A common misconception about Eminem

[EminemInsider]

When it comes to Eminem's rhyming technique, a lot of people claim Eminem alters the pronunciation of words in songs to make them sound more like rhymes, but until his post-2002 songs, that was VERY rarely the case.

Eminem hardly ever changed the pronunciation of a word from how he normally would pronounce it in the actual delivery. Examples of him NOT doing it:

What's this bitch retarded/Give me back my 16 dollars
If I could swallow a bottle of Tylenol I would/And end it for good, just say goodbye to Hollywood
Or stole my seat in the lunch room and drank my chocolate milk/Every time you tipped my tray and it dropped and spilt
Please don't let me be pigeon-holed in no regular job/Yo, I hope you can hear me homie, wherever you are/Yo I'm tellin you dog, I'm bailin this trailer tomorrow

In Eminem's head when he's writing the lines, he's hearing certain syllables pronounced differently in a different dialect (bitch re-taw-ded/16 daw-luhs), (Tylenol I would/bye to Hawl-y-wood), (chah-clate milk/dropped and spilt), (regula jawb/eva ya aw/tellin ya dawg/treh-la tom-aw), but in the actual song, he's using his own dialect and focusing on the "voice acting" part.

And that's one of the things that made him interesting to listen to, as opposed to listening to lots of rhymes with words that sound empty because the rapper is just thinking about enunciating his intended rhymes as opposed to saying what he wrote like he means it.

The astute rap fan/listener will notice the rhymes Eminem wrote anyway.

A lot of rappers (especially of the underground variety) could learn a lot from prime Eminem in this aspect.

[M-Pyre]

I co-sign this thread !

I remember the exact moment of time when I got good at catching mulit syllable rhymes. it was about 5 years ago when I was listening to lose yourself. as the song progressed I was always fascinated how good it used to (and still does!) sound to me.. especially the part in the third verse where he goes a bit faster and starts to rhyme on.. harder, totter, father, mama, drama, on and, and wanna.. that was euphoric to me. and I always thought that it was because of the fast rhymes, but no!..right then and there, after hearing it probably more then a thousand times, I suddenly heard the internal rhymes, the, teeter, between, being, prima, bab(Y), screaming and me to, rhymes. I was BLOWN away! thats when I started to notice all of the other rhymes which he applied to nearly every other song before encore.

it's the same case with:

And walk around with an empty bottle of Remy Martin
Starting shit like some 26-year-old skinny Cartman
I'm anti-Backstreet and Ricky Martin
With instincts to kill N'Sync, don't get me started
These fucking brats can't sing and Britney's garbage
What is this bitch, retarded? Give me back my 16 dollars!
All I see is sissies in magazines smiling

and there's even more internal rhymes like the:

starting shit - 26
With instincts to kill N'Sync - can't sing

I just fucking love it. thats why I hold relapse in such a high regard. cause the syllables being compounded in that album is out of this world !

[Devil'sAdvocate]

i want relapse 2

[Elision]

In Eminem's head when he's writing the lines, he's hearing certain syllables pronounced differently in a different dialect

[Devil'sAdvocate]

In Eminem's head when he's writing the lines, he's hearing certain syllables pronounced differently in a different dialect

WTF son

[Innovation]

I just fucking love it. thats why I hold relapse in such a high regard. cause the syllables being compounded in that album is out of this world !

It's a lot more forced in Relapse as in comparison to SSLP, MMLP and TES. There are of course exceptions such as Deja Vu.

[EminemInsider]

In Eminem's head when he's writing the lines, he's hearing certain syllables pronounced differently in a different dialect

What part of what I wrote don't you grasp?

When Eminem was writing lyrics, he thought of some alternate pronunciations when crafting his rhymes. However, when he rapped the song, he pronounced the words the way he normally would. He didn't focus on making the words SOUND like they rhyme in a see-spot-run way for the audience.

A lot of dull underground rappers do. They'll change the pronunciation of each word so that they sound the way they heard it in their head, and what you get is empty words that sound like a blur to the listener.

[richard]

Umm, the accent throughout most of relapse was changing the pronunciation to make things rhyme.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Umm, the accent throughout most of relapse was changing the pronunciation to make things rhyme.

that is a horrible misconception too,i would like for you to back that up with a sufficient amount of evidence?

[TheGentlePlayer]

I co-sign this thread !

I remember the exact moment of time when I got good at catching mulit syllable rhymes. it was about 5 years ago when I was listening to lose yourself. as the song progressed I was always fascinated how good it used to (and still does!) sound to me.. especially the part in the third verse where he goes a bit faster and starts to rhyme on.. harder, totter, father, mama, drama, on and, and wanna.. that was euphoric to me. and I always thought that it was because of the fast rhymes, but no!..right then and there, after hearing it probably more then a thousand times, I suddenly heard the internal rhymes, the, teeter, between, being, prima, bab(Y), screaming and me to, rhymes. I was BLOWN away! thats when I started to notice all of the other rhymes which he applied to nearly every other song before encore.

it's the same case with:

And walk around with an empty bottle of Remy Martin
Starting shit like some 26-year-old skinny Cartman
I'm anti-Backstreet and Ricky Martin
With instincts to kill N'Sync, don't get me started
These fucking brats can't sing and Britney's garbage
What is this bitch, retarded? Give me back my 16 dollars!
All I see is sissies in magazines smiling

and there's even more internal rhymes like the:

starting shit - 26
With instincts to kill N'Sync - can't sing

I just fucking love it. thats why I hold relapse in such a high regard. cause the syllables being compounded in that album is out of this world !

How does Empty rhyme with Remy and Skinny?

[Emadyville]

yeah thats what i loved about him..

sad to be past tense but yeah i feel the same

[Devil'sAdvocate]

I co-sign this thread !

I remember the exact moment of time when I got good at catching mulit syllable rhymes. it was about 5 years ago when I was listening to lose yourself. as the song progressed I was always fascinated how good it used to (and still does!) sound to me.. especially the part in the third verse where he goes a bit faster and starts to rhyme on.. harder, totter, father, mama, drama, on and, and wanna.. that was euphoric to me. and I always thought that it was because of the fast rhymes, but no!..right then and there, after hearing it probably more then a thousand times, I suddenly heard the internal rhymes, the, teeter, between, being, prima, bab(Y), screaming and me to, rhymes. I was BLOWN away! thats when I started to notice all of the other rhymes which he applied to nearly every other song before encore.

it's the same case with:

And walk around with an empty bottle of Remy Martin
Starting shit like some 26-year-old skinny Cartman
I'm anti-Backstreet and Ricky Martin
With instincts to kill N'Sync, don't get me started
These fucking brats can't sing and Britney's garbage
What is this bitch, retarded? Give me back my 16 dollars!
All I see is sissies in magazines smiling

and there's even more internal rhymes like the:

starting shit - 26
With instincts to kill N'Sync - can't sing

I just fucking love it. thats why I hold relapse in such a high regard. cause the syllables being compounded in that album is out of this world !

How does Empty rhyme with Remy and Skinny?

Em and Rem fully rhyme

the y sound rhymes at the end of all the words perfectly

and skinny could be counted as a slant rhyme,it goes great tbh

you really should not be listening to Em's music if you cant identify the quality of the rhyming,no offense ma G!

how does "One" and "Some" rhyme,they sound so fuckin similar,see the n and m letter sound almost exact when pronounced.

[Elision]

In Eminem's head when he's writing the lines, he's hearing certain syllables pronounced differently in a different dialect

What part of what I wrote don't you grasp?

When Eminem was writing lyrics, he thought of some alternate pronunciations when crafting his rhymes. However, when he rapped the song, he pronounced the words the way he normally would. He didn't focus on making the words SOUND like they rhyme in a see-spot-run way for the audience.

A lot of dull underground rappers do. They'll change the pronunciation of each word so that they sound the way they heard it in their head, and what you get is empty words that sound like a blur to the listener.

It's ignorant to just objectively say the way Eminem's head works -- as if you know it for a fact. That's why I 'd

[richard]

Umm, the accent throughout most of relapse was changing the pronunciation to make things rhyme.

that is a horrible misconception too,i would like for you to back that up with a sufficient amount of evidence?

To turn the corner so he can corner ya, you're a goner, he's onto ya
Out the corner of his cornea, he just saw ya run

onto you
cornea
saw you run

shouldn't rhyme. but w/ the accent he pronounces 'on' more like how it would be pronounced in "pony" rather than the 'aww'-ish sound. this way it can rhyme with "corn". he does the same was "saw", making it sound more like "so" rather than the "aww" sound. i know there are more rhymes in those lines but this is example enough.

the "ya" part could have rhymed anyway w/o an accent. there is more of this throughout the album, though i agree it may not be to the same extent as he used to do this. it still happens a considerable amount throughout Relapse, though. Maybe less so since then, but there are some interesting ones...

"accidentally butt-dialed her and she heard me spreading AIDS rumours a-bout her"

[richard]

I thought he said pre-2002. Oops.