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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby Blu » Feb 4th, '13, 08:36

Amadeo that's just...incredible. What the fuck...
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby CanadaPure » Feb 4th, '13, 10:29

Amadeo wrote:What is incredible?


I'm going to make the assumption that Blu is high as fuck right now. :laughing:
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby EminemBase » Feb 4th, '13, 10:33

Because school isn't a real measure of intelligence.

Educational systems are the product of an industrialized society that needs to teach people a bite-sized 'linear version' of subjects. They discourage true questioning and true learning and instead offer you subjects seen through a pin hole perspective; they teach you English as 'this story' that goes from A to B to C, self-taught people often have a much truer inclination for learning.
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby CrashBand » Feb 4th, '13, 11:11

Geno wrote:"I always was good at English" lol

Lol, that's so ironic.

I think he's done the same thing intentionally on Like Toy Soldiers. (or maybe unintentionally).
I can't think of a perfecter way to word it
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby Whitefox » Feb 4th, '13, 12:24

"Most hottest", "If Im Not the baddest"
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby EminemBase » Feb 4th, '13, 13:16

Amadeo wrote:
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Geno wrote:"I always was good at English" lol

Lol, that's so ironic.

I think he's done the same thing intentionally on Like Toy Soldiers. (or maybe unintentionally).
I can't think of a perfecter way to word it

LOL.

My problem with that line is not just the fact that the word doesn't exist, but something can't be more perfect than something else. Something is either perfect or it isn't.

He has the same problem in Business. "Most rawest."

I find it very hard to believe Eminem doesn't know that perfecter isn't a word, though.

These are songs where he only cares about how closely he's mimicking the beat/drums (at the expense of intelligibility and grammar) because he started to believe that was what good flow was.


I think that's an extremely obvious example of him intentionally messing with a word though, as the examples you gave such as 'spun'd'. I think it's the fact 'perfecter' ironically isn't perfect - he's emphasized it by mispeaking, he always does things like this.
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby Hopsinshadie » Feb 4th, '13, 16:36

The reason why Eminem says words in a certain way is to create a multiple rhyming effect. Sometimes it's very hard to do and you have to go with whatever piece fits the puzzle the best. Rap was never supposed to be about using perfect grammar. Eminem even studied the dictionary. He uses words such as ''truculent'' in HTS.
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby Suzanne.s » Feb 4th, '13, 18:56

^ true, rappers often say "you was"
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby Sam. » Feb 4th, '13, 19:34

Fuck y'll English Nazis!
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby Blu » Feb 5th, '13, 01:33

Amadeo wrote:What is incredible?

I'll admit I was somewhat high last night but the way you analyzed Eminem's lyrics so precisely to the point where you can point out when he's using incorrect grammar amazes me. I never even noticed "spun'd" around.

If I ever need an English essay that I need typed up I'll be sure to call you.

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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby Willy » Feb 5th, '13, 02:09

"Whatever happened to catchin a good-ol' fashioned
passionate ass-whoopin and gettin your shoes coat and your hat tooken?"

Example of Em intentionally using incorrect grammar and pulling off one of my favorite lines on the song.

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good old / shoes coat
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby Blu » Feb 5th, '13, 04:37

Yep, noticed that one when I first heard it. ^
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby Willy » Feb 5th, '13, 05:07

For the record, I wasn't trying to downplay Amadeo's intelligence or imply anything about yours - was just skimming the thread and thought of that example.
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Re: Eminem is smart.

Postby EminemInsider » Feb 6th, '13, 05:49

Eminem obviously knows correct grammar, as do most people who talk in Ebonics. It's just not "cool" in the urban subculture to sound like a "nerd," so they talk like that to fit in. All you have to do is listen to his interview on Howard Stern where Stern calls him on "I had went," and Eminem immediately goes, "what is it,'I had GONE?'"

This is a guy who plays around with words all day, every day. He'll even put multis in his dying words.

And when you write song lyrics, grammar goes out the window, much as it does in poetry.
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