Eminem's greatest asset (without this his songs suck)

[tadpole25]

Eminem's greatest asset is PASSION.

Notice his weakest albums (which were still better than most of the albums released in that time period): Encore and Relapse. I agree Encore was a catchy album, but the lyrics were simplistic and most of the songs weren't meaningful. Encore was probably his least controversial album at the time too. Encore didn't have much passion because Em was already the most famous rapper in the world and wasn't as hungry for success. Relapse had great lyrical prowess, but even though he was using a lot of words, he really wasn't speaking much from the heart. And I doubt those horror songs were Slim Shady, they were just detached ramblings.

His most acclaimed albums: Eminem Show, Marshall Mathers LP, Recovery all have in common that he had a lot of passion in the album.

He wasn't just staying at one spot and coasting. He was actively trying to push new ground and make a point. Whether it was to show where he came up from, how the media treats him, what he apologizes for, how he feels about his family, about fame, his best songs were always when they came from the heart and were driven by deep emotion. Even some of his funny songs were driven by actually passion, and they had emotional undercurrents. Relapse, Encore (and Re-Up), while they had a lot of assets, they didn't have passion.

[infinite2hts]

Yeah in Recovery Em was definitely hungry. After getting so much shit from Everyone due to relapse he just had to prove himself and be back at top.
for relapse well his emotions were not outbursting as in recovery but he was definitely focused and created a concept album.
But ur argument that without Passion his song sucks is flawed cuz many emotional songs on recovery are not on PAR with the LEVEL of STAY WIDE AWAKE <- This song is not about his hunger for success. its just a serial killer concept song and yet regarded as par with his vintage material

[LIL_B]

Notice his weakest albums (which were still better than most of the albums released in that time period): Encore and Relapse.

this make me laugh

[Kill You]

Relapse DOES have some sort of passion...it's called anger. He comes back ready to bite the head off of anyone he doesn't deem worthy.

[TheGentlePlayer]

Relapse was great man. Come on

[Cheers]

Yeah passion/emotion and making music from the heart is what makes Eminem who he is that's when he makes timeless music when it has passion, emotion and is real.

[Cheers]

Yeah in Recovery Em was definitely hungry. After getting so much shit from Everyone due to relapse he just had to prove himself and be back at top.
for relapse well his emotions were not outbursting as in recovery but he was definitely focused and created a concept album.
But ur argument that without Passion his song sucks is flawed cuz many emotional songs on recovery are not on PAR with the LEVEL of STAY WIDE AWAKE <- This song is not about his hunger for success. its just a serial killer concept song and yet regarded as par with his vintage material

Yeah after dropping a weak album with Relapse that couldn't be listened to after 1-2 listens and an album with that kinda content and lack of replay. He came back and dropped a monster of a great album with Recovery straight passion.

[Kill You]

Yeah in Recovery Em was definitely hungry. After getting so much shit from Everyone due to relapse he just had to prove himself and be back at top.
for relapse well his emotions were not outbursting as in recovery but he was definitely focused and created a concept album.
But ur argument that without Passion his song sucks is flawed cuz many emotional songs on recovery are not on PAR with the LEVEL of STAY WIDE AWAKE <- This song is not about his hunger for success. its just a serial killer concept song and yet regarded as par with his vintage material

Yeah after dropping a weak album with Relapse that couldn't be listened to after 1-2 listens and an album with that kinda content and lack of replay. He came back and dropped a monster of a great album with Recovery straight passion.

Relapse is my most bumped Eminem album after The Eminem Show. Destroys your argument "couldn't be listened to after 1-2 listens." Relapse is NOT a weak album. In fact it's very strong and cohesive. I'm guessing you believe Encore is better than Relapse too?

[Cheers]

Yeah in Recovery Em was definitely hungry. After getting so much shit from Everyone due to relapse he just had to prove himself and be back at top.
for relapse well his emotions were not outbursting as in recovery but he was definitely focused and created a concept album.
But ur argument that without Passion his song sucks is flawed cuz many emotional songs on recovery are not on PAR with the LEVEL of STAY WIDE AWAKE <- This song is not about his hunger for success. its just a serial killer concept song and yet regarded as par with his vintage material

Yeah after dropping a weak album with Relapse that couldn't be listened to after 1-2 listens and an album with that kinda content and lack of replay. He came back and dropped a monster of a great album with Recovery straight passion.

Relapse is my most bumped Eminem album after The Eminem Show. Destroys your argument "couldn't be listened to after 1-2 listens." Relapse is NOT a weak album. In fact it's very strong and cohesive. I'm guessing you believe Encore is better than Relapse too?

That is you though i am talking about me i don't care about what you bump i gave my opinion.

[Kill You]

That is you though i am talking about me i don't care about what you bump i gave my opinion.

First off, you do care or you wouldn't argue back.

Second off, you never said anything about your opinion. You said "Relapse is a weak album and can't be bumped after 1-2 listens" as if it was fact. You never said anything about YOUR opinion.



PS: I would still LOVE to hear your answer on whether or not Encore is better than Relapse.

[Cheers]

That is you though i am talking about me i don't care about what you bump i gave my opinion.

First off, you do care or you wouldn't argue back.

Second off, you never said anything about your opinion. You said "Relapse is a weak album and can't be bumped after 1-2 listens" as if it was fact. You never said anything about YOUR opinion.



PS: I would still LOVE to hear your answer on whether or not Encore is better than Relapse.

Mockingbird, We As Americans, Mosh, Spend Some Time, Ricky Ticky Tock, Like Toy Soldier, Love You More>>>>>>>>any song on Relapse not named Beautiful and Deja Vu the content, song writting, emotion, substance, hooks, beats in these songs can't compare to the bad content, serial killing raps on Relapse

[Man In The Mirror]

Yeah after dropping a weak album with Relapse that couldn't be listened to after 1-2 listens and an album with that kinda content and lack of replay. He came back and dropped a monster of a great album with Recovery straight passion.

Come on...
You love SSLP, ye? You love MMLP, ye?
RELAPSE IS THE SAME THING! But with accents and another type of beats. It's lyrical as fuck, he take shots at all the current big stars, he makes a fool of his mom and dad, he talks about drugs. I think songs like Beautiful and Crack A Bottle sucks but the rest are up there with MMLP and SSLP. The only difference is that "The Way I Am"-type songs aren't on there, but songs like My Name Is, I'm Back, Remeber Me and so on has songs on Relapse that are similar. Havn't you listend to the lyrics? Just because he screams on Recovery doesn't mean he's back to that evil, angry, blonde we all love.

[Cheers]

Yeah after dropping a weak album with Relapse that couldn't be listened to after 1-2 listens and an album with that kinda content and lack of replay. He came back and dropped a monster of a great album with Recovery straight passion.

Come on...
You love SSLP, ye? You love MMLP, ye?
RELAPSE IS THE SAME THING! But with accents and another type of beats. It's lyrical as fuck, he take shots at all the current big stars, he makes a fool of his mom and dad, he talks about drugs. I think songs like Beautiful and Crack A Bottle sucks but the rest are up there with MMLP and SSLP. The only difference is that "The Way I Am"-type songs aren't on there, but songs like My Name Is, I'm Back, Remeber Me and so on has songs on Relapse that are similar. Havn't you listend to the lyrics? Just because he screams on Recovery doesn't mean he's back to that evil, angry, blonde we all love.

My fave Eminem album is The Eminem Show. My fave song from The Slim Shady LP is Rock Bottom/If I Had these songs made me a fan they are timeless to me, my fave song from The marshall Mathers LP is The Way I Am. Only song i really loved from Relapse are Beautiful and Deja Vu. The reason i don't like Relapse is cos i think the content, subject matter, topics are poor, i thought the production was below average and the accent was also wack. But Beautiful and Deja Vu were gems like diamonds in the dirt on that album. I like the emotional and deep Eminem that's the Eminem we all love maybe not you but most.

[Mathers]

^^
So you think the production on Recovery is better than Relapse?

[Cheers]

^^
So you think the production on Recovery is better than Relapse?

No the Production on Relapse is better but both albums had weak production