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Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby Amaranthine » Nov 11th, '11, 17:41

An interesting read. :happy:

The BET Awards are always one of the most electrifying nights in the world of hip-hop. For a culture that gets dissed by the Grammys and played by the AMA's, this is usually the one night where its value is genuinely appreciated. Sadly, this year the wounds were more self-inflicted.

One of the highlights of this star-studded event is always the "cyphers." The rawest most simplistic form of rap, a cypher is where a circle of emcees use rapid-fire punchlines and witty metaphors in an attempt to demonstrate their lyrical supremacy. Usually it's one of the most exciting parts of the show -- but this year, it was lackluster at best. Generic flows and subject matter mixed in with abysmal punchlines like "Your rap style is coming softer than a cats meow" and "So many rings on my fingers they call me Ringling Brothers" made the 2011 cypher a total yawn.

The uninspired performances spoke volumes about the state of the game. I mean, forgive me for not being enthused about hearing sixteen bars from Chris Brown and Estelle (Estelle? Seriously?), when I'm expecting the highest level of lyricism the game has to offer. I guess C. Breezy does have some level of street cred; when he raps about slapping hoes you gotta believe him right?

This year's installment wasn't all terrible. Newcomers Kendrick Lamar, Big Krit, Meek Mill, and the Shady Records group -- Yelawolf, Joe Budden, Crooked I, and Royce Da 5'9 -- were capable, but Eminem delivered the night's best verse ("Flipping the script up/ like Mike Vick getting bit in his junk/ by a pit yup Ima sick pup / I'd be a horrible magician cause I'll f*** a trick up"), which clearly established that he's still one of the best rappers in the game. But that's exactly the problem. This was the 2011 cypher -- why is a top lyricist from a decade ago able to demolish today's top new talent? Have we reached a ceiling? Is there only room to regress?

This isn't an attempt to discredit Slim Shady in any way. But if had been a 2001 cypher, there's no way Big Daddy Kane, a legend in his era, could've held a candle to newcomers like Eminem and Jay Z.
Kane was genius, but as the game progressed, so should the art form. Imagine if Sugar Hill Gang's Wonder Mike had been able to beat Kane or Chuck D. in a '91-era rap-off! The idea is laughable.

Evolution in art should be the norm. Rap's first three decades was following suit, but now we're at a standstill. The BET Awards set out to be a yearly proclamation of hip hop being alive and well... but if BET Awards cypher showed us anything, its that hip-hop is on life support.

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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Nov 11th, '11, 17:55

:worship: :worship: :worship:
I wanted an album so rugged nobody could touch it.
Spent a million a track and went over my budget.
Now how in the fuck am I supposed to get out of debt?
I can't rap anymore, I just murdered the alphabet.
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby dR3 » Nov 11th, '11, 18:09

They forgot Joell, just sayin'. :coffee:
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby The Aviator » Nov 11th, '11, 18:14

dR3 wrote:They forgot Joell, just sayin'. :coffee:


Beacause he is Puerto Rican :laughing: :laughing:
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby King Bullet » Nov 11th, '11, 18:37

Reason why Em was the best that night is that he is decad :D es ahead of his peer and newcomers... nobody fucks with the Fire Marshall!!! ;))))))
At least I know that I don't know...question is: are you bozos smart enough to feel stupid?!-hope so!!!
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby Sam. » Nov 11th, '11, 19:09

So the basic thing is that he is still that talented as he was earlier.
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby Ka0t1c » Nov 11th, '11, 19:11

i agree, eminem's been writing his heart out for awhile, these new cats aren't as experienced in the lyrical department. most ppl are careless with their words, that IS why.
oh yeah... and thanks for nothing too
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby Manly Moose » Nov 11th, '11, 21:53

Sam. wrote:So the basic thing is that he is still that talented as he was earlier.


The point of the article is why the hell arent there new cats that can do better.
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby _Hawk_ » Nov 11th, '11, 22:54

Great read, thanks :y:
The irony as well is that Em is no-where near the level he was at between the release of the SSLP and the end of the TES era. Doesn't say a lot for hip-hop at the moment.
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby Graphic » Nov 11th, '11, 22:55

I'd never thought of it that way.
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby SG. » Nov 11th, '11, 22:55

Very bad quote from the cypher.
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby RKOunion » Nov 11th, '11, 23:02

("Flipping the script up/ like Mike Vick getting bit in his junk/ by a pit yup Ima sick pup / I'd be a horrible magician cause I'll f*** a trick up"), which clearly established that he's still one of the best rappers in the game



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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby _Hawk_ » Nov 11th, '11, 23:04

Geno wrote:Or maybe the Eminem era isn't over. :coffee:


Definitely true. I think someone can have too much respect, though. It's almost sad that no-one has any major beefs with him like they used to. In a 2009 interview he said he was back to being an arse-hole. It's funny how quickly the reaction from Relapse completely changed this. I think he may be going back in that direction, though.
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby Sukot » Nov 12th, '11, 01:01

Not sure if the article in the OP is a good or bad thing.

I do think hip hop is going downhill a lot though. And it's also hurting that not many people listen to it anymore.
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Re: Rap Hits a Ceiling

Postby Elision » Nov 12th, '11, 01:07

stopped reading after he mocked tech :n:
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bustin through, light the industry's porsche up
comin after who didn't support us...
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