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Was Stan Premature?

Postby Kukahara » Aug 11th, '14, 20:33

When Stan was written, Eminem had only 1 album out. It's a brilliant song, of course, but was he famous on the level where someone would be obsessed with him?
I don't know how big and popular Eminem was with SSLP alone, but I always felt like he wasn't THAT famous that someone would stalk him and kill himself because of him. It would have made more sense if Stan was released after MMLP, when he was the biggest celebrity around.
Don't get me wrong, the song stands on it's own no matter what. It's just that it seems a bit premature at the time considering he only had one album out.

I may be underestimating how big he was when SSLP came out.
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby TonyTilt » Aug 11th, '14, 20:35

Stan was perfect and I think it was released at a perfect time. Couldn't have been any more perfect imo. Stan blew people away, still does.
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby EvryOnesACrtc » Aug 11th, '14, 20:46

It was perfect then because that was the time that people, including a lot of his fans, couldn't really tell if he was actually crazy or if he was just doing it as a schtick. That was one of the things Stan, the character, struggled to decipher. After this period, though, when he came out with more serious songs like The Way I Am and then entered into The Eminem Show era there was no doubt in people's minds that he was just a regular guy with a vivid imagination.
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby Mr Evil » Aug 11th, '14, 20:49

Phew. I got the complete wrong idea from the title :sweating:

And what those guys said ^
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby sbolli1 » Aug 11th, '14, 20:56

Em was confident enough in knowing just how big MMLP was going to be. That's one of the most amazing things about MMLP, how he basically foresaw the popularity and backlash that would eventually come from releasing the album.
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby Ares » Aug 11th, '14, 21:01

I think it was the perfect timing. It showed how confident he was back then. Noone would expect him to release such a track at that point of his career.
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby OutlawƎ » Aug 11th, '14, 21:02

EvryOnesACrtc wrote:It was perfect then because that was the time that people, including a lot of his fans, couldn't really tell if he was actually crazy or if he was just doing it as a schtick. That was one of the things Stan, the character, struggled to decipher. After this period, though, when he came out with more serious songs like The Way I Am and then entered into The Eminem Show era there was no doubt in people's minds that he was just a regular guy with a vivid imagination.

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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby Him Shadow » Aug 11th, '14, 21:04

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxg9axJSKas

she's not that crazy tho
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby slims » Aug 11th, '14, 21:05

People still think he's crazy though.
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby OutlawƎ » Aug 11th, '14, 21:09

Melanie wrote:People still think he's crazy though.

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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby bingo bongo » Aug 11th, '14, 22:00

I find myself feeling the same about the whole homophobia thing. I mean, I think his constant jabs at people who got offended for his use of the word faggot should have come after MMLP. It's like he wrote Criminal foreshadowing the reactions of the public to the previous songs in the album
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby Dirrt » Aug 11th, '14, 22:04

What TT said
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby Elision » Aug 12th, '14, 00:00

Kukahara wrote:I don't know how big and popular Eminem was with SSLP
Kukahara wrote:I may be underestimating how big he was when SSLP came out.
Em was massive leading up to MMLP and he was only getting bigger every day, i remember it vividly. the song was absolutely necessary.
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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby shadyblogger » Aug 12th, '14, 00:03

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Re: Was Stan Premature?

Postby Emadyville » Aug 12th, '14, 04:14

I've said this for fucking years...that song was amazing but premature in the sense that, he was that genius to have the foresight for such a concept. this is the type of shit that blows my mind. this type of song, to me, should have not have happened until at the least after the mmlp, but would make even more sense after tes. this is what makes him great. he had a concept like that after one album. i've said it for many years, shit like this is what makes him THAT great.
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