The TRshady Forum became read-only in December 2014. The 10 year history will live on, in this archive.
Continue the discussion with the new home for the Eminem and Hip Hop discussion: HipHopShelter.com.

Mistake in "Stan"

All questions and discussions on Eminem to be found here.

Mistake in "Stan"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 00:35

This seems like a pretty... Odd mistake. Like too big not to notice, especially given the amount of times he goes over rhymes in his head and re-writes shit.

I've always noticed it and it's always bugged me a bit lmao.

He says:
"I know you probably hear this everyday but I'm your biggest fan"

Then about his brother he says:
"He wants to be just like you man, he likes you more than I do"

So he stresses he's his biggest fan but then says his own brother likes him more than he does in the next verse lol. I know Stan is a psycho so contradicting himself shouldn't seem so out of the ordinary.

But just seems like a pretty... Obvious mistake for him to make :confusion:...
User avatar
EminemBase
Addict
Addict
 
Posts: 10007
Joined: Dec 10th, '09, 06:37
Location: Inside your mind famalamalamalam.
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby bullet_boy46 » Jan 9th, '10, 00:39

that motherfucking pencil noise :scratching:
Solace wrote:Oh stop your making me blush :blinking:

Image
User avatar
bullet_boy46
Soldier
Soldier
 
Posts: 1109
Joined: Sep 24th, '09, 19:10
Location: New York, West Brighton

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Emadyville » Jan 9th, '10, 00:41

I believe there is a difference between a fan and liking someone.

He is em's biggest fan, but his brother likes him more than he does.

Think of it this way, people can love someones music but never buy a cd, not care about their music videos, buying merchandise etc, but can like them more than a big fan. For instance, people on this site criticize him all the time, even though most would claim to be huge fans.

It's not a mistake, I hope that cleared it up :y:
Menzo wrote:Its cuz you're dope and Daddy Dubs. No one fucks with that


I love you Daren
User avatar
Emadyville
Django
Django
 
Posts: 24833
Joined: Jan 17th, '08, 15:58
Location: Catasauqua PA
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Cube23 » Jan 9th, '10, 00:42

bullet_boy46 wrote:that motherfucking pencil noise :scratching:


That bothers me, too. But only if I focus on it and think about how pointless it actually is. The beat is pretty dope, otherwise and the lyrics and story-telling ability are both some of Eminem's best.
Image
Cube23
Soldier
Soldier
 
Posts: 1845
Joined: Jul 20th, '09, 09:16

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 00:45

Emadyville wrote:I believe there is a difference between a fan and liking someone.

He is em's biggest fan, but his brother likes him more than he does.

Think of it this way, people can love someones music but never buy a cd, not care about their music videos, buying merchandise etc, but can like them more than a big fan. For instance, people on this site criticize him all the time, even though most would claim to be huge fans.

It's not a mistake, I hope that cleared it up :y:


I disagree. The way Em uses language like that, he's a metaphorical genius but he's pretty generic in... Subtext, I don't think he purposely defined the two in that way lol.

He just uses 'liked' as being a fan. Seems like a mistake to me still.

If you're somebody's biggest fan then you like them the most lmao. You can't be the biggest fan and just like them a bit. He means like you, not personally but like you as an artist, like your shit.
User avatar
EminemBase
Addict
Addict
 
Posts: 10007
Joined: Dec 10th, '09, 06:37
Location: Inside your mind famalamalamalam.
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Emadyville » Jan 9th, '10, 00:48

EminemBase wrote:I disagree. The way Em uses language like that, he's a metaphorical genius but he's pretty generic in... Subtext, I don't think he purposely defined the two in that way lol.

He just uses 'liked' as being a fan. Seems like a mistake to me still.

If you're somebody's biggest fan then you like them the most lmao. You can't be the biggest fan and just like them a bit. He means like you, not personally but like you as an artist, like your shit.


Well then you're an idiot and didn't read what I wrote :coffee:
Menzo wrote:Its cuz you're dope and Daddy Dubs. No one fucks with that


I love you Daren
User avatar
Emadyville
Django
Django
 
Posts: 24833
Joined: Jan 17th, '08, 15:58
Location: Catasauqua PA
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 00:50

Emadyville wrote:
EminemBase wrote:I disagree. The way Em uses language like that, he's a metaphorical genius but he's pretty generic in... Subtext, I don't think he purposely defined the two in that way lol.

He just uses 'liked' as being a fan. Seems like a mistake to me still.

If you're somebody's biggest fan then you like them the most lmao. You can't be the biggest fan and just like them a bit. He means like you, not personally but like you as an artist, like your shit.


Well then you're an idiot and didn't read what I wrote :coffee:


Actually I read exactly what you said that's how I was able to refute it and also do so without name calling.

But since you resorted to that, fuck you, you waste of spunk. You're the fucking idiot.
User avatar
EminemBase
Addict
Addict
 
Posts: 10007
Joined: Dec 10th, '09, 06:37
Location: Inside your mind famalamalamalam.
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Elision » Jan 9th, '10, 00:53

EminemBase wrote:This seems like a pretty... Odd mistake. Like too big not to notice, especially given the amount of times he goes over rhymes in his head and re-writes shit.

I've always noticed it and it's always bugged me a bit lmao.

He says:
"I know you probably hear this everyday but I'm your biggest fan"

Then about his brother he says:
"He wants to be just like you man, he likes you more than I do"

So he stresses he's his biggest fan but then says his own brother likes him more than he does in the next verse lol. I know Stan is a psycho so contradicting himself shouldn't seem so out of the ordinary.

But just seems like a pretty... Obvious mistake for him to make :confusion:...



When he performs it live he says "He likes you more than Dido". However, I do think that being a fan of someone's work, and liking them CAN be 2 separate things.

I don't think Em would have let a mistake like that get through in that track. I'm quite certain he did that deliberately.
i'm comin in, drivin my short bus
with this nose i don't need a torch up
bustin through, light the industry's porsche up
comin after who didn't support us...
imma change your brain bring
every wicked bit of strange to mainstream
-Tech N9ne #SpecialEffects2015
User avatar
Elision
Band Leader
Band Leader
 
Posts: 6708
Joined: Nov 29th, '09, 19:20
Location: Houston
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Emadyville » Jan 9th, '10, 00:56

Nollie wrote:When he performs it live he says "He likes you more than Dido".


I feel like he said "I do" but it just sounded like Dido, unless he was performing with Dido, which would be on a late night show or something :confusion:
Menzo wrote:Its cuz you're dope and Daddy Dubs. No one fucks with that


I love you Daren
User avatar
Emadyville
Django
Django
 
Posts: 24833
Joined: Jan 17th, '08, 15:58
Location: Catasauqua PA
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby squall » Jan 9th, '10, 00:57

Nollie wrote:
When he performs it live he says "He likes you more than Dido". However, I do think that being a fan of someone's work, and liking them CAN be 2 separate things.

I don't think Em would have let a mistake like that get through in that track. I'm quite certain he did that deliberately.


more than dido ? :confusion:

Naah its "I Do"
User avatar
squall
Trailer Trash
Trailer Trash
 
Posts: 154
Joined: Nov 15th, '09, 05:46
Location: Ghetto
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 9th, '10, 00:58

^ Well that's how I've always rationalized it as "he wouldn't make such a big mistake and not notice".

But he actually makes quite a lot of trivial grammatical mistakes if you look. Obviously, since he's had to teach himself it, it's going to happen.

One example is in "Cum on Everybody" he says...

"I'm bored out of my gored so I TOOK a hammer..."

I'M BORED = Present tense. As in, I'm bored... Right now.

I TOOK = Past tense. As in, I was bored, yesterday.

So to say "I'm bored... So I took" doesn't make sense really lol. But I think it's more to do with his natural Detroit grammar. Every inner-city (mine included) has like... Natural slang occurances in the way they speak that is wrong grammatically but becomes the norm in where they're from.
User avatar
EminemBase
Addict
Addict
 
Posts: 10007
Joined: Dec 10th, '09, 06:37
Location: Inside your mind famalamalamalam.
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Emadyville » Jan 9th, '10, 01:00

EminemBase wrote:^ Well that's how I've always rationalized it as "he wouldn't make such a big mistake and not notice".

But he actually makes quite a lot of trivial grammatical mistakes if you look. Obviously, since he's had to teach himself it, it's going to happen.

One example is in "Cum on Everybody" he says...

"I'm bored out of my gored so I TOOK a hammer..."

I'M BORED = Present tense. As in, I'm bored... Right now.

I TOOK = Past tense. As in, I was bored, yesterday.

So to say "I'm bored... So I took" doesn't make sense really lol. But I think it's more to do with his natural Detroit grammar. Every inner-city (mine included) has like... Natural slang occurances in the way they speak that is wrong grammatically but becomes the norm in where they're from.


You obviously don't rap, since you obviously don't understand how songs are written, you're 0-2 in this thread :shifty:
Menzo wrote:Its cuz you're dope and Daddy Dubs. No one fucks with that


I love you Daren
User avatar
Emadyville
Django
Django
 
Posts: 24833
Joined: Jan 17th, '08, 15:58
Location: Catasauqua PA
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Fa-Q » Jan 9th, '10, 01:02

There's a mistake in the Video too....in the vid the letter gets dropped on the floor, as if it was lost and never got to him. But Em mentions stuff from the first letter in his verse to stan
User avatar
Fa-Q
Pill Popper
Pill Popper
 
Posts: 8404
Joined: Dec 20th, '08, 21:15

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Omar Khalid » Jan 9th, '10, 01:02

EminemBase wrote:^ Well that's how I've always rationalized it as "he wouldn't make such a big mistake and not notice".

But he actually makes quite a lot of trivial grammatical mistakes if you look. Obviously, since he's had to teach himself it, it's going to happen.

One example is in "Cum on Everybody" he says...

"I'm bored out of my gored so I TOOK a hammer..."

I'M BORED = Present tense. As in, I'm bored... Right now.

I TOOK = Past tense. As in, I was bored, yesterday.

So to say "I'm bored... So I took" doesn't make sense really lol. But I think it's more to do with his natural Detroit grammar. Every inner-city (mine included) has like... Natural slang occurances in the way they speak that is wrong grammatically but becomes the norm in where they're from.


its not a mistake :coffee:
They claim that I'm violent, just cause I refuse to be silent
These hypocrites are havin fits, cause I'm not buyin it
Defyin it, envious because I will rebel against
any oppressor, and this is known as self defense
I show no mercy, they claim that I'm the lunatic
But when the shit gets thick, I'm the one you go and get
Don't look confused, the truth is so plain to see
Cause I'm the nigga that you sell-outs are ashamed to be
User avatar
Omar Khalid
Soldier
Soldier
 
Posts: 865
Joined: Oct 21st, '08, 13:00
Location: Palestine
Gender: Male

Re: Mistake in "Stan"

Postby Omar Khalid » Jan 9th, '10, 01:03

Fa-Q wrote:There's a mistake in the Video too....in the vid the letter gets dropped on the floor, as if it was lost and never got to him. But Em mentions stuff from the first letter in his verse to stan


:y:
They claim that I'm violent, just cause I refuse to be silent
These hypocrites are havin fits, cause I'm not buyin it
Defyin it, envious because I will rebel against
any oppressor, and this is known as self defense
I show no mercy, they claim that I'm the lunatic
But when the shit gets thick, I'm the one you go and get
Don't look confused, the truth is so plain to see
Cause I'm the nigga that you sell-outs are ashamed to be
User avatar
Omar Khalid
Soldier
Soldier
 
Posts: 865
Joined: Oct 21st, '08, 13:00
Location: Palestine
Gender: Male

Next

Return to Eminem



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users