Neo Hears of a Potential MMLP2 Feature...

[SliK]

Drake has some incredible verses. Things don't have to be super complex or have a million different meanings. It's about articulating a certain emotion - that's what people like Drake and Kanye excel at and they are exceptional at what they do. You just said Bizarre's verse was abysmal, then said every verse on MMLP is better than Drake. If you think Bizarre's verse is better than anything Drake has done you're a fucking idiot.

look: I’m honest
Girl I can’t lie: I miss you
You and the music were the only things that I commit to
I never cheated, for the record, back when I was with you
But you believed in everything but me girl, I don’t get you
She says I know you changed, I never see you
Cause you’re always busy doing things
I really wish she had a different way of viewing things
I think the city that we’re from just kinda ruined things
It’s such a small place: not much to do but talk and listen
The men are jealous and the women all in competition
And now your friends telling you stories that you often misinterpret
And taint all the images of your “Mr. Perfect”
I could tell that you been crying all night, drinking all summer
Praying for your happiness, hope that you recover, uh
This is one I know you hated when you heard it
And it’s worse because you know that I deserve it..

That verse, and the album it's from, is amazing. It doesn't have triple entendres and it doesn't have super unique phrasing, yo. But it's very relatable and touches on an issue you just don't hear in rap. It's a real shame you don't get it. I guess when you're the one getting your heart broken you can't relate to songs like that.

[EminemBase]

^ If you consider that 'incredible'... wow.

That's SO fucking generic.

Who the fuck is talking about double or triple entendres, or fucking puns or any shitty element of shitty modern rap; I'm talking about interesting writing, real character, real humour...

That verse is a generic RnB verse... Don't 'get' THAT? LMFAO. Yeah, it's so complicated and hard to grasp. It's flat. Totally fucking flat, boring writing which could be said by anybody.

So your points for it being good are:

1. It's relatable (easiest fucking thing on Earth to achieve in any art. This is not a skill and it's the most overrated element of any art - being able to relate.).

2. You don't hear it in rap?

I could rap about wiping my ass - that's relatable, and you don't hear that in rap. Does that make it good? No, of course not. It's about execution, how it's done... always.

And his thoughts and writing in that verse are not in any way good. They're shit.

[Kill You]

Fuck relating, I only care about escaping to other worlds. I'm tired of relating and emo content.

Embase, your wiping my ass example is perfect. Lol I can relate to that so it's automatically good lol. No that verse is terrible and generic. I like Take Care the album but he has far better verses than that piece of shit.

[Fleka]

Listened to that Drake song that SliK posted the verse from. Those were the 4 minutes I will never get back (I just really don`t like that kind music). I agree with EmBase, that song is so generic. Love song that was made 100000000000 times in every music genre ever. I hate calling things cheesy, but that song is as cheesy as it gets. It has no personality, I don`t know how to say it, it`s just...generic is the best word.

Comparing this to MMLP Eminem (I cant compare it with MMLP 2 yet), anybody could write this Drake verse. Listen to Kim-Eminem`s version of love song. You listen to that song, you hear emotions (love, rage, despair...), your can feel the insanity, you can taste the madness ass the song takes you to...hell. Not everybody feels sad because he/she got dumped, but they love that person and wish the all the best. People go crazy over things like that, act like idiots and do crazy shit. Like Em in "Kim".

Drake`s song just talks about the same shit that millions of songs before talked about and millions of songs after will talk about. I guess he did this song for his ex girlfriends, maybe to provoke them, but the song is generic.

So, if that is an example of an amazing verse by Drake, then nobody should ever put him and Eminem in the same sentence. Em Would get torn apart for writing something like that here. LTWYL has 3 better verses than that Drake`s verse. And that song gets hated.

[kkaniff]

Christ, you guys act like you need constant reassurance that Em can rap, the second verse was intentionally wack. Deal with it.
"_Hawk_ wrote:
Oh I know. But there are
more eloquent ways of
mocking a retard without
dribbling."
Are we talking about the same Em that dresses in drag IN IMITATION of popstars? He does that and it's cool, but when he, obviously intentionally, raps badly in IMITATION of other rappers, you bring out the pitchfork and torches.
Lord, that is what he DOES, imitate and poke fun at. Since day 1. Its fuckin obvious.
Also, claiming the forum has no artistic bone while stanning Drake, of all people, is so fuckin' ironic that I'm not going to even bother.

[kkaniff]

Christ, you guys act like you need constant reassurance that Em can rap, the second verse was intentionally wack. Deal with it.
"_Hawk_ wrote:
Oh I know. But there are
more eloquent ways of
mocking a retard without
dribbling."
Are we talking about the same Em that dresses in drag IN IMITATION of popstars? He does that and it's cool, but when he, obviously intentionally, raps badly in IMITATION of other rappers, you bring out the pitchfork and torches.
Lord, that is what he DOES, imitate and poke fun at. Since day 1. Its fuckin obvious.
Also, claiming the forum has no artistic bone while stanning Drake, of all people, is so fuckin' ironic that I'm not going to even bother.

[_Hawk_]

Christ, you guys act like you need constant reassurance that Em can rap, the second verse was intentionally wack. Deal with it.
"_Hawk_ wrote:
Oh I know. But there are
more eloquent ways of
mocking a retard without
dribbling."
Are we talking about the same Em that dresses in drag IN IMITATION of popstars? He does that and it's cool, but when he, obviously intentionally, raps badly in IMITATION of other rappers, you bring out the pitchfork and torches.
Lord, that is what he DOES, imitate and poke fun at. Since day 1. Its fuckin obvious.
Also, claiming the forum has no artistic bone while stanning Drake, of all people, is so fuckin' ironic that I'm not going to even bother.

Yo, I never said it was awful that he did it. Rather I merely stated that it could have been more eloquently done.


I never argued that Drake was better than Eminem. I only stated that there is nothing to say he could have a verse on the album which would ruin it. Most of Em's albums have had some abysmal guest feature verses, I hardly think a Drake verse would ruin the album unless it was on a track which didn't fit the concept at all.

The Ross example on DiaND is the best one. That verse is ridiculously good for such an awful rapper. People just need to chill out and listen to the music free of any stigmas, completely unbiased.

[SliK]

It's funny how people diss Drake for being generic and praise relapse which is literally an album full of nothing at all. A hundred underground rappers could write a song like Must Be The Ganja. To each their own, I guess.

[kkaniff]

Agreed, Drake is a decent rapper and a Drake feature wouldn't be automatic fail. It might even be great.
I just thought it was ironic that you were questioning the musical tastes of an Eminem forum while sorta praising Drake, seeing as Em's obviously the more artistic of the two.
@Slik, Relapse isn't generic. Seriously man, stop it.

[EminemBase]

It's funny how people diss Drake for being generic and praise relapse which is literally an album full of nothing at all. A hundred underground rappers could write a song like Must Be The Ganja. To each their own, I guess.

An album of nothing?

Oh jesus. How you ever got Em is beyond me.

[SliK]

Relapse is nothing compared to his first three albums.

[SliK]

I'm not saying Drake would be on it, I agree that he won't. My only point is, if you think Drake is less creative/artistic/talented than Bizarre then you're a fucking dipshit.

[Solace]

inb4 Drake is on the album and everyone on TRShady goes "Ya lol Eminem's verse is a subliminal diss to Drake and wak wrapeprs like YMCMB and the mainstream game "

[EminemBase]

Relapse is nothing compared to his first three albums.

Obviously yo. But it certainly ain't an album 'full of nothing'.

[SliK]

It really is, unless you consider impressive flows and rhyming 'something'. There are a lot of underground rappers that can rhyme like that though.

Another argument I see used a lot for relapse is its consistency, or sticking to a theme or whatever. But to use your example from earlier - I could write 15 songs about wiping my ass and they'd all have a consistent theme and be cohesive but it wouldn't make for a classic album.

On a side note, it's funny you used the example of wiping shit being such a terrible subject matter when Eminem can't go a whole year without mentioning it.