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F**k anger management

Postby Ethos » Jan 2nd, '11, 19:36

I always wondered why D12 got pissed at Royce. Well then years ago, I realized it was cuz Royce said a line in a song meant for the anger management tour mixtape. "fuck anger management, I need to manage my anger" or something like that. Well D12 heard that and went to em saying "hey your boy is dissing the tour" so em cut off all contact and then the beef started which then ended eventually thanks to proof (RIP).

Now I've listened to the Shade 45 anger management 3 mixtape many times and always wondered why in a song on that it has a line that is similar to Royce and yet d12 didn't go after the dude. I believe it's either Talib Kweli- manage you anger or Kardinall Offishall- when I'm angry. What y'all think?
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Re: F**k anger management

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Jan 2nd, '11, 21:25

I think it was more then just that line :coffee:
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Re: F**k anger management

Postby Unscarred » Jan 2nd, '11, 21:39

TheGentlePlayer wrote:I think it was more then just that line :coffee:

Royce explaining the whole situation

I don't typically release statements, but I have heard about all of the shit Proof has been talking on his website and I felt I needed to respond. First, I did not start of all this bullshit (diss tracks). I've said shit about them out of anger and vice versa. If Eminem and I are supposed to be cool, then there's nothing we can't talk about and squash. This whole beef started when I gave Eminem a freestyle for the "Anger Management" Mixtape. At the beginning of my rhyme I said "Fuck Anger Management, I need to hire somebody to manage my anger." For some strange reason, Eminem and D-12 took that as a diss. Why? Why would I diss Eminem the illest lyricist on the fucking planet? I heard that Em was upset, so I started putting in phone calls too his camp too set the record straight and too let them know I would never do something like that. Paul (Em's manager) told me that "Em is not talking to you period." Its crazy how we are supposed to be cool, but they accuse me of something and do not even attempt to get to the bottom of it. But I turned my back on him right?

I was heartbroken and mad at the same time because I felt like D-12 was in his ear, because this just did not seem like the Em that I know, or at least thought I knew, because from day one I was there for that motherfucker. I remember Em and Proof was beefed out and Em was not even talking to D-12, I was the only nigga he had. I was the one who told Em he should put those nigga's (D-12) on. Em got back in touch with them as soon as they came back around and all they did was ask who I was and why was Em helping me, so the envy was there from the jump! Bizarre 2-wayed me after that "Anger Management" shit talking about what's up my nigga? I felt like he was trying too fuck with me by doing that, because if there are some harsh feelings in the air why are you hitting me up? So, I told Bizarre to stop calling me cause his shit is fake. In so many words, we ended up exchanging words via 2-Way and he went and showed the whole crew (trying to instigate shit as usual). The next day, I did an online interview and when the writer asked me "who did I think was ruining rap, who was wack and who would I like to start a beef with" I said D-12, which I can admit was wrong on my part. The only reason I said this, was because at that time, I was heated from the shit Bizarre did! I did not mean to start a beef with them and I did not know the writer was going to record the interview and post it online. So, I understand why they would be upset. However, my manager talked to Proof after this happened and Proof said D-12 did not care and that he (Proof) ain't really fucking with Em like that because Em was all on 50 Cent's dick. Proof also told me that he did not think there would even be another D-12 LP (but you guys are family huh?). After speaking with my manager, Proof said everything was cool! Further, Denaun hit me and said he thought everything was stupid because everything was subliminal, we both agreed and said it was respect as long as we kept communicating and his name was left out of it. Next thing you know, D-12 are at 50's release party passing out CD's dissing me, Ja-Rule and Benzino? So, if you wanna know why I bigged up Murder Inc. and Benzino that's why! And these were not just disses, but motherfucking death threats!!

The disses I made ("Malcom X" & "What We Do" ) were in direct response to this! They added that Internet clip of me on one of their disses (the same one they supposedly did not care about) and made it look like I started all of this and that I was doing it to sell records, or because Em did not sign me. In reality, D-12 did this to get Em's attention because it's all 50 Cent right now! So, the reason I put 50 in my diss, is not because I'm on his dick---if it wasn't for him, ya'll bitches wouldn't be trying to use me to regain his attention from Em! To add insult to injury, these hoe ass niggas world premiered there diss on the radio the very next day! So, who's really looking for attention? I went up to the radio-station the next day and played a Bizarre diss I wrote three-years ago. I wrote that record because I thought Bizarre dissed me on some local Mixtape around the time they were really mad at me. They had diss raps for Em because of me! I did the Bizarre diss and called Proof to the studio, because he was my nigga and I'm a real nigga. I told Proof, I know he's in your camp, but he dissed me and I gotta spank him! Proof came up to the studio, heard the record (the whole record, including the line about Bugz), laughed and said it was crazy and told me he loved me for being real and calling him! Proof told me he wanted me and Em to talk, so he got us on the phone and we squashed everything! Ya'll niggas are the first ones to say ya'll got families and you just want to rap and get money and now your starting this shit like I'm not supposed to defend myself, fuck ya'll! I'm a man of my word, so when I agreed everything was squashed nobody heard that diss until now---three-years later. In regard to the Bugz line that everyone was supposed to be all upset about, it was just meant for Bizarre, it was not written to play on the radio and we was rushing to the station that day to play it and we edited the shit real fast and that line got missed. But to show how real I am, I felt bad that it got played and I called Proof to apologize and was even willing to go on the air to apologize.

After all of this, I got a voice mail from Proof and he's on there cocking his gun talking about what he is going to do too me. We can write records about each other all day, but when it comes to the streets, who wants to die over some hip-hop shit? Proof's stupid ass is making all kind of threats saying that street nigga's is on my head and he hopes I make it out alive. Proof, if I don't make it out alive do you think you will? Do you think Em and the rest of D-12 will survive? The beef will not stop after me, cause I got niggas who will never stop until ya'll gone---and that's not a threat! If I go, niggas grandma's, mothers and everyone is going! You think about that while you're talking on these websites hyping yourself up and calling me a lil soft suburban boy. Proof, you know that's Bizarre your talking about!! Nigga's thought he was gay in High School, he's in your crew and you saw me tear a whole club up damn near by myself and you was on my dick talking about how good my knuckle game was and now I'm the bitch who is getting his ass whopped all the time? How about this, fuck you and Tre meeting, I will meet you alone and tear your ass up in front of no one with nothing to prove! You would never do that, because you think you can say whatever you wanna say and hide behind thirty niggas. I ain't with that bar brawl shit, that's for chumps like you and the people you roll with! When we got beef we end it, fuck fighting.

Proof, me and you done took our son's to Chucky Cheese together so there's always a place in my heart that does not want anything serious to happen to you, but I don't think the feelings mutual. Answer me this, who's gone to take care of your lil man when something happens to you, because something happened to me? Who's going to explain to your family why your Grandma's house keeps getting shot up because of what happened to me? This shit is not funny dawg, ya'll couldn't fuck with me on the mic, but now ya'll frustrated and feel like you need to take it to the streets and leave it in the hands of your street reps. It does not work like that dawg; the beef don't stop until every main name is gone! Look at what happened to Pac and B.I.G.! I take this shit serious, them street niggas you got, I ain't done nothing to them and my gangsta niggas laugh at ya'll, so anybody riding that serious for any of you niggas is stupid, because if they do some dumb shit just to impress Eminem don't even know him. Eminem won't be at your funeral so smarten up. That's the problem, money got ya'll believing ya'll own hype, but when somebody is after you and they want you bad enough your ass is outta here, especially if its because something happened to someone they love over what basically amounts to nothing.

Ya'll nigga's need to stick to rapping and worry about the respect ya'll ain't getting in the industry. I did not tell you to make jackasses out of yourselves, that was your idea, all I can say is its wack or its dope; that's nothing to kill each other over. So calm your so-called street niggas down, because its not going to go like you think (trust me on this one) they don't know the half! Get as deep as you want, I got the invisible street team and they ain't fucking around with ya'll, cause your all too deep in the hype. So, whoever thinks I started this, I hope this sets the record straight. What the fuck do I stand to gain by dissing the biggest rapper in the country? How could that help me? And for the record, I do think Em is a better rapper then me, but he ain't writing no record about me, because regardless of what goes down, trust me, Em knows what I am capable of lyrically. Ya'll niggas is clowns and the real will make itself visible! I ain't speaking on D-12 no more, because I already made it painfully obvious that I can single-handedly crush their whole crew. The only reason Tre was on the record was because you mentioned his name. You don't see D-Elite writing records about ya'll, because nobody takes you serious. If we was trying to do this for attention, wouldn't we try to get the most out of it? Don't talk my head off, if this shit is that serious, then why is Swifty at the studio by himself with no protection?

Eminem, if niggas start dropping are you going to be able to weigh that on your conscience? You have the power to squash this, smarten up and quit letting outside niggas with no name and nothing to lose hype it up? In the long run Em, your going to lose out more then anybody!
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Re: F**k anger management

Postby NicoleEM » Jan 2nd, '11, 23:03

Well basicly it did started from that line.Just a silly beef really that got out of proportion.About that letter that Royce sent,it seems that the beef was more between Royce,Bizzare and Proof.Em really kept a pretty low profile about this one.Royce was right about one thing tho..this could have been squashed a long time a go.Guess it's better later then never :happy:
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Re: F**k anger management

Postby Rash J » Jan 3rd, '11, 16:49

Unscarred wrote:
TheGentlePlayer wrote:I think it was more then just that line :coffee:

Royce explaining the whole situation

I don't typically release statements, but I have heard about all of the shit Proof has been talking on his website and I felt I needed to respond. First, I did not start of all this bullshit (diss tracks). I've said shit about them out of anger and vice versa. If Eminem and I are supposed to be cool, then there's nothing we can't talk about and squash. This whole beef started when I gave Eminem a freestyle for the "Anger Management" Mixtape. At the beginning of my rhyme I said "Fuck Anger Management, I need to hire somebody to manage my anger." For some strange reason, Eminem and D-12 took that as a diss. Why? Why would I diss Eminem the illest lyricist on the fucking planet? I heard that Em was upset, so I started putting in phone calls too his camp too set the record straight and too let them know I would never do something like that. Paul (Em's manager) told me that "Em is not talking to you period." Its crazy how we are supposed to be cool, but they accuse me of something and do not even attempt to get to the bottom of it. But I turned my back on him right?

I was heartbroken and mad at the same time because I felt like D-12 was in his ear, because this just did not seem like the Em that I know, or at least thought I knew, because from day one I was there for that motherfucker. I remember Em and Proof was beefed out and Em was not even talking to D-12, I was the only ***** he had. I was the one who told Em he should put those *****'s (D-12) on. Em got back in touch with them as soon as they came back around and all they did was ask who I was and why was Em helping me, so the envy was there from the jump! Bizarre 2-wayed me after that "Anger Management" shit talking about what's up my *****? I felt like he was trying too fuck with me by doing that, because if there are some harsh feelings in the air why are you hitting me up? So, I told Bizarre to stop calling me cause his shit is fake. In so many words, we ended up exchanging words via 2-Way and he went and showed the whole crew (trying to instigate shit as usual). The next day, I did an online interview and when the writer asked me "who did I think was ruining rap, who was wack and who would I like to start a beef with" I said D-12, which I can admit was wrong on my part. The only reason I said this, was because at that time, I was heated from the shit Bizarre did! I did not mean to start a beef with them and I did not know the writer was going to record the interview and post it online. So, I understand why they would be upset. However, my manager talked to Proof after this happened and Proof said D-12 did not care and that he (Proof) ain't really fucking with Em like that because Em was all on 50 Cent's dick. Proof also told me that he did not think there would even be another D-12 LP (but you guys are family huh?). After speaking with my manager, Proof said everything was cool! Further, Denaun hit me and said he thought everything was stupid because everything was subliminal, we both agreed and said it was respect as long as we kept communicating and his name was left out of it. Next thing you know, D-12 are at 50's release party passing out CD's dissing me, Ja-Rule and Benzino? So, if you wanna know why I bigged up Murder Inc. and Benzino that's why! And these were not just disses, but motherfucking death threats!!

The disses I made ("Malcom X" & "What We Do" ) were in direct response to this! They added that Internet clip of me on one of their disses (the same one they supposedly did not care about) and made it look like I started all of this and that I was doing it to sell records, or because Em did not sign me. In reality, D-12 did this to get Em's attention because it's all 50 Cent right now! So, the reason I put 50 in my diss, is not because I'm on his dick---if it wasn't for him, ya'll bitches wouldn't be trying to use me to regain his attention from Em! To add insult to injury, these hoe ass ***** world premiered there diss on the radio the very next day! So, who's really looking for attention? I went up to the radio-station the next day and played a Bizarre diss I wrote three-years ago. I wrote that record because I thought Bizarre dissed me on some local Mixtape around the time they were really mad at me. They had diss raps for Em because of me! I did the Bizarre diss and called Proof to the studio, because he was my ***** and I'm a real *****. I told Proof, I know he's in your camp, but he dissed me and I gotta spank him! Proof came up to the studio, heard the record (the whole record, including the line about Bugz), laughed and said it was crazy and told me he loved me for being real and calling him! Proof told me he wanted me and Em to talk, so he got us on the phone and we squashed everything! Ya'll ***** are the first ones to say ya'll got families and you just want to rap and get money and now your starting this shit like I'm not supposed to defend myself, fuck ya'll! I'm a man of my word, so when I agreed everything was squashed nobody heard that diss until now---three-years later. In regard to the Bugz line that everyone was supposed to be all upset about, it was just meant for Bizarre, it was not written to play on the radio and we was rushing to the station that day to play it and we edited the shit real fast and that line got missed. But to show how real I am, I felt bad that it got played and I called Proof to apologize and was even willing to go on the air to apologize.

After all of this, I got a voice mail from Proof and he's on there cocking his gun talking about what he is going to do too me. We can write records about each other all day, but when it comes to the streets, who wants to die over some hip-hop shit? Proof's stupid ass is making all kind of threats saying that street *****'s is on my head and he hopes I make it out alive. Proof, if I don't make it out alive do you think you will? Do you think Em and the rest of D-12 will survive? The beef will not stop after me, cause I got ***** who will never stop until ya'll gone---and that's not a threat! If I go, ***** grandma's, mothers and everyone is going! You think about that while you're talking on these websites hyping yourself up and calling me a lil soft suburban boy. Proof, you know that's Bizarre your talking about!! *****'s thought he was gay in High School, he's in your crew and you saw me tear a whole club up damn near by myself and you was on my dick talking about how good my knuckle game was and now I'm the bitch who is getting his ass whopped all the time? How about this, fuck you and Tre meeting, I will meet you alone and tear your ass up in front of no one with nothing to prove! You would never do that, because you think you can say whatever you wanna say and hide behind thirty *****. I ain't with that bar brawl shit, that's for chumps like you and the people you roll with! When we got beef we end it, fuck fighting.

Proof, me and you done took our son's to Chucky Cheese together so there's always a place in my heart that does not want anything serious to happen to you, but I don't think the feelings mutual. Answer me this, who's gone to take care of your lil man when something happens to you, because something happened to me? Who's going to explain to your family why your Grandma's house keeps getting shot up because of what happened to me? This shit is not funny dawg, ya'll couldn't fuck with me on the mic, but now ya'll frustrated and feel like you need to take it to the streets and leave it in the hands of your street reps. It does not work like that dawg; the beef don't stop until every main name is gone! Look at what happened to Pac and B.I.G.! I take this shit serious, them street ***** you got, I ain't done nothing to them and my gangsta ***** laugh at ya'll, so anybody riding that serious for any of you ***** is stupid, because if they do some dumb shit just to impress Eminem don't even know him. Eminem won't be at your funeral so smarten up. That's the problem, money got ya'll believing ya'll own hype, but when somebody is after you and they want you bad enough your ass is outta here, especially if its because something happened to someone they love over what basically amounts to nothing.

Ya'll *****'s need to stick to rapping and worry about the respect ya'll ain't getting in the industry. I did not tell you to make jackasses out of yourselves, that was your idea, all I can say is its wack or its dope; that's nothing to kill each other over. So calm your so-called street ***** down, because its not going to go like you think (trust me on this one) they don't know the half! Get as deep as you want, I got the invisible street team and they ain't fucking around with ya'll, cause your all too deep in the hype. So, whoever thinks I started this, I hope this sets the record straight. What the fuck do I stand to gain by dissing the biggest rapper in the country? How could that help me? And for the record, I do think Em is a better rapper then me, but he ain't writing no record about me, because regardless of what goes down, trust me, Em knows what I am capable of lyrically. Ya'll ***** is clowns and the real will make itself visible! I ain't speaking on D-12 no more, because I already made it painfully obvious that I can single-handedly crush their whole crew. The only reason Tre was on the record was because you mentioned his name. You don't see D-Elite writing records about ya'll, because nobody takes you serious. If we was trying to do this for attention, wouldn't we try to get the most out of it? Don't talk my head off, if this shit is that serious, then why is Swifty at the studio by himself with no protection?

Eminem, if ***** start dropping are you going to be able to weigh that on your conscience? You have the power to squash this, smarten up and quit letting outside ***** with no name and nothing to lose hype it up? In the long run Em, your going to lose out more then anybody!

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Re: F**k anger management

Postby Unscarred » Jan 3rd, '11, 16:58

Cool story bruh
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Re: F**k anger management

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Jan 3rd, '11, 17:03

They are friends now, so i'm happy.

But I liked the Anger management line from Royce :shifty:
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Re: F**k anger management

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jan 3rd, '11, 21:57

Royce is a real nikka!

and LOL @ proof,he was known for being messy and fast acting,he was a real gangsta,R.I.P
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Re: F**k anger management

Postby Trimss » Jan 4th, '11, 19:58

Proof, you know that's Bizarre your talking about!! *****'s thought he was gay in High School,



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Re: F**k anger management

Postby Satire » Jan 5th, '11, 14:32

Royce wrote: Proof, you know that's Bizarre your talking about!! *****'s thought he was gay in High School


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Re: F**k anger management

Postby Ethos » Jan 8th, '11, 00:12

Well I already knew the story. My question wasn't about that haha but more like why react to Royce but not the others? Of course I'm sure some people didn't know the story anyhow. :sweating:
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Re: F**k anger management

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