_Hawk_ wrote:BlueberryWun wrote:EminemBase wrote:I hope Em doesn't just come with another 'mememe' album as it'll seem underwhelming and self-centered compared to what Ye is doing right now.
What does that mean?
It's meaningless dribble.
EmBase is attempting to highlight the way in which Kanye is re-branding his take on rap, by remaining well respected whilst making tracks like Mercy and To the World, however he is desisting his argument with the incoherent and largely incredible assertion that Kanye is not self-centred. I think EmBase is arguing that Eminem needs to take his music in new directions, like Kanye did with MBDTF, however arguing that he becomes 'less self-centred' endorses an idea that his music should not be about him. Arguably it should be. People here love Relapse, and that is Em being self-centred and putting out a CD of rhymes that he completely indulged.
Listen to the tracks Kanye has performed off of 'Yeezus'. They are awful. I would love to see Eminem make his album sound monumental and consistent, however I do NOT want him to follow Kanye and completely discredit his position in the rap game.
Relapse isn't really self-centered though.
Obviously he will play whatever character or persona the material calls for and refer to himself; but Eminem doesn't really kill people, eat babies and doesn't have the world in a medicine ball... Relapse is completely abstract. He's not a serial-killer or a rapist; he makes references to his real life but the backdrop and the concepts are fictional and theatrical.
I have no problem with references or using his life as a basis, he did this in all his early work, but I think he should create stories and concepts, as this is when he's most compelling or creative; "Stan" would be an example of that, "Criminal" would be another...
What I dislike is pure documentation aka just a literal document of what he went through and how he felt... yes he can still make it interesting and make good music, but it's not very creative and the way people yearn for it so much annoys me, as he's done it so much and can do it so easily.
So, no, Relapse isn't self-centered. It's creative, it's disconnected from reality.
