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Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby Slim Fiasco » Feb 16th, '13, 22:24

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I was just listening to some of L's freestyles and got reminded of how cool him and Em are, and while I think that Em is the better rapper, L is right behind him in couple of aspects:

Flow/Voice - These guys pretty much have the smoothest flows ever and they are both characterized with voices that pierce through the speakers. I'd actually put Mos Def at #2 when it comes to flow and delivery, but thing is that Em and Big L have the best enunciation skills. Em (in his prime) and L always sound extremely clear regardless the pace and volume.

Sense Of Humor - Em and Big L are the only rappers that have made me laugh on constant basis. Em is more of a witty guy with a nonchalant delivery, while L set up his punch-lines with perfection and relied more on being offensive. Of course, they both excel at the "being pissed off" delivery and a lot of their lines sound funny as fuck just because they would get so tensed when saying them. Like with L, in the famous '98 freestyle, other than the Beavis & Butt-head/but head line, he adds that "If my girl thinks I'm loyal then that bitch is a fool", which is just hilarious.

Freestyles - When it comes to freestyles (yeah, the written ones), L and Em (SSLP era) are kinda the most exciting rappers. They took great pride in the quality of their verses and were very serious about them. With most MCs, when they drop a freestyle, it's like for the sake of it, and the radio hosts usually don't get involved, but with Em and L, there are a lot of sessions when the hosts burst out laughing all the time. And when you hear that in the background, and with the fact that L and Em would remain serious, it just adds to the fun and the atmosphere surrounding the session. And say what you want about Complex, but it's no coincidence that L and Em took the number 1 and 2 spots on their list of best freestyles.

Rhyming - These two are also the best rounded rhymers. Their mutlies are rarely forced and seem to blend in with the rest of the verse perfectly, and they're just a subtle detail rather than the focus of the rap. And again, I'm talking about prime Em here. They also took mutlies to the next level in comparison to the rappers from their eras.

This is just my opinion of course, but I don't think that anyone would disagree that Em (especially around 1998-1999) and Big L would've made a perfect duo.
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby RoleModel'Est96 » Feb 16th, '13, 22:32

I really enjoy your posts and love how you break things down. Enjoyable read! And I agree. Its a shame we would never see the magic these two would have been able to produce on a track. A dream posse cut of mine would be Em, Big L, Redman, Big Pun and Biggie.
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby master360 » Feb 17th, '13, 00:58

Em and Big L
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby Jimmy Conway » Feb 17th, '13, 01:05

Big L had a lot of potential. Too bad he never made it long enough to get some top notch production. He has a few great songs, a lot of shitty ones. If he would have signed with Jay Z, I think he would have really done some nice stuff.

I think the majority of his freestyles were written. A lot of rappers say that they have a couple things written, then just freestyle the majority.

But I think it is the other way around.

before I buck lead, and make a lot of blood shed
Turn your tux red, I'm far from broke, got enough bread
And mad hoes, ask Beavis I get nuttin Butt-head
My game is, vicious and cruel
Fuckin chicks is a rule
If my girl think I'm loyal then that bitch is a fool

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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby ShadyxEminem » Feb 17th, '13, 02:38

It's hard to say Eminem is better than another great rapper without feeling like a Stan :zipped:
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby Kill You » Feb 17th, '13, 04:39

ShadyxEminem wrote:It's hard to say Eminem is better than another great rapper without feeling like a Stan :zipped:


But if you truly believe it then there should be no problem.
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby Slim Fiasco » Feb 17th, '13, 12:11

RoleModel'Est96 wrote:I really enjoy your posts and love how you break things down. Enjoyable read! And I agree. Its a shame we would never see the magic these two would have been able to produce on a track. A dream posse cut of mine would be Em, Big L, Redman, Big Pun and Biggie.
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Thanks man, and it's such a shame indeed. I wonder if L at least got to find out who Em was.
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby RoleModel'Est96 » Feb 17th, '13, 12:23

Slim Fiasco wrote:
RoleModel'Est96 wrote:I really enjoy your posts and love how you break things down. Enjoyable read! And I agree. Its a shame we would never see the magic these two would have been able to produce on a track. A dream posse cut of mine would be Em, Big L, Redman, Big Pun and Biggie.
One can wish...


Thanks man, and it's such a shame indeed. I wonder if L at least got to find out who Em was.

He must've. I'm sure everyone was intrigued about the white battler signing with Dre. I know Pun knew about Em though and that he liked him.
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby Slim Fiasco » Feb 17th, '13, 12:48

RoleModel'Est96 wrote:
Slim Fiasco wrote:
RoleModel'Est96 wrote:I really enjoy your posts and love how you break things down. Enjoyable read! And I agree. Its a shame we would never see the magic these two would have been able to produce on a track. A dream posse cut of mine would be Em, Big L, Redman, Big Pun and Biggie.
One can wish...


Thanks man, and it's such a shame indeed. I wonder if L at least got to find out who Em was.

He must've. I'm sure everyone was intrigued about the white battler signing with Dre. I know Pun knew about Em though and that he liked him.


Haha, yeah, that's a good argument.
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby EminemInsider » Feb 17th, '13, 15:58

They certainly had similar approaches in the radio "freestyles." I think Big L may have been a key influence for Eminem. It certainly makes more sense than the morons who claim Masta Ace retroactively influenced Eminem with his 2001-and-beyond music.
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby Eminemeatinm&m » Feb 17th, '13, 16:58

"...Big L got blasted away..."
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby Slim Fiasco » Feb 17th, '13, 18:30

Eminemeatinm&m wrote:"...Big L got blasted away..."


And moreover: "Take some Big and some Pac and you mix em up in a pot/ Sprinkle a little Big L on top, what the fuck do you got?"
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Re: Eminem & Big L: Common Traits

Postby Kathy » Feb 19th, '13, 02:23

I love Big L, wish him and Em had collabed.
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