Eminem needs to become Intimidating Again

[kkaniff]

@Mr Evil.
That's where I think HopsinShadie has a point, he's a short, non threatening looking White guy, he has never really been physically intimidating.
I think that HopsinS. meant was "unpredictable", lashing out at the slightest provocation (see Christina and Britney beef), almost unstable really, and everybody's wary of that.
He's calmed down a lot now, and last genuinely shocking/unpredictable thing he did was The Warning.
Which was fucking awesome.
He has always been feared on the mic, and always will be.
He just isn't loosely hinged anymore, and HopsinS. doesn't like that.

[Mr Evil]

HopsinS should write a letter to Mr. Mathers showing his displeasure that he's not a nutcase anymore

[Hopsinshadie]

Yes! a nutcase! You said it. That is what he needs to become once again. A freak. A guy that puts you on the edge, makes you feel edgy. A guy that makes you wonder if he's crazy or has a sick mind. Rap God was good. Bad Guy was acceptable for a MMLP sequel. The rest was ehh.

[shadyblogger]

Yes! a nutcase! You said it. That is what he needs to become once again. A freak. A guy that puts you on the edge, makes you feel edgy. A guy that makes you wonder if he's crazy or has a sick mind. Rap God was good. Bad Guy was acceptable for a MMLP sequel. The rest was ehh.

We all know he really isn't crazy or has a "sick mind" though...... he had the element of surprise when he first came out, but with how personal his music can be, audiences have gotten to know him over the years.

He's in a good place now.

MMLP2 is the best album he's put out since The Eminem Show, you can't ask for more from a 41 year old. Bask in his past glory by revisiting his older albums...

Oh and also to what EmBase said

[Josh]

Earth to OP: he has been trying to piss people off ever since he hasn't been lmao.

He clearly got bored of it with Encore and decided to make fart sounds instead.

Then he got tired of being called softer so came back with what he and the label thought (at the time they said it contained Em's most offensive lyrics ever... which, it actually does) would be his most offensive album yet. He made an entire album of death and rape and eating babies and taking drugs and sick thought; now, it was all executed in a kind of fantasy way which may be part of the reason for it not causing the effect he wanted... but it's also because his initial impact has passed.

Now he will have the odd moment or fleeting reaction at best (Rap God).

Also, listen to the pure anger of Recovery. People seem to refer to that as a soft pop album due to some of the hooks and beats, but it's pretty much Em's angriest fucking album. MMLP isn't actually that angry, it's more playful than anything, SSLP is very playful, Encore is ridiculous/super serious and TES is pretty angry. But Recovery is like vain-bursting absurd anger (see: Almost Famous).

Again, he's had his impact and we've all heard him yell and say slut 10,000 times so it doesn't pack the same punch regardless of how much he turns the volume up on it.

I think he realized that after Recovery. I personally think he intended Recovery to be a new-age MMLP, as he initially referred to Relapse 1 + 2 as SSLP2 and MMLP2 mirrors... Relapse is definitely a SSLP-like sister album and then we never heard Relapse 2 but I bet it was angrier and darker. But he starts out Recovery with a very Kill You-esque song: pure ranting and raving, hyper-offensive character-play track and he spends most of the album trying to degrade women and get a rise out of people with insults, jokes or provocation.

Mr. Porter even referred to it as '''very reminiscent of MMLP'' at the time, which in retrospect feels very questionable/phoney as if they were trying to intentionally talk it up to be that.

That is why I believe he then made MMLP2, blatantly. Because I think he intended Recovery to be that but then when it got the reaction it did (mixed/poppy album meh) - I believe he got annoyed and thought ''fuck it, they want another MMLP? Here is MMLP2!!'' and called it that to put that speculation and comparison to rest.

<< This theory makes sense because he always uses the reaction of his latest album as fuel for the next one in conjunction with what's happening in his life and the reaction to Recovery was ''poppy, mainstream'' etc. hence: "it's not, hip-hop it's pop!" and the pure outburst of "Rap God".

It was actually an ingenious time to make MMLP2. No other time would have quite made sense like it.

1. It was pretty unexpected
2. He was huger than ever, so all eyes and ears on him
3. A lot of criticism for not being as good and selling-out/poppy

Encore-to-Recovery kind of laid the perfect groundwork to lead to a MMLP sequel which actually made sense and it feels very right @ "it's not, hip-hop, it's pop!" attitude on "Rap God"; doesn't even feel corny mentioning his own work within his work, it feels meta and like a true reaction like MMLP1. So the timing and his thinking was brilliant, it's just unfortunate that once again - despite (ironically) making an album to combat him compromising... he compromised on the very album itself and made a very uneven album trying to replicate the trend of ''eclectic'' being set by modern rappers like B.o.B which doesn't work for them either.

You end up creating an album which satisfies everybody a little bit but nobody to the max, a 6.5-7 (max) album, despite a 8-10 performance and some 8-10 songs. Damn. What could have been.

But yeah, in case you haven't noticed, he has been trying to piss people off ever since coming back.

I do think his style and how he approaches it does affect it aka whether he talks about nonsense/fantasy vs. real world topics. I think if he did talk about real world topics again then he would cause more reactions.

However, at this point, one of the most shocking things he can do is be truly sincere or apolgetic, as we saw from the shocked reaction to ''Headlights''. That's a cheap trick though and I would definitely like to see him dig deeper and apply his ingenious gifts back to the outside world - if he did that, his topics would be endless, although he is also becoming deeper and deeper in his ''angry grandad of rap'' routine and celebrating his own misery and obsessive negativity. And it's pretty funny and interesting, because it's so overkill.

Interested to see where he goes next. As always. If he does go somewhere next.

#VintageBase back in this bitch.

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[UofLCard]

Hopsinshadie, you intimidate me.

[TheBoss123]

Embase on point.

[ProdigalGe0]

Great posts EminemBase, I'd also like to high five you for your grammar and spelling

Hahaha you should get used to it...he is a great poster.

EmBase i totally agree with you! As always great post and i also second the fact that he could/will use the criticism he received for MMLP2 for his next project (hopefully this day comes )

[HeySamantha]

His life has balanced out and he seems to have made peace with a lot of things and people. He's not pissed off at anyone anymore. I miss his flat out anger and his talent to rhyming words like crazy with meaning, not just using it just to use it. We get that he's great at writing, but it's missing the meaning and voice behind it. I love MMLP2 and I'm happy we're getting that rather than nothing at all, but what I wouldn't give for another 2000/2001 sounding Eminem song

[slims]

People are giving a hopsinshadie thread this much consideration?

[Lezu]

His life has balanced out and he seems to have made peace with a lot of things and people. He's not pissed off at anyone anymore. I miss his flat out anger and his talent to rhyming words like crazy with meaning, not just using it just to use it. We get that he's great at writing, but it's missing the meaning and voice behind it. I love MMLP2 and I'm happy we're getting that rather than nothing at all, but what I wouldn't give for another 2000/2001 sounding Eminem song

"When will the madness end, how can it when
There's no method to the pad and pen
The only message that I have to send is, Dad
I'm back at it again"

[Mr Evil]

don't you hate pants?!

[TheBoss123]

People are giving a hopsinshadie thread this much consideration?

Its kind of hard to ignore, hes kind of like a mosquito

[Hopsinshadie]

What Eminem should do is pretend it's 2000 again. Or pretend that he is his Evil Twin. Just pretend that you are that same Slim Shady, after all you dyed your hair. Seriously, Eminem should make a whole album using the Evil Twin Concept. His next album should be called, ''Alternative Persona.'' It would give him an excuse to start lashing out at people and he can just say it was just a concept, since it wasn't really him, it was him pretending to be evil. No I'm serious. Think about what I'm saying. It would be great, innovative artistic work. He would piss people off, but he wouldn't cross the line.

[shadyblogger]

What Eminem should do is pretend it's 2000 again. Or pretend that he is his Evil Twin. Just pretend that you are that same Slim Shady, after all you dyed your hair. Seriously, Eminem should make a whole album using the Evil Twin Concept. His next album should be called, ''Alternative Persona.'' It would give him an excuse to start lashing out at people and he can just say it was just a concept, since it wasn't really him, it was him pretending to be evil. No I'm serious. Think about what I'm saying. It would be great, innovative artistic work. He would piss people off, but he wouldn't cross the line.

Email him that