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Postby WinstonMARX » Jun 9th, '11, 06:22

When it comes to Fast Lane I actually love listening to it. The beat actually suits Ems delivery which I don't even like and makes it sound good. The flows are great and on point. I love the chorus and the atmosphere of the track in general.

BUT

Royce and Em spit more nonsensical filler than I've ever heard from either of them. Random rhymes to allow them to flow so well. I'm one of the people who think Em's wordplay is corny but even if you like it he didn't execute it well in this song at all. It wasn't even really wordplay. The soccer ball/ballistics punch and die/fuzzy dice punches exemplify this perfectly. (I'd say the danish Drake punchline but that was more of satire to set up the Nicki Minaj line in my opinion.) They don't make sense. No coherency. Royce did it also with the unicorn line and Jack C line. I know their lyricism is better on the other songs on the album (I haven't checked out but like 2 songs thoroughly) but this song had so much damn potential and these things spoiled it for me.

I don't want to be a cool Em hater. I'm just being real.
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Re: Bear with me...

Postby Fa-Q » Jun 9th, '11, 06:26

You're such a cool Em hater
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Re: Bear with me...

Postby Master Chief » Jun 9th, '11, 06:28

All I know is that Royce Da 5'9" gets a 9.5/10 for his performance on this song.
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Re: Bear with me...

Postby WinstonMARX » Jun 9th, '11, 06:30

Master Chief wrote:All I know is that Royce Da 5'9" gets a 9.5/10 for his performance on this song.

Oh his flow does but I've heard him put so much more effort into his lyrics on countless other songs. I'm not even saying he isn't capable of still doing that because I've heard "Second Place". I don't know why he's so different with Em on a track.
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Postby M+M » Jun 9th, '11, 06:32

I agree in that the song just talks about random lines and rhymes.
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Re: Bear with me...

Postby WinstonMARX » Jun 9th, '11, 06:33

Menzo wrote:
WinstonMARX wrote:
Master Chief wrote:All I know is that Royce Da 5'9" gets a 9.5/10 for his performance on this song.

Oh his flow does but I've heard him put so much more effort into his lyrics on countless other songs. I'm not even saying he isn't capable of still doing that because I've heard "Second Place". I don't know why he's so different with Em on a track.


Well, keep in mind that this EP kinda just...happened. I'm sure he'll be able to slew just as many multies and just as good of a flow on Success Is Certain and with much more direction.

This track is basically just a fucking around track, saying some of the nuttiest crap without making sense.

Yeah because he didn't want to go hard on his first project with Em who he's obsessed with :facepalm
Don't cop him out.
Even Relapse Em wrote nutty shit with more coherency and prowess.
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Postby dshady89 » Jun 9th, '11, 06:37

WinstonMARX wrote:Yeah because he didn't want to go hard on his first project with Em who he's obsessed with :facepalm
Don't cop him out.
Even Relapse Em wrote nutty shit with more coherency and prowess.



It wasn't even a project at first though, most of the songs of the EP where done just for fun, who knows, maybe Fast Lane was one of them.
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Re: Bear with me...

Postby Master Chief » Jun 9th, '11, 06:38

WinstonMARX wrote:
Master Chief wrote:All I know is that Royce Da 5'9" gets a 9.5/10 for his performance on this song.

Oh his flow does but I've heard him put so much more effort into his lyrics on countless other songs. I'm not even saying he isn't capable of still doing that because I've heard "Second Place". I don't know why he's so different with Em on a track.

Honestly, I loved that unicorn line. He didn't spit one weak punchline here IMO. His flow and his rhyming is what makes me praise his verses so much. His rhyming was incredible and so natural. His flow is always on-point but he went insane with it on this song. Especially in the last part of his 2nd verse when he goes double time.

Also, I feel like Royce was not fucking around when he made this song. Royce usually fucks around, I mean, his verses turn out dope all the same but you can tell that he messes around in his delivery and some of the lines. When he wrote this song, I think he was taking it seriously despite the video. His tone of voice just seemed very focused. In Second Place, you can tell that he's just being the Royce we all know and love.
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Postby WinstonMARX » Jun 9th, '11, 06:43

I observed the track and stated my opinions on it (faults, strengths, ect) with proof to support them.
You guys are making conjectures about what their intentions were. That isn't debatable. There's no evidence for either side. So with that said, both of you win. Let's see what some other people have to say before 5 people make this a 12 page thread like every other controversial topic.
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Postby Master Chief » Jun 9th, '11, 06:48

WinstonMARX wrote:Royce did it also with the unicorn line.

That line ties in with the slapping up a cop and stealing his clothes line. Why? Because after those set of lines he explained comically how he would hang a cop by his balls from the horn of a unicorn. So, it's not random filler, it fits in with what he was trying to say.
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Re: Bear with me...

Postby WinstonMARX » Jun 9th, '11, 06:49

Menzo wrote:
WinstonMARX wrote:I observed the track and stated my opinions on it (faults, strengths, ect) with proof to support them.
You guys are making conjectures about what their intentions were. That isn't debatable. There's no evidence for either side. So with that said, both of you win. Let's see what some other people have to say before 5 people make this a 12 page thread like every other controversial topic.


1) EP wasn't a planned creation
2) Intentions to bring lyricism into Hip Hop

Seem like fallible points from my side of the fence :-k But alas, I don't care.


1) THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT FAST LANE, NOT THE EP.
2) THEIR FLOW IS IMPECCABLE, THEY SACRIFICED THEIR LYRICS TO MAKE IT THAT WAY
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Re: Bear with me...

Postby WinstonMARX » Jun 9th, '11, 06:58

Idk why everyone flames eachother in arguments. I won't respond to anything that contains something attacking the person and not the topic. This forum would be a lot more pleasant place if everyone followed suit.
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Re: Bear with me...

Postby WinstonMARX » Jun 9th, '11, 07:02

There is a time and place for forum flame wars. I didn't say they were bad, I said they didn't have a place in topics on other stuff. Like when this happens:

That song sucks


You're an idiot, that song is good


Fuck you


You have a small dick bitch
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Re: Bear with me...

Postby WinstonMARX » Jun 9th, '11, 07:12

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Re: Bear with me...

Postby Elision » Jun 9th, '11, 07:41

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i'm comin in, drivin my short bus
with this nose i don't need a torch up
bustin through, light the industry's porsche up
comin after who didn't support us...
imma change your brain bring
every wicked bit of strange to mainstream
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