Chaos Theory - We're Tha Shit

[Solace]

Another collaboration project with my best buddy who just started rapping. This is his first ever recorded verse, along with first ever written. He's never practiced. I think he's pretty amazing for his first time lol. But yeah, tell us what you think and drop a comment or a like on the Youtube page. Or both. My verse was rushed, I'll probably re-record it later. But I am satisfied with this for what it is.

EDIT:
Due to some issues, MC Anonymous' role in Chaos Theory will be filled by the other half of this song, his rap name being Frost (though it says Falln in the video). If/when MC Anonymous gets his equipment back, Chaos Theory will release music with all of us in it.

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[Verse 1: Solace]
Devilish, malevolent, the message is I'll never quit,
With lyrical rhetoric I am severin' your head to bits,
I ain't making this up,
I'll use acid as shampoo when I bathe in my blood,
I am not gunna leave now,
Before you get your three rounds of a fuckin' beat down,
This shit is a joke,
Ripping the flow as I'm thinking of me slitting your throat,
I'm sicker than most, it's a bother to prove,
So I'll spit on your mother's face like she's part of the booth,
I'll make your gut so I see through it the whole time,
Tie you up just to beat you with your own spine.
The way I have to chatter,
Take my tracks and scatter and then play it back in backwards,
I taste the havoc shatter,
You look so funny dead it makes me crack with laughter.

[Chorus: Solace]
We're tha shit (Ayee!)
We're tha shit (Dunnoe!)
We're tha shit (Swag!)
We're tha shit (Holla!)
We're tha shit (Based!)
We're tha shit (Wagwan!)
We're tha shit (Styll!)
We're tha shit (Beast!)

[Verse 2: Frost]
My soul is knotted...The devil holds it hostage,
All hope was lost and...I was told to toss it,
Your heart is toxic...I choke from logic,
Tried narcotics, the growth was stoppin', I know I've fallen,
They say your attitude determines your latitude,
If that's the truth I'd rather be a failure than be mad at you,
I spit the truth in solitude, and always cool with Solace dude,
Demolish you, rip all the clues, down this hole you be falling through,
My lyrical contents are a miracle,
Towards the pitiful, I'm usually satirical,
You're stupid, hysterical,
You're terrible, now watch me tear a flow...Here I go,
I grasp hafts to slash ass of wack raps,
Then act black, but fuck that, I will perfect fast,
Go get smacked, and get bashed until your head cracks,
At last, you can get sacked while your neck snaps.

[Chorus: Solace] x3
We're tha shit (Ayee!)
We're tha shit (Dunnoe!)
We're tha shit (Swag!)
We're tha shit (Holla!)
We're tha shit (Based!)
We're tha shit (Wagwan!)
We're tha shit (Styll!)
We're tha shit (Beast!)

[mdemaz]

Nice, a long track.
Beat is sorta...Meh..
Your voice is pretty cool in this track, more energy then usual.
Sadly, this energy handicaps your mic presence and delivery, but it is only by a small factor.
You nailed your flow.
Falln's verse was a bit weird, but I liked his flow at times.
He tends to be rapping too quiet at times and lacked enough syllables to flow properly in short bursts halfway through his verse..
I know syllables aren't everything, but huge differences like that in between bars is a recipe for disaster.
Just a heads up though, nothing too major.
Overall, a pretty cool song, the hook is wicked.
WE'RE THA SHIT HOLLA!
Swagging up in this bitch.

Beast.

[Nefarious]

I was digging your verse, not the chorus to much tho, ive never liked simple repeating choruses,
For your friends first time he did pretty good with the lyrical part more than the delivery, he had alot of pauses which at times sounded bad or excellent, i could just tell he lacked the confidence but thats to be expected, so i still give him 100% props for a very good first time, either the beat or the vocals were kinda loud at first lol, but i got used to it eventually, good job on this, ur tha shit lol.

[Solace]

I've shown my friend both your feedback, he says he'll keep them in mind and hopefully improve guys. Thank you for checking, we appreciate it. I'll hit back both of you some feed on other tracks of yours later. Yeah the chorus was just a joke, all the words said after "We're tha shit" is popular slang used around here "dunnoe" "swag" styll" etc. Hopefully the re-do is much more pleasing. Thanks for checking, again!

[Sam.]

The beat is a little slow IMO if it had a little more tempo then it would have been more enjoyable.It seems like you took a little different direction as far as the Flow is concerned.It's good when you Rap with such Flow's ,taking gaps between bars.The only things that was totally unnecessary was the Echo part after a particular Bar is complete,it's cool if you do it once or at Max twice in your verse but not that many times. For me if I ignore that thing the flow towards the ending bars were a little ehh(Judging from the 1st listen ,I might like it when I listen to it more). Overall a solid verse and your voice sounded real clear and different from what I had imagined.Keep it up.You need to do something with Ad-libs that you put in there maybe you should have them removed if you plan to Re-Record and Mix them all over again.

Your friend on the other hand had a weird structured verse with so many Rhymes that were put together in a single bar.He did sound comfortable but he needs to Rap fast ,it seemed he was just reading the Lyrics.The change in his flow was clearly evident in his verse.I think he didn't memorize his verse very well ,you must be knowing that when you know you own shit well you get the confidence in the flow and delivery automatically. He could have made it better if he hadn't put so many Rhymes in that verse for the fuck of it.

Hope this small Feed helps ,I'm not that good at it .

[Solace]

With all do respect I'm going to argue with some of the points you brought up.

Starting with me, beat tempo is subjective so that's personal taste; rather than a flaw. I found it much more enjoyable rapping on a slow beat for once. But then I guess the re-do will do you good because we're doing it on a much faster paced beat, 85-90bpm. Many people have told me the repeat of the rhyme when there's a gap and then echoing it to fill up the space has been a good technique when I've used it in the past. I mean, my flow was on beat the entire time, so there's not much else to critique other than the gaps so I don't get how my flow became ehh. I don't like the gaps either, but it makes my delivery and breath control much more consistent since I get that couple second break between lines. I only had two adlibs (Motherfucker, and the spit sound) and I feel the spit sound was well place. Idk, I'm considering removing motherfucker 'cause it was pointless. You'd probably agree with that.

Alright now my friend. My friend was on beat for most of the time. "He needs to rap fast". I don't really get how that has to do with the structuring of his verses. That would ruin his flow and place him off beat. Rapping fast also doesn't make it seem like you aren't reading the lyrics. Most of the time I read my lyrics while I record and people say "Hey, I can tell you've memorized it, you know your stuff well" so usually that argument doesn't go well. He was reading off the paper though, so that does explain his monotone delivery. I'll give you that. It was his first time ever, his delivery is good for his experience level and he will only improve. He has more potential than me in fact.

[Ticalrecords]

hahahaha we the shit (swag!) - that shit made me laugh. your friend is pretty good for a first timer - better than i would have done. your verse was good too lyrics were nice and what not. i liked how yall structured teh song at some points to have spaces, it was interesting and a nice change of pace. overall teh vibe was good too. at the end of the day you can tell that yall had alot of fun with the song.


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[Sam.]

With all do respect I'm going to argue with some of the points you brought up.

Starting with me, beat tempo is subjective so that's personal taste; rather than a flaw. I found it much more enjoyable rapping on a slow beat for once. But then I guess the re-do will do you good because we're doing it on a much faster paced beat, 85-90bpm.

One thing I would like to clear that the beat Tempo has nothing to do with me not liking it.I liked it ,what I said was if the Tempo was a few bmp faster then it would have been more enjoyable.I'm mainly talking about the part of the beat where your vocals are placed.It's not flaw bruh ,it's something that would made even better.

Many people have told me the repeat of the rhyme when there's a gap and then echoing it to fill up the space has been a good technique when I've used it in the past. I mean, my flow was on beat the entire time, so there's not much else to critique other than the gaps so I don't get how my flow became ehh. I don't like the gaps either, but it makes my delivery and breath control much more consistent since I get that couple second break between lines.

How do I know who told you what to do when you're using that kind of flow ??.This is not the 1st song and you're not the 1st Rapper to use this type of Flow .I've heard many songs that has a similar Flow (Can't really give a particular name of a song),in those songs there were no repetition in the between the bars ,so I'm used to that ,hence I said that I din't like the use of Echo that many times that you used.You're at the learning stage so it's good that you did that to manage your delivery and breath control, which is good.

I only had two adlibs (Motherfucker, and the spit sound) and I feel the spit sound was well place. Idk, I'm considering removing motherfucker 'cause it was pointless. You'd probably agree with that.

That Spit Ad-lib sounded bad tooo Eminem-ish ,if you get any other like that use it .

Many people have told me the repeat of the rhyme when there's a gap and then echoing it to fill up the space has been a good technique when I've used it in the past. I mean, my flow was on beat the entire time, so there's not much else to critique other than the gaps so I don't get how my flow became ehh. I don't like the gaps either, but it makes my delivery and breath control much more consistent since I get that couple second break between lines.

How do I know who told you what to do when you're using that kind of flow ??.This is not the 1st song and you're not the 1st Rapper to use this type of Flow .I've heard many songs that has a similar Flow (Can't really give a particular name of a song),in those songs there were no repetition in the between the bars ,so I'm used to that ,hence I said that I din't like the use of Echo that many times that you used.You're at the learning stage so it's good that you did that to manage your delivery and breath control, which is good.

Alright now my friend. My friend was on beat for most of the time. "He needs to rap fast". I don't really get how that has to do with the structuring of his verses. That would ruin his flow and place him off beat. Rapping fast also doesn't make it seem like you aren't reading the lyrics. Most of the time I read my lyrics while I record and people say "Hey, I can tell you've memorized it, you know your stuff well" so usually that argument doesn't go well. He was reading off the paper though, so that does explain his monotone delivery. I'll give you that. It was his first time ever, his delivery is good for his experience level and he will only improve. He has more potential than me in fact.

Okay ,shall I say in other words that you don't need learn your verse by heart but at least know it just a little ,I mean you must know what you have actually written in the actual verse.When I heard yyour song I had the Lyrics in front of me and it literally felt that he was just reading it.I think from what I know he recorded it with you so how come I would know the circumstances that his verse was recorded.Looks at your verse it's didn't have that many rhymes as your friend and you managed to Flow through it smoothly ,only towards the end I felt it was a little ehh (I said that from the 1st listen so you can't really blame me for that son).Canibus usually has so many Rhymes squeezed in his verse ,does it sound that he just reading it ? No ,he does flawlessly .I was about to say this point the 1st time around but somehow I forgot. You say this is his 1st time right ? then how come you say that he was flawless in his delivery ? I really didn't like his verse as compared to yours .

[mdemaz]

Wtf?
Shut up and enjoy the music..

[Solace]

hahahaha we the shit (swag!) - that shit made me laugh. your friend is pretty good for a first timer - better than i would have done. your verse was good too lyrics were nice and what not. i liked how yall structured teh song at some points to have spaces, it was interesting and a nice change of pace. overall teh vibe was good too. at the end of the day you can tell that yall had alot of fun with the song.

Thanks bro, I'm glad you felt it. And yes, we had a lot of fun recording it.

One thing I would like to clear that the beat Tempo has nothing to do with me not liking it.I liked it ,what I said was if the Tempo was a few bmp faster then it would have been more enjoyable.I'm mainly talking about the part of the beat where your vocals are placed.It's not flaw bruh ,it's something that would made even better.

Fair enough.

How do I know who told you what to do when you're using that kind of flow ??.This is not the 1st song and you're not the 1st Rapper to use this type of Flow .I've heard many songs that has a similar Flow (Can't really give a particular name of a song),in those songs there were no repetition in the between the bars ,so I'm used to that ,hence I said that I din't like the use of Echo that many times that you used.You're at the learning stage so it's good that you did that to manage your delivery and breath control, which is good.

Idk what you're saying here lol. No one told me to use it, I use it myself. I never said I was the 1st song and that I am the first rapper to have pauses in my verse. I said I use it and people said it sounds good to use the repeat.

That Spit Ad-lib sounded bad tooo Eminem-ish ,if you get any other like that use it .

How am I supposed to spit in a way that doesn't sound Eminem? You realize I just recorded me spitting right? I didn't take an Eminem adlib.

Okay ,shall I say in other words that you don't need learn your verse by heart but at least know it just a little ,I mean you must know what you have actually written in the actual verse.When I heard yyour song I had the Lyrics in front of me and it literally felt that he was just reading it.I think from what I know he recorded it with you so how come I would know the circumstances that his verse was recorded.Looks at your verse it's didn't have that many rhymes as your friend and you managed to Flow through it smoothly ,only towards the end I felt it was a little ehh (I said that from the 1st listen so you can't really blame me for that son).Canibus usually has so many Rhymes squeezed in his verse ,does it sound that he just reading it ? No ,he does flawlessly .I was about to say this point the 1st time around but somehow I forgot. You say this is his 1st time right ? then how come say that he was flawless in his delivery ? I really didn't like his verse as compared to yours .

I believe I had the same amount of rhymes and more complex rhyme schemes in fact than my friend, but I ended up pulling it off better than he did. Of course Canibus can't sound like he's reading it, he's always sounded like he has a cock in his mouth and trying to scream it away. I never said my friend was flawless in his delivery. I said it was great for his first time. Never did I say flawless.

Wtf?
Shut up and enjoy the music..

Naw we just having a friendly debate-ish sorta thing. It's cool.

[mdemaz]

I know lol...
It's just funny seeing this shit here and not in the Eminem section or HHD..

[Sam.]

How do I know who told you what to do when you're using that kind of flow ??.This is not the 1st song and you're not the 1st Rapper to use this type of Flow .I've heard many songs that has a similar Flow (Can't really give a particular name of a song),in those songs there were no repetition in the between the bars ,so I'm used to that ,hence I said that I din't like the use of Echo that many times that you used.You're at the learning stage so it's good that you did that to manage your delivery and breath control, which is good.

Idk what you're saying here lol. No one told me to use it, I use it myself. I never said I was the 1st song and that I am the first rapper to have pauses in my verse. I said I use it and people said it sounds good to use the repeat.

I'll rephrase what I said bruh.From the Rap songs that I have heard using the Flow that you have used ,didn't have repetition at all let aside the use of Echo.

That Spit Ad-lib sounded bad tooo Eminem-ish ,if you get any other like that use it .

How am I supposed to spit in a way that doesn't sound Eminem? You realize I just recorded me spitting right? I didn't take an Eminem adlib.

I didn't know that ,lmoa.Take my advice brah ,remove it for god's sake.

Okay ,shall I say in other words that you don't need learn your verse by heart but at least know it just a little ,I mean you must know what you have actually written in the actual verse.When I heard yyour song I had the Lyrics in front of me and it literally felt that he was just reading it.I think from what I know he recorded it with you so how come I would know the circumstances that his verse was recorded.Looks at your verse it's didn't have that many rhymes as your friend and you managed to Flow through it smoothly ,only towards the end I felt it was a little ehh (I said that from the 1st listen so you can't really blame me for that son).Canibus usually has so many Rhymes squeezed in his verse ,does it sound that he just reading it ? No ,he does flawlessly .I was about to say this point the 1st time around but somehow I forgot. You say this is his 1st time right ? then how come say that he was flawless in his delivery ? I really didn't like his verse as compared to yours .

I believe I had the same amount of rhymes and more complex rhyme schemes in fact than my friend, but I ended up pulling it off better than he did. Of course Canibus can't sound like he's reading it, he's always sounded like he has a cock in his mouth and trying to scream it away. I never said my friend was flawless in his delivery. I said it was great for his first time. Never did I say flawless.

Not from what I could make out. Your verse was complex indeed but didn't have so many rhymes studded in one Bar or should I say same sounding Rhymes.

[Verse 1: Solace]
Devilish, malevolent, the message is I'll never quit,
With lyrical rhetoric I am severin' your head to bits,
I ain't making this up,
I'll use acid as shampoo when I bathe in my blood,
v/s
[Verse 2: Falln]

My lyrical contents are a miracle,
Towards the pitiful, I'm usually satirical,
You're stupid, hysterical,
You're terrible, now watch me tear a flow...Here I go,

See.

Wtf?
Shut up and enjoy the music..

It's all good brah ! Solace and me are discussing things peacefully.

[Solace]

I'll rephrase what I said bruh.From the Rap songs that I have heard using the Flow that you have used ,didn't have repetition at all let aside the use of Echo.

So why should it matter that I don't sound like other rappers? That's a good thing.

I didn't know that ,lmoa.Take my advice brah ,remove it for god's sake.

Uh, no. It sounds good. It fits with what I was saying. No one other than you found something odd about it. Others have used a spit adlib in their verses throughout the many years I'm sure.

Not from what I could make out. Your verse was complex indeed but didn't have so many rhymes studded in one Bar or should I say same sounding Rhymes.

Since when did putting a lot of rhymes in one bar make you complex? The quads you pointed out bar evenly too. And that was just my starter rhyme to head me into the verse when I for example later do a 6 syllable multiple with an internal on the top.

My lyrical contents are a miracle,
Towards the pitiful, I'm usually satirical,
You're stupid, hysterical,
You're terrible, now watch me tear a flow...Here I go,

Devilish, malevolent, the message is I'll never quit,
With lyrical rhetoric I am severin' your head to bits,
I ain't making this up,
I'll use acid as shampoo when I bathe in my blood,

BUT this isn't about comparing us, so let's keep that aside. I enjoy his written, and he enjoys mine. That's that.

[Sam.]

I'll rephrase what I said bruh.From the Rap songs that I have heard using the Flow that you have used ,didn't have repetition at all let aside the use of Echo.

So why should it matter that I don't sound like other rappers? That's a good thing.

This was something that was new to me so I said that.It's good that you want to make a unique identity of yourself.

I didn't know that ,lmoa.Take my advice brah ,remove it for god's sake.

Uh, no. It sounds good. It fits with what I was saying. No one other than you found something odd about it. Others have used a spit adlib in their verses throughout the many years I'm sure.

It's your shit doe ,my motive was to advice you bro.It's up to you to take it or leave it.

Not from what I could make out. Your verse was complex indeed but didn't have so many rhymes studded in one Bar or should I say same sounding Rhymes.

Since when did putting a lot of rhymes in one bar make you complex? The quads you pointed out bar evenly too. And that was just my starter rhyme to head me into the verse when I for example later do a 6 syllable multiple with an internal on the top.

My lyrical contents are a miracle,
Towards the pitiful, I'm usually satirical,
You're stupid, hysterical,
You're terrible, now watch me tear a flow...Here I go,

Devilish, malevolent, the message is I'll never quit,
With lyrical rhetoric I am severin' your head to bits,
I ain't making this up,
I'll use acid as shampoo when I bathe in my blood,

BUT this isn't about comparing us, so let's keep that aside. I enjoy his written, and he enjoys mine. That's that.

For this chk your Inbox.

Solace.

[DƎRDYPK]

your verse did sound sorta rushed when I heard it, still pretty cool though.
your homie did an iight job too, he paused alot but it's whatever
I wanna hear some moarrr
(fuck my feedback)