He's dissing Giggles on No Love

[BrainsGambino]

... or at least that's what I'll be consoling myself with for the time being. I'm not saying he specifically wants beef. He obviously doesn't, judging by the Talkin' to Myself. But he's throwing subliminals in Giggles's direction on this one. Let's have a look at the lyrics ...

EMINEM: They say the competition is stiff
But I get a hard dick from this sh-t, now stick it in

Competition is stiff. After Em's initial downfall, this ... shit, this ABOMINATION of an artist by the name of Giggles has stepped in and filled the void, inexplicably. Regardless of the fact that he can't string together a halfway decent lyric, he's the king right now in terms of popularity. So the recovery of Em's career is an uphill battle due to the competition, but he doesn't care. He's excited by it. He'll throw that competition on a track beside him and show the world just how much better he is.

EMINEM: Look at these rappers, how I treat em
So why the f-ck would I join them when I beat em
GIGGLES: Yeah!

This is fairly straightforward, and I think it's the most blatant evidence for the fact that Em is collabing with Giggles in order to demonstrate his own skill by contrast. This could be a nod to fans like myself, who are aware of Giggles's tremendous lack of talent, and how tragic it would be if he and Em actually developed some sort of long-term alliance. Why would Em join Giggles when he's SO very many levels above him? And then of course we have Giggles doing his cry/scream/laugh thing in the background, saying "Yeah!" and affirming Em's treatment of his goofy little ass. The hilarity of that can't be lost on Em.

EMINEM: Man get these whack cocksuckers off stage
Where the fuck is Kanye when you need him?
Snatch the mic from him, bitch I'mma let you finish in a minute

Em's nearly flawless verse comes after Giggles's mediocre verse, just like Em's return to dominance comes after Giggles's reign of pathetic crybaby autotune, monosyllabic, rarely-rhyming, sloppy ass music. Chronologically, Em is basically snatching the mic from Giggles like Kanye snatched it from Taylor Swift. But Em will let him finish in a minute. Once he's done, hip-hop can go back to its shitty condition under Giggles, his Canadian teen soap opera sidekick, et all.

EMINEM: Yeah the rap is tight, But I'm
GIGGLES: Yeah!

The first verse was good (as many of you have been very passionate about), but ...

EMINEM: bout to spit the greatest verse of all time

... the first verse really doesn't matter because the second is miles and miles and miles ahead of that elementary school bullshit.

EMINEM: So you might want to go back to the lab tonight and um
GIGGLES: Yeah!
EMINEM: Scribble out them rhymes you were going to spit
And start over from scratch and write new ones
But I'm afraid that it ain't gonna make no difference

After hearing Eminem's verse, Giggles should have respectfully withdrawn his from the song, and went to work on a new one. However, fuck it. It wouldn't matter, because even if Giggles figured out that putting effort into writing actually yields decent lines, he would still suck in comparison to Em.

EMINEM: When I rip this stage and tear it in half tonight

This just goes back to the idea of contrast. Em is mingling with this talentless garbage partially to demonstrate how far ahead he is in comparison. Two rappers. Once is legendary, and one is a disgustingly inadequate lyricist. When Em spits his second verse, he basically rips the stage in half, demonstrating the stark contrast between their skill levels.

Like I said, I'm not saying they're not cool with each other. I'm aware that Eminem twittered some pro-Giggles shit basically while I was writing this post. But on some level, he's using the silly little crybaby to recover, mostly by demonstrating his superiority in black and white terms. If you think this is far-fetched, sorry, but this is how subliminals work. An emcee subliminally dissing his friend is not unheard of -- that's part of the reason for keeping the diss subliminal. It's nothing personal. Just a matter of skill.

[Emadyville]

What the fuck is going on

[Shit Can Happen]

I assume he's calling Weezy that because of that really really really annoying laugh Wayne does (like the one right after Em says "I like to spit on these pussies 'fore I eat 'em").

[Jaz]

"Why the fuck would I join em, when I beat em"

Well? Why would he join Weezy if this line was directed at him?

[ku53v]

Who the hell is Giggles?

[DaKidLilj]

Mann...get your dumbass of this forum. Sick and tired of people reaching thinking Em is dissing Wayne. If he didn't like Wayne, he wouldn't put him on the album. You: He will put him on the album to embarrass him. Me: No...just no. He would avoid putting him on the album period. Get over yourself.

[BrainsGambino]

Who the hell is Giggles?

Wow. The resemblance is freaking uncanny.

[SliK]

If you can't see how Wayne has influenced Recovery then you're a moron.

I'm sick of all these Wayne haters, where is the Eminem and Canibus collab? Where is the Eminem and Ja Rule collab? Where is the Eminem and Whitey Ford collab? Rappers don't collab with with other rappers they hate to show how much better they are, they fucking destroy them with disses. Nothing subliminal.

Like it or not, Wayne has held his own on every track he and Em have collabed on. I'm not saying Wayne was better (or even AS good) because he's not, but he isn't as horrible as you make out.

"You want me up in a cage then I'll come out in beast mode
I got this world stuck in a safe, combination is the G-code
It's Weezy motherfucker, blood game, and I'm in bleed mode"

[BrainsGambino]

If you can't see how Wayne has influenced Recovery then you're a moron.

I'm sick of all these Wayne haters, where is the Eminem and Canibus collab? Where is the Eminem and Ja Rule collab? Where is the Eminem and Whitey Ford collab? Rappers don't collab with with other rappers they hate to show how much better they are, they fucking destroy them with disses. Nothing subliminal.

Like it or not, Wayne has held his own on every track he and Em have collabed on. I'm not saying Wayne was better (or even AS good) because he's not, but he isn't as horrible as you make out.

"You want me up in a cage then I'll come out in beast mode
I got this world stuck in a safe, combination is the G-code
It's Weezy motherfucker, blood game, and I'm in bleed mode"

See you must not have read my long ass post. I specifically said that I'm sure they're cool with one another. Eminem obviously wasn't cool with Ja Rule or Canibus. My point is that he's contrasting himself from the wave of shit that comprises hip-hop today, which Giggles is at the forefront of. I'm not trying to say they're beefing.

[SliK]

Yeah I read every bit of it. Obviously I disagree or I wouldn't have said anything. You said Eminem is dissing Lil' Wayne. Well, he ain't. Let it go.

[Mxracer6y]

He's not dissing wayne. in any song. ever. enough.


I can do exactly what you just did, take a verse and turn it into a "subliminal" diss toward anyone you'd like

step 1: pick someone
step 2: ill pick a verse and tell you why em is dissing that person


Hell we could prob find some potential subliminals at 50? or maybe dre?


You remind me of a psychic, or one of those palm readers where they say shit that is so generalized that it can apply to ANYONE... but shes so good that she makes you believe it..... you're like one of them except you suck and i don't believe you

[BrainsGambino]

He's not dissing wayne. in any song. ever. enough.


I can do exactly what you just did, take a verse and turn it into a "subliminal" diss toward anyone you'd like

step 1: pick someone
step 2: ill pick a verse and tell you why em is dissing that person


Hell we could prob find some potential subliminals at 50? or maybe dre?


You remind me of a psychic, or one of those palm readers where they say shit that is so generalized that it can apply to ANYONE... but shes so good that she makes you believe it..... you're like one of them except you suck and i don't believe you

I'm not trying to fool anyone. I'm making myself feel better about the fact that Em is now associating himself with Giggles, the individual who destroyed the genre that Eminem perfected. But, you're not going to find anything that looks like a subliminal at 50 as much as these look like subliminals at Giggles. If he isn't dissing him or creating a contrast, then we're looking at a pretty major coincidence.

[Jaz]

No we aren't.. We're looking at you reaching.

[Mxracer6y]

He's not dissing wayne. in any song. ever. enough.


I can do exactly what you just did, take a verse and turn it into a "subliminal" diss toward anyone you'd like

step 1: pick someone
step 2: ill pick a verse and tell you why em is dissing that person


Hell we could prob find some potential subliminals at 50? or maybe dre?


You remind me of a psychic, or one of those palm readers where they say shit that is so generalized that it can apply to ANYONE... but shes so good that she makes you believe it..... you're like one of them except you suck and i don't believe you

I'm not trying to fool anyone. I'm making myself feel better about the fact that Em is now associating himself with Giggles, the individual who destroyed the genre that Eminem perfected. But, you're not going to find anything that looks like a subliminal at 50 as much as these look like subliminals at Giggles. If he isn't dissing him or creating a contrast, then we're looking at a pretty major coincidence.

but...... these are nothing more than random bars...... directed to anyone.................

[BrainsGambino]

No we aren't.. We're looking at you reaching.

I would be reaching if I used his other lyrics and looks for hidden references to Giggles, but I don't think he's doing that type of stuff. If I posted a bunch of shit where Em says things that reference some Giggles lyric, personal bio, or career event, then I'd be reaching. He's demonstrating a contrast, not beefing.

Yeah the rap is tight
But I'm bout to spit the greatest verse of all time

C'mon.

So you might want to go back to the lab tonight and um
Scribble out them rhymes you were going to spit
And start over from scratch and write new ones
But I'm afraid that it ain't gonna make no difference
When I rip this stage and tear it in half tonight

I mean c'mon. Don't be one of Giggles's blind middleschool drones. You're an Eminem fan. You're above that.