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Is Eminem the most complete Hip-Hop Artist ever?

Postby Aftermathers » Mar 28th, '12, 17:53

Song Writer, Producer, Sings his Hooks, Mixes his Songs, Has Ghost Written for Dr Dre


Has Produced about 90% of his own Music as well as Produced for other Rappers, has Sung or Performed about 95%% of the Hooks in his Songs himself


Has Written and Produced every type of Song from Personal/Emotional like Mockingbird to Political like Mosh to Poetic like Stan to Comedy like My Name Is to Story Telling like Brain Damage to Street like Soldier to a Club Banger like Smack That


Is also 1 of the very few Rap Artists ever to have a Song where he is Singing on the entire Song from start to finish with Hailies Song that was on an official Album
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

Superman
Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby Aftermathers » Mar 28th, '12, 17:58

Menzo wrote:90% of his own music? Is that a legitimate fact :unsure:

I think he was and can still be the most complete rapper ever, looking at his discography, but musician is a whole 'nother realm. Given that he comes from a hugely under-appreciated and essentially frowned upon genre that is rap, you could argue he definitely had to do a lot more for that worldwide musical recognition.

I don't know though. He's my favourite artist, so fuck if he's the most complete artist ever, as long as he appeals to me.



Yeah it fact is maybe not 90% exactly but definitley around that region
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

Superman
Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby BILI » Mar 28th, '12, 18:20

Menzo wrote:90% of his own music? Is that a legitimate fact :unsure:

I think he was and can still be the most complete rapper ever, looking at his discography, but musician is a whole 'nother realm. Given that he comes from a hugely under-appreciated and essentially frowned upon genre that is rap, you could argue he definitely had to do a lot more for that worldwide musical recognition.

I don't know though. He's my favourite artist, so fuck if he's the most complete artist ever, as long as he appeals to me.

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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby ShAdYTiLIDie » Mar 28th, '12, 18:36

HAHAHAH^ I definiteyl think he is the most complete artist ever.. I dont think any other rapper can even come close to Em, but thats just my opinion, im sure a lot of people will disagree
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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby Aftermathers » Mar 28th, '12, 18:40

ShAdYTiLIDie wrote:HAHAHAH^ I definiteyl think he is the most complete artist ever.. I dont think any other rapper can even come close to Em, but thats just my opinion, im sure a lot of people will disagree



No doubt what is also to important is you can't disagree with facts it is all fact that Eminem is complete as far as Writting, Producing, Singing, Ghost Writting etc
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

Superman
Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby NextEpisode » Mar 28th, '12, 18:53

You are not specifying this "most complete artist" statement for any specific genré, correct? What it all boils down to, though, is how you look at it, and what you prefer. Em isn't the only artist out there who create the music & write the lyrics. Em has also gone through a lot of ups and downs in this past decade.

As far as singer/song writers, I'd go with Beatles. As far as singer/performers, I'd go with Elvis Presley.
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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby Man1x » Mar 28th, '12, 19:08

You really can compare across genres, it is a hard thing to do. I'd say he is the King of Rap and that is where I'll leave it. There hasn't and will never be a King of Music, only genres.
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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby Kill You » Mar 28th, '12, 19:19

Menzo wrote:
NextEpisode wrote:You are not specifying this "most complete artist" statement for any specific genré, correct? What it all boils down to, though, is how you look at it, and what you prefer. Em isn't the only artist out there who create the music & write the lyrics. Em has also gone through a lot of ups and downs in this past decade.

As far as singer/song writers, I'd go with Beatles. As far as singer/performers, I'd go with Elvis Presley.


I can't stand the Beatles, they just come off as so dull to me. Probably cuz they were pioneers, I suppose, kinda like someone like Rakim or Run DMC would sound dull to a new Hip-Hop fan.

MJ was the most liveliest performer I've ever seen, up until his death.


This. I don't like The Beatles. I find their music incredibly boring.
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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby NextEpisode » Mar 28th, '12, 19:55

Kill You wrote:
Menzo wrote:
NextEpisode wrote:You are not specifying this "most complete artist" statement for any specific genré, correct? What it all boils down to, though, is how you look at it, and what you prefer. Em isn't the only artist out there who create the music & write the lyrics. Em has also gone through a lot of ups and downs in this past decade.

As far as singer/song writers, I'd go with Beatles. As far as singer/performers, I'd go with Elvis Presley.


I can't stand the Beatles, they just come off as so dull to me. Probably cuz they were pioneers, I suppose, kinda like someone like Rakim or Run DMC would sound dull to a new Hip-Hop fan.

MJ was the most liveliest performer I've ever seen, up until his death.


This. I don't like The Beatles. I find their music incredibly boring.


The fact that you guys find their music boring, doesn't make them "less complete", does it? This topic wasn't which arist you prefer? Or did I miss something?
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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby Chet Starr » Mar 28th, '12, 20:01

It's impossible to believe someone when they are pulling stats out their ass
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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby Kill You » Mar 28th, '12, 20:41

NextEpisode wrote:
The fact that you guys find their music boring, doesn't make them "less complete", does it? This topic wasn't which arist you prefer? Or did I miss something?


Never said they were...there is absolutely no denying their influence on music in general. I'm just not into that type of music, sorry...
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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby slimshady18 » Mar 28th, '12, 20:50

he's def one of best and one of biggest artists that ever lived ,but the most complete artist ever ? hell no
Eminem is the King of his genre and as someone said in previous post,I'll leave at that.
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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby Aftermathers » Mar 28th, '12, 20:55

I was strictly talking about Hip Hop genre only
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

Superman
Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby NextEpisode » Mar 28th, '12, 21:21

Menzo wrote:
NextEpisode wrote:The fact that you guys find their music boring, doesn't make them "less complete", does it? This topic wasn't which arist you prefer? Or did I miss something?


No, and none of us even slightly suggested that. In fact, if you read what I said, I reasoned with you by using Hip-Hop references.


Neither of your comments did adress the subject of this thread, "which artist is most comple". You didn't agree nor disagree? That's fine. But coming with a comment like "This. I don't like The Beatles. I find their music incredibly boring." doesn't add very much to the discussion. Thus, I was questioning if you guys (but especially "Kill You"), if that made them "less complete". Simple as that.
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Re: Is it fair to say Eminem is the most complete Artist eve

Postby Kill You » Mar 28th, '12, 22:01

NextEpisode wrote:
Menzo wrote:
NextEpisode wrote:The fact that you guys find their music boring, doesn't make them "less complete", does it? This topic wasn't which arist you prefer? Or did I miss something?


No, and none of us even slightly suggested that. In fact, if you read what I said, I reasoned with you by using Hip-Hop references.


Neither of your comments did adress the subject of this thread, "which artist is most comple". You didn't agree nor disagree? That's fine. But coming with a comment like "This. I don't like The Beatles. I find their music incredibly boring." doesn't add very much to the discussion. Thus, I was questioning if you guys (but especially "Kill You"), if that made them "less complete". Simple as that.


What the fuck, why especially me? I shared my opinion and now I'm getting shit for it. I said that I'm not denying their influence or how "complete" they are. I'm just not into their music. Christ. Never said they sucked or weren't good artists or anything.
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