Eminem Vs Kuniva Battle - Questions

[MikeNUFC]

Okay, I was watching the Eminem Kuniva battle on YouTube the other day. I'm sure you've all seen it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQpa-7iFytA for those who havent.

Anyway, I'm assuming it was around 1994/1995? Can anyone confirm this?

Also, Em says "Its worse than David Starr tryna battle Proof, Eye-Kyu, B-Fat (sp?) & Bizarre". Excuse my ignorance but whos B-Fat? With the other names, I assume he's a member of D12 at the time. So I'm thinking either Bugz or Fuzz Scoota's nickname?

Also, when abouts did Kuniva and Kon Artis (Da Brigade) join D12. I'm guessing it was around after Fuzz and Eye-Kyu left. 1996?

Any help is appreciated.

[embm]

look up d12 history on utube

it says 94 95

then the order was
proof startd the idea
he brought kon
kon brought kuniva
kuniva brought biz
biz brought bugz
bugz brought swift
Em then joined 2

1 proof
2 kon
3 kuniva
4 biz
5 bugs
6 swift
7 EM

[RichardDiNozzo]

look up d12 history on utube

it says 94 95

then the order was
proof startd the idea
he brought kon
kon brought kuniva
kuniva brought biz
biz brought bugz
bugz brought swift
Em then joined 2

1 proof
2 kon
3 kuniva
4 biz
5 bugs
6 swift
7 EM

there's the right on "Early Career"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D12

[Chris_1977]

Excuse my ignorance but whos B-Fat?

B-Flat

[dR3]

look up d12 history on utube

it says 94 95

then the order was
proof startd the idea
he brought kon
kon brought kuniva
kuniva brought biz
biz brought bugz
bugz brought swift
Em then joined 2

1 proof
2 kon
3 kuniva
4 biz
5 bugs
6 swift
7 EM

Wow, props

[MikeNUFC]

look up d12 history on utube

it says 94 95

then the order was
proof startd the idea
he brought kon
kon brought kuniva
kuniva brought biz
biz brought bugz
bugz brought swift
Em then joined 2

1 proof
2 kon
3 kuniva
4 biz
5 bugs
6 swift
7 EM

Cheers for that, BUT, from what I've gathered through various sources (including the D12 Histroy one) was that Proof started it and wanted 12 members. The original members were Proof, Bizarre, Em and Eye-Kyu and (I've just researched this) Fuzz Scoota, Killa Hawk, B-Flat, and Dirrty Ratt were just affialites, not official members.

The group split up and went through a period of inactivity from 1997 in which all the members went of to do their own things as the project didn't look like it was going anywhere. Fuzz in particular didn't get along with Proof.

Then in 1998, Proof decided to re-start the project. Em was now busy on the SSLP so he wouldnt be a regular member - just appear on ood tracks (like on the Underground EP). Eye-Kyu didn't want to continue, so Proof gotDa Brigade (Kon and Kuniva) to join and then Kuniva introduced Bugz to Proof who joined too. Bugz asked the group if Swifty could join, bringing the total back up to 6.

Bugz then got shot and killed, leaving the group with only 5 members. Em then re-joined to make it 6 again.

So, now I know when Da Brigade joined, who B-Flat is and when that video was made. Can be locked now.

Cheers Chris for the spelling of B-Flat - a quick google found out who he was.

[moose35]

look up d12 history on utube

it says 94 95

then the order was
proof startd the idea
he brought kon
kon brought kuniva
kuniva brought biz
biz brought bugz
bugz brought swift
Em then joined 2

1 proof
2 kon
3 kuniva
4 biz
5 bugs
6 swift
7 EM

Oooh, I thought Kuniva and Kon Artis were together. Weren't they like a rap duo?

Btw, that battle is sick. But Em said that "My face is pale, but you look like you've seen a ghost line" was written Still sick though.

[MikeNUFC]

Oooh, I thought Kuniva and Kon Artis were together. Weren't they like a rap duo?

Yeah they were; "Da Brigade" they were called. See my previous post.

[SajN]

Embm, sorry, but you're wrong.

Proof had the idea, he then took Em to Kon Artis and Bizzare, and that's when the stuff started to develop.
Swifty wanted to join after Bugz asked, but the group was full. After Bugz' death, they granted his wish and brought in Swifty.

Eminem was still a part if D12 when he was with Dre, but they did their own stuff because he was busy. He then later brought them with him to the label.

[MikeNUFC]

Embm, sorry, but you're wrong.

Proof had the idea, he then took Em to Kon Artis and Bizzare, and that's when the stuff started to develop.
Swifty wanted to join after Bugz asked, but the group was full. After Bugz' death, they granted his wish and brought in Swifty.

Eminem was still a part if D12 when he was with Dre, but they did their own stuff because he was busy. He then later brought them with him to the label.

This is actaully wrong as well. This, I can almost guarentee is right:

Cheers for that, BUT, from what I've gathered through various sources (including the D12 Histroy one) was that Proof started it and wanted 12 members. The original members were Proof, Bizarre, Em and Eye-Kyu and (I've just researched this) Fuzz Scoota, Killa Hawk, B-Flat, and Dirrty Ratt were just affialites, not official members.

The group split up and went through a period of inactivity from 1997 in which all the members went of to do their own things as the project didn't look like it was going anywhere. Fuzz in particular didn't get along with Proof.

Then in 1998, Proof decided to re-start the project. Em was now busy on the SSLP so he wouldnt be a regular member - just appear on ood tracks (like on the Underground EP). Eye-Kyu didn't want to continue, so Proof gotDa Brigade (Kon and Kuniva) to join and then Kuniva introduced Bugz to Proof who joined too. Bugz asked the group if Swifty could join, bringing the total back up to 6.

Bugz then got shot and killed, leaving the group with only 5 members. Em then re-joined to make it 6 again.

So, now I know when Da Brigade joined, who B-Flat is and when that video was made. Can be locked now.

Cheers Chris for the spelling of B-Flat - a quick google found out who he was.

[SajN]

I just told the shorter version.

Eminem - The Way I Am (Book), page 22-23 and 31.

Another book I have right in front of me right now says this too.

[MikeNUFC]

I just told the shorter version.

Eminem - The Way I Am (Book), page 22-23 and 31.

Another book I have right in front of me right now says this too.

Well, from various interviews with Proof and D12, the version I posted was the one that seemed truest. Em wasn't with D12 when he got signed, he said he'd just feature occasionally like on The Underground EP. Swifty was in the group with Bugz. When Bugz died Em stepped back in.

[SajN]

It's not what it says in this biography by Eminem and a guy named Nick Hasted.



But I don't really care.

[MikeNUFC]

It's not what it says in this biography by Eminem and a guy named Nick Hasted.



But I don't really care.

I have that Nick Hasted book. The Dark Story Of Eminem? Great read, but Eminem has nothing to do with it.

Yes you do.

[SajN]

It just says biography.


I just remembered one thing. Eminem and the rest had this pact, whoever within D12 got signed first would come back and get the rest of the group, which is what Eminem did.