Eminem to Perform at Democratic National Convention

[Amaranthine]

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[Cube23]

This is really cool.

Obama2012

[Fa-Q]

Romney/Ryan...

[kiki]

This time Obama really needs his help....I hope Obama wins this again, though. How there could possibly be a Republican Preseident in 2012 is beyond me.

Also I wonder if Em decided to do it in response to the Will the Real Mitt Romney Please Stand Up Video.

[mdemaz]

He should perform White America; it would clear the room really quick.

[EminemBase]

Fuck Obama, Romney and the rest of those corporate clowns.

Ron Paul is THE thinking man's candidate, disappointed Em can't see it. Maybe he hasn't seen much of him, Ron Paul is revolutionary. The rest of those fucks are business as usual.

[EminemBase]

This time Obama really needs his help....I hope Obama wins this again, though. How there could possibly be a Republican Preseident in 2012 is beyond me.

Well try looking up Ron Paul and have it not be beyond you.

Ron Paul runs as a republican but really he's a libertarian; he just runs as a major party so he doesn't get side-swiped by the corrupt media, although they're trying to do that anyway.

People are so blinded by this bullshit Obama fairytale. Obama wants to continue invasions, he wants bigger government; he's a corporate fuck head who wants to grow the complexes like every piece of shit in office before him. The fact he's half black does not make him different.

Ron Paul = for actual change (legalizing drugs, eventually closing down and ending many pointless and corrupt government structures and departments that interfere with your personal habits or daily lives) - he's for smaller government, more personal liberty and ending those bullshit foreign invasions, fore-fronted by special interests; disguised as 'spreading democracy'

RP is the only honest, sane and intelligent politician on this scale I've seen since JFK. Obama is a repeat, he thinks like fucking Romney aka a moron, they're all for continuing the status quo - no matter what shitty policy they may tinker with here or there, or whatever shitty little bills they try and pass which introduce another 50 regulations on the current 50,000 regulations; none of them are truthful or truly logical, none of them are for real liberty or change.

[kiki]

^^ did you get paid for that?

[EminemBase]

^^ did you get paid for that?

Did you actually use your brain to process the information?

Do you actually listen to what Obama says? do you actually know what he's about? or are you stuck on autopilot and think 'Bush was a republican... Obama isn't... Obama is black and that's historic so WOW YEAH DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHOO!'.

Tell me why you want Obama for 2012?

[kiki]

^^ I don't have a brain, I'm a robot.

Btw I'm not into legalizing drugs. Ron Paul looks funny, like some old grandpa you wanna cuddle with.
Wikipedia tells me he's pro-life rather than pro- choice. Regardless of the fact that this doesn't affect me at all, because in my country we are pro-choice - why would I wanna vote for him if I was American? Feel free to lecture me about his views on health care though. Wikipedia isn't very informative about it.

Other than that - there's no way the Republicans will have Paul over Romney so why bother?

And where did I say anything about Obama being black so re-elect him? Please do NOT put words in my mouth. Why Obama you ask? Well if you can choose between Plague and Cholera you have to make a decision. And since it's going to be Romney vs. Obama I made my choice, but lucky you I can't vote in your country!

[EminemBase]

Btw I'm not into legalizing drugs.

Why not? you think the Government should be able to control your personal habits?

Are you for illegalizing cigarettes and alcohol then? what about butter and sugar?

Ron Paul is less about advocating drug use; more about promoting freedom of CHOICE and personal liberty. Making drugs illegal solves nothing and causes a SHIT-LOAD of problems.

How successful has this 'war on drugs' been? all it does is create a crime industry that wouldn't exist without it. Drug dealers couldn't be drug dealers if they weren't illegal; you'd also irradiate millions of deaths from impure, street-cut, shitty drugs. And decriminalize a personal habit.

The people who want to take drugs, take them anyway. And the people who don't want to take them, don't and wouldn't. This idea that you need to make heroin illegal or everybody would be a heroin addict is completely moronic. Cigerettes are legal, does everybody smoke?

Regardless of all of this, the Government should have zero say, in your personal habits.

Wikipedia tells me he's pro-life rather than pro- choice. Regardless of the fact that this doesn't affect me at all, because in my country we are pro-choice - why would I wanna vote for him if I was American? Feel free to lecture me about his views on health care though. Wikipedia isn't very informative about it.

Well Ron Paul says he would be pro-choice, but that he wouldn't legislate that.

This is why he is so important and different; he thinks the Government should have no say in that either. It's not a federal issue; it's a philosophical / human issue, and do you really think corporate America or those in Congress are the wisest philosophers in the land?

I disagree with Paul on abortion, but he says regardless, he wouldn't make his view a law. He would stay out of it: just as it should be. All the Government was set up to do by the founders, and all they should do - is protect your freedoms, and protect the nation. Creating laws and regulations around personal habits, philosophical issues and meddling in every single industry (there's a medical industrial complex now) is not what that is. That's just insanity, it's gone too far.

The problem that Paul recognizes is that Government is now too big, way bigger than is ethically manageable hence the disconnection from the people, hence the insane layers of corruption and total domination of special interests. He wants to reverse this; Obama wants to continue it.

Paul is even for abolishing income-tax because he thinks people should keep the fruits of their labour. What presidential candidate this side of the 21st century have you EVER heard express views as bold as that? He's a normal person on the inside; a doctor and an intellectual.

Forget the fact he's ""republican"" / forget branding him with a political badge as he doesn't think that way, he's just playing within the rules of the system to try and bring about change.

Obama is not change. It really makes no difference which of them gets in; Obama, Romney... it doesn't matter, they're cut from the same cloth and want the same things. Do you really think it's going to make that much of a difference? Ron Paul is COMPLETELY different.

Oh, and it's not "my" country, I'm not American. I'm British.

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I don't want to argue, Just please, watch this...



Ron Paul understands how economics work, he predicted the collapse of the economy six years prior, he's an intellectual who actually analyzes and understands things - not some fool who jumps on soundbites or tries to win votes by hopping views.

[kiki]

Btw I'm not into legalizing drugs.

Why not? you think the Government should be able to control your personal habits?

Are you for illegalizing cigarettes and alcohol then? what about butter and sugar?

I knew this was going to come and once again I realize that there is a gap between what Americans consider personal freedom and what Europeans believe it is. But then again, many Americans believe they will soon be a socialist country if that health care reform passes....I don't think we need to go into that, because I'm sure we both could write books about it.

But speaking of a shitload of problems because illegal drugs aren't legalized - I don't think legalizing illegal drugs is going to cause less problems. The problems will just shift.

How successful has this 'war on drugs' been? all it does is create a crime industry that wouldn't exist without it. Drug dealers couldn't be drug dealers if they weren't illegal; you'd also irradiate millions of deaths from impure, street-cut, shitty drugs. And decriminalize a personal habit.

Hmmm for one I enjoy coming to the US, because compared to my country zero people smoke and that's a relief. As far as illegal drugs do you really think the crime industry wouldn't exist if they were legal? Again personal habit? Yeah, no.

The people who want to take drugs, take them anyway. And the people who don't want to take them, don't and wouldn't. This idea that you need to make heroin illegal or everybody would be a heroin addict is completely moronic. Cigerettes are legal, does everybody smoke?

First two sentences are true. However if something is legal it's easier to obtain it. So yes it could actually produce more addicts. Look at the fucking smokers in Germany. Daily I see KIDS (starting from 12 years onwards!) smoking just because they can buy them just like that (officially you have to be 18 to buy cigs but no one controls it soo....).

Regardless of all of this, the Government should have zero say, in your personal habits.

Yeah i know if my personal habit is to shoot people instead of doves I totally agree that the Government should shut the fuck up about it. Seriously, you can't justify everything by saying it's your/a personal habit.

do you really think corporate America or those in Congress the wisest philosophers in the land?

I never thought that, what makes you think I did?

I disagree with Paul on abortion, but he says regardless, he wouldn't make his view a law. He would stay out of it: just as it should be. Personal liberty is not Government business.

Stay out of it? Well then everything would remain as it is right?

The problem that Paul recognizes is that Government is now too big, way bigger than is ethically manageable hence the disconnection from the people, hence the insane layers of corruption and total domination of special interests. He wants to reverse this; Obama wants to continue it.

What makes you believe that IF he gets elected (Paul) he wouldn't be playing the game as well? You don't get a guarantee from him for that.

Paul is even for abolishing income-tax because he thinks people should keep the fruits of their labour. What presidential candidate this side of the 21st century have you EVER heard express views as bold as that? He's a normal person on the inside; a doctor and an intellectual.

Ummm plenty of my country's (Germany) politicians say that right before an election. That has nothing to do with intellectuality (is that the right noun?). They even said it last election and then didn't do it, but they were elected. Sweet huh?

Forget the fact he's ""republican"" / forget branding him with a political badge as he doesn't think that way, he's just playing within the rules of the system to try and bring about change.

Yeah I'm sure running for the prebulican patry and saying "Actually I'm not a Republican" won't get him too many votes.

Obama is not change. It really makes no difference which of them gets in; Obama, Romney... it doesn't matter, they're cut from the same cloth and want the same things. Do you really think it's going to make that much of a difference? Ron Paul is COMPLETELY different.

It's been 4 years, there's not much Obama could have done so far, because a lot of shit in progress wasn't his decision.

Oh, and it's not "my" country, I'm not American. I'm British.

Thanks for telling me this NOW. This information is kind of vital to the argument isn't it? Also it puts my statement about alcohol and cigarettes into perspective.

Ron Paul understands how economics work, he predicted the collapse of the economy six years prior, he's an intellectual who actually analyzes and understands things - not some fool who jumps on soundbites or tries to win votes by hopping views.

May that be as it is but I bet my a$$ he#s not the only intellectual who predicted this. I bet the government or those on Wall Street were aware of this as well - no one talked about it, though. Everyone was trying to hide their $$$.

This is so way off topic...I'm happy to see Em perform at this thing.

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I dont think he will be doing white america LOL

[Squiggles123]

He should perform White America; it would clear the room really quick.

Or Mosh haha

:n: Fuck Obama, Romney and the rest of those corporate clowns.

Ron Paul is THE thinking man's candidate, disappointed Em can't see it. Maybe he hasn't seen much of him, Ron Paul is revolutionary. The rest of those fucks are business as usual.

The world would change if this man was in power, at least if he stayed true to his word. He's the only politician I trust, he stands up for whats right and the constitution.

(I'm not even American but Ron Paul gives me hope, unfortunately very unlikely he'll ever be president)

[EminemBase]

:n: Fuck Obama, Romney and the rest of those corporate clowns.

Ron Paul is THE thinking man's candidate, disappointed Em can't see it. Maybe he hasn't seen much of him, Ron Paul is revolutionary. The rest of those fucks are business as usual.

The world would change if this man was in power, at least if he stayed true to his word. He's the only politician I trust, he stands up for whats right and the constitution.

(I'm not even American but Ron Paul gives me hope, unfortunately very unlikely he'll ever be president)

Absolutely.

@kiki - responding to your post now...