Regarding Relapse conspiracy theories on here

[BlueberryWun]

A fair amount of people on here have alledged that Interscope and Jimmy Lovine in particular advised him or encouradged him to change direction of Relapse 2. Now Relapse has sold over 5 million copies in the U.S. alone, had a number 1 single with Crack A Bottle, sold 700K first week, won a grammy award. Jimmy Lovine got paid from it's sales as did Em, Dre and who ever ele. with 5 million sold in America and even more worlwide. Jimmy is laughing all the way to the bank not that Jimmy needs to make a great deal of money anymore anyway he is a multi millionaire. But regardless the album made everyone involved a huge amount of profit and is still selling. So why would Jimmy or Paul or who ever care about the theme or anything when it is making everyone involved profit? When you look at the fact it really points to what Em said all along he was unhappy with the product for the reasons he explained.

[Trimss]

Except Relapse didn't even reach 3 millions.

[Francesco]

First of all Relapse was re released to even pass 2 mills US sales & to catch albums that passed it on the way. It was stuck on a mill & a half doing 10k a week.
Recovery's sales is what they were looking for & that is what they got. Eminem is not an ordinary rapper so when he can't even get to 2 mills it's a problem. That meant they had to stop the already announced Relapse 2 & re release the original one with new songs which was sell out (esp. cuz they added Forever too) but they at least got what they wanted.

Relapse was dope but it didn't go where they wanted it to go commercially.

[BlueberryWun]

Except Relapse didn't even reach 3 millions.

It's current sales are over 3 million. By the time Recovery was released in 2010 Relapse had sold 3 million in America. It was the highest selling album since the Carter 3 and has gone on to out sell it.

[Mathers]

Relapse has sold 5 million worldwide not in the US and it hasn't reached 3 million yet.

[BlueberryWun]

Keeping in mind the production on Relapse was in house there was no outside features. The amount it sold the year it came out to the amount it has currently sold both in the U.S. and worldwide and the sell out tours he had for that album. In context that is hella profit for Jimmy Lovine or any other person wearing a suit at Interscope. When you put it into perspective it's an album that sold 700K first week in an era where downloading is so heavy and went on to reach the 5 million mark. Some years later on. It just seem like when you look at it like that analyze the whole picture it was all Em's choice and what he saying about not being happy after listening to it more than once add's up.

[Dante]

nigga what are you even talking about

[BlueberryWun]

***** what are you even talking about

To put it simply it made Jimmy and others a lotta profit so why would they care what he rapping about as long as it is making profit and selling across the world. A lotta people on here seem to think people influenced Em to abandon R2 and that he lying about not liking R1 after going back to listening to it

[NeverSincerely]

First of all Relapse was re released to even pass 2 mills US sales & to catch albums that passed it on the way. It was stuck on a mill & a half doing 10k a week.
Recovery's sales is what they were looking for & that is what they got. Eminem is not an ordinary rapper so when he can't even get to 2 mills it's a problem. That meant they had to stop the already announced Relapse 2 & re release the original one with new songs which was sell out (esp. cuz they added Forever too) but they at least got what they wanted.

Relapse was dope but it didn't go where they wanted it to go commercially.

The re-release didn't help as much as you think for Relapse to reach 2million in sales. It reached the 2 million mark a month or so after the release of Recovery. Which would be over 7 months after the re-release, so you can't give the re-release all the credit for Relapse passing the 2 million mark. 2.3 million in sales in the U.S and over 5.5 million worldwide, and 9 million singles sold in 2009 alone isn't a problem commercially at all. Not many albums have sold that well in recent times. The commercial success had nothing to do with scrapping Relapse 2, it was the negative feed back from the fans and critics.

Also it didnt do 700K first week. More like 400+K

It sold 608k first week in the U.S, 160k first week in the UK, 60k first week in Canada, and a million copies in total worldwide in it's first week.

[BlueberryWun]

Also it didnt do 700K first week. More like 400+K

No lmao where did you get that from

[BlueberryWun]

Is it also true that during Em's break he asked Dr Dre's son what do the public wanna hear from me what direction shall i go for my comeback album. And Dre's son said to him the crazy shady style is what people wanna hear and that basically was the main influence in him recording Relapse. Because he felt that is what people wanted to hear? I heard this story thrown around but not sure if it is true.

[Trimss]

You do know that not even Recovery has sold 5 millions in the Us right? I'mtelling you Relapse barely sold 3 millions.. Not even that..

[Him Shadow]

wait... I thought it's Jimmy Iovine not Jimmy Lovine

[Francesco]

First of all Relapse was re released to even pass 2 mills US sales & to catch albums that passed it on the way. It was stuck on a mill & a half doing 10k a week.
Recovery's sales is what they were looking for & that is what they got. Eminem is not an ordinary rapper so when he can't even get to 2 mills it's a problem. That meant they had to stop the already announced Relapse 2 & re release the original one with new songs which was sell out (esp. cuz they added Forever too) but they at least got what they wanted.

Relapse was dope but it didn't go where they wanted it to go commercially.

The re-release didn't help as much as you think for Relapse to reach 2million in sales. It reached the 2 million mark a month or so after the release of Recovery. Which would be over 7 months after the re-release, so you can't give the re-release all the credit for Relapse passing the 2 million mark. 2.3 million in sales in the U.S and over 5.5 million worldwide, and 9 million singles sold in 2009 alone isn't a problem commercially at all. Not many albums have sold that well in recent times. The commercial success had nothing to do with scrapping Relapse 2, it was the negative feed back from the fans and critics.

Bullshit all the way... Relapse was stuck on a mill & a half selling 10k a week & then it did 160k or so first week after the re release & then it kept going with 50k for two months or so. Both Jay's & BEP's albums started with like half of Relapse's first week sales & were already comfortably ahead of it before the re release. The fact they re released the album speaks volumes... they would never do that if they were satisfied with the number they got. It was a big fail to cancel an album that has been officially announced & they acted like they were re releasing Relapse so people would be still able to hear some of it but it was rather stupid. Again... adding Forever on it made it clear it was a all about numbers.
The lower sales & the reception has anything to do with them scrapping Relapse2.
That guy whole theory is totally off... I am not sure he was even following closely what was happening at the time 'cuz that whole thing sounds like Don Quixote kinda theory.

[LMShady]

I just don't think Em liked it that much... afterwards anyway.