the accent[voice] was better than the shouting[voice] technically. That's stupid. If I said that I didn't mean to. I simply meant that him rapping with an accent allowed him to have more technical lyrics than him shouting. Not saying that him shouting can't have more technical lyrics on some songs, but overall.

Now, on to the rest of what you said. Yeah, I basically agree with all of that, I don't like the fact that the accent is overpraised when, really, it was probably way easier for him because he had so many options on how to say things, as I said. Back on his first three albums he could tell a story in a normal accent an rhyme flawlessly.

[OMEGA]

I prefer the baby voice he did for Taking My Ball. In fact, I think I speak for everyone when I say that his next LP has to be full of baby voice. Immediate classic if it happens.

[DanWS]

I prefer the baby voice he did for Taking My Ball. In fact, I think I speak for everyone when I say that his next LP has to be full of baby voice. Immediate classic if it happens.

The Slim Baby LP

[JakeBlack]

I don't think he's screaming on HTS.. except Above the Law.

Living Porter, Take From Me, Echo and Loud Noises.

Living Porter?

I mean Living Proof my bad I always get those names mixed up for some reason.

[Trimss]

I'm not referring to Recovery, numbnuts.

What are you refering to? Recovery is the only Eminem album he made after the accent, so the shouting talked about here is the shooting on Recovery. Accent on Relapse, Shouting on Recovery.

[Mr Change]

I'm not referring to Recovery, numbnuts.

What are you refering to? Recovery is the only Eminem album he made after the accent, so the shouting talked about here is the shooting on Recovery. Accent on Relapse, Shouting on Recovery.

I pointed this out aswell.

[Trimss]

Yep, I just saw it, sorry.

I wouldn't mind an album better lyrically than Recovery but with the same kind of voice, just like i wouldn't mind a Relapse 2.

[Master Chief]

I'm not referring to Recovery, numbnuts.

What are you refering to? Recovery is the only Eminem album he made after the accent, so the shouting talked about here is the shooting on Recovery. Accent on Relapse, Shouting on Recovery.

He's talking about the post-Recovery shouting which is kinda pointless. The only shouting on H:TS was in Above The Law and Living Proof.

Notice the italization because people seem to not know what shouting really is.

[DanWS]

I'm not referring to Recovery, numbnuts.

What are you refering to? Recovery is the only Eminem album he made after the accent, so the shouting talked about here is the shooting on Recovery. Accent on Relapse, Shouting on Recovery.

I pointed this out aswell.

And I fucking TOLD you. And this was your reply:

"Yeah dude I understand that, I think that myself."

So why are you bringing it up again like I didn't answer you? Fuck, you're annoying as shit.

[Mr Change]

I pointed this out aswell.

And I fucking TOLD you. And this was your reply:

"Yeah dude I understand that, I think that myself."

So why are you bringing it up again like I didn't answer you? Fuck, you're annoying as shit.

I was just pointing out that I brought up the same thing, said nothing about you.

Dropping it, does anyone else think that an album with shouting & accented tracks would be better than Relapse/Recovery? a good mix, I mean