Guts Over Fear ft. Sia - Links in OP

[TranSlucEnt]

Ugly héros are dope af doe

[sbolli1]

Willou getting ethered up in here

[Kathryn531]

Yes, no matter, 10 songs or 11 songs is too much. But one time again, it's just my opinion and I really think that he is losing his credibility with this kind of song. (With Space Bound too)[/quote]

I'm not really going off on the above poster per se--I just picked the most recent quote that was relevant...
Anyway, I really don't get why people are so hung up the need for Em to make "real" rap and this whole so-called credibility thing. Why can't he just make music he likes and we enjoy? Why does he and his music have to be pigeon-holed into some crazy supposed all-important category? His music was NEVER purist rap from day one. "My Name Is"' anyone? And even if he always did hard core albums, why SHOULD he always have to? Why can't he have variety?

[lesi20]

From r/hiphopheads

I loved this song from the first line of the first verse. "Sometimes I feel like all I ever do is find different ways to word the same old song." I'm working on my first album right now, and this is something I've been thinking about - both my own effort to plan ahead and avoid running out of topics, and that I've noticed lately how often Eminem repeats the same premise. I found it to be perfect timing, him releasing a song that opens with that line right when I've been thinking about that aspect of his career lately.
But it's probably not a coincidence. I saw the title of the song a few days before listening to it - "Guts Over Fear." I bet that's exactly what made my brain think about how Eminem recycles songs - because that title sounds an awful lot like "Not Afraid 2."
Well, a lot of things about this song aren't coincidence. I keep drawing new connections and I bet I'm still going to find more. For example, he asks how many times he can say the same thing different ways that rhyme. The song happens to be comprised of two verses with the same rhyme structures. Yet neither of them is very technically skilled - they focus more on saying what he wants to say as accurately as possible, really pouring his heart out this time instead of just trying to demonstrate his ability to find ways that rhyme. Both verses are full of things like slant rhymes that challenge flow to make them sound technically skilled even though they're a bit messy. And challenge flow he does - though structured identically, the second verse sounds completely different from the first one, and manages to attain a climactic feel based solely on delivery.
In other words: in a song questioning how long he can stretch out a career on nothing but technical lyrical ability, he both prioritizes substance over rhyming skill, and uses that skill to challenge himself on flow.
But that's not all the song is about. I keep coming back to that line because it resonates with me that bit extra - "how many times can I say the same thing different ways that rhyme" - but it doesn't quite summarize the whole thing. For example, he briefly mentions his regret at what his angry Slim Shady persona may have caused in the early years: "pray to God I just opened enough eyes later on" - and I find that interesting because I've argued about that with people before. I know some social justice advocates or whatever who dislike Eminem for the violence and hate in his songs, and I always try to challenge that view of him.
I think it's actually what makes him a more socially influential person than people realize - maybe the biggest social justice advocate of all. I don't know whether he did it on purpose or not - I wouldn't be surprised if he did - but I think his hateful persona was a backdoor entrance to open more eyes than you ever could by being an openly "good person" type of character up-front. I'm sure there are a huge number of people who were cynical and hateful at the turn of the 21st century, who listened to Eminem because they identified with Slim Shady. With a fanbase as big as his, it's undeniable.
I wonder how many of them had their eyes opened later on by songs like "Stan" and "White America" and others I'm forgetting, which feel almost like they were designed to make certain people regret the way they've behaved as Eminem fans. I think he used the trust and admiration these people built up for him as an asshole to challenge their viewpoints in a way nobody but an asshole like him could. I wonder if he realizes that. But I feel like he does: "soon as I stopped saying I gave a fuck, haters started to appreciate my art."
There are lots of other things I could say, but this is already rambling on quite a bit. I think a lot of people have been saying this song is Eminem hinting at retirement, but I think it's the opposite. I think when he says it's too late to start over, he's lying. This song is here to prepare listeners for something new that would be too jarring for him to come out with otherwise. I'm now more excited for Shady XV than I already was for Detox. If Eminem pulls himself out of the decline his career is in right now, my god, that will be fucking beautiful.

[Nitro]

"soon as I stopped saying I gave a fuck, haters started to appreciate my art." is my favorite line.

[croatia]

Do you think Em co-wrote/ghostwrote the hook? cause it really sounds like Em would say those lyrics

[slims]

I'm sure he did, it sounds like something he would say.

[kkaniff]

@Croatia
That's another thing I like about G>F; it doesn't sound phoned in at all, it sounds like Em and Sia actually sat in the studio together and brainstormed about the lyrics and melody an shit.
It sounds like an actual song rather than a "rap song with a girl on the hook" (The Monster).

[Mr Change]

Song is stuffed with quotables fam

"The media made me the equivalent of a modern-day Genghis Khan"

"How many times can I say the same thing different ways that rhyme?"

"Soon as I stopped saying I gave a fuck
Haters started to appreciate my art
And it just breaks my heart to look at all the pain I caused
But what am I gonna do when the rage is gone?
And the lights go out in that trailer park?"

"But on eggshells I was made to walk
But thank you, ma, ‘cause that gave me the
Strength to cause Shady-mania, so when they empty that stadium
Least I made it out of that house and a found a place in this world when the day was done"

"So this is for every kid who all’s they ever did was dreamt of one day just getting accepted
I represent him or her, anyone similar, you are the reason that I made this song"

"The legend of the angry blonde lives on through you when I’m gone"

POWER brahs ya'll sleepin

[shadyblogger]

Song is stuffed with quotables fam

"The media made me the equivalent of a modern-day Genghis Khan"

"How many times can I say the same thing different ways that rhyme?"

"Soon as I stopped saying I gave a fuck
Haters started to appreciate my art
And it just breaks my heart to look at all the pain I caused
But what am I gonna do when the rage is gone?
And the lights go out in that trailer park?"

"But on eggshells I was made to walk
But thank you, ma, ‘cause that gave me the
Strength to cause Shady-mania, so when they empty that stadium
Least I made it out of that house and a found a place in this world when the day was done"

"So this is for every kid who all’s they ever did was dreamt of one day just getting accepted
I represent him or her, anyone similar, you are the reason that I made this song"

"The legend of the angry blonde lives on through you when I’m gone"

POWER brahs ya'll sleepin

Those are all great tbh

[Raul]

I don't understand how Mr Change likes GoF. Em isn't shouting or making bad puns on this track

[shadyblogger]

^ just realized Guts Over Fear doesn't have any puns. Calm Down does have some though

[Mr Change]

I don't understand how Mr Change likes GoF. Em isn't shouting or making bad puns on this track

EM WOULD RATHER MAKA RECOVERY 2 THAN ANOTHA MOTHAFUCKIN RELAPSE AUGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!


Get outta here with that

[shadyblogger]

From r/hiphopheads

I loved this song from the first line of the first verse. "Sometimes I feel like all I ever do is find different ways to word the same old song." I'm working on my first album right now, and this is something I've been thinking about - both my own effort to plan ahead and avoid running out of topics, and that I've noticed lately how often Eminem repeats the same premise. I found it to be perfect timing, him releasing a song that opens with that line right when I've been thinking about that aspect of his career lately.
But it's probably not a coincidence. I saw the title of the song a few days before listening to it - "Guts Over Fear." I bet that's exactly what made my brain think about how Eminem recycles songs - because that title sounds an awful lot like "Not Afraid 2."
Well, a lot of things about this song aren't coincidence. I keep drawing new connections and I bet I'm still going to find more. For example, he asks how many times he can say the same thing different ways that rhyme. The song happens to be comprised of two verses with the same rhyme structures. Yet neither of them is very technically skilled - they focus more on saying what he wants to say as accurately as possible, really pouring his heart out this time instead of just trying to demonstrate his ability to find ways that rhyme. Both verses are full of things like slant rhymes that challenge flow to make them sound technically skilled even though they're a bit messy. And challenge flow he does - though structured identically, the second verse sounds completely different from the first one, and manages to attain a climactic feel based solely on delivery.
In other words: in a song questioning how long he can stretch out a career on nothing but technical lyrical ability, he both prioritizes substance over rhyming skill, and uses that skill to challenge himself on flow.
But that's not all the song is about. I keep coming back to that line because it resonates with me that bit extra - "how many times can I say the same thing different ways that rhyme" - but it doesn't quite summarize the whole thing. For example, he briefly mentions his regret at what his angry Slim Shady persona may have caused in the early years: "pray to God I just opened enough eyes later on" - and I find that interesting because I've argued about that with people before. I know some social justice advocates or whatever who dislike Eminem for the violence and hate in his songs, and I always try to challenge that view of him.
I think it's actually what makes him a more socially influential person than people realize - maybe the biggest social justice advocate of all. I don't know whether he did it on purpose or not - I wouldn't be surprised if he did - but I think his hateful persona was a backdoor entrance to open more eyes than you ever could by being an openly "good person" type of character up-front. I'm sure there are a huge number of people who were cynical and hateful at the turn of the 21st century, who listened to Eminem because they identified with Slim Shady. With a fanbase as big as his, it's undeniable.
I wonder how many of them had their eyes opened later on by songs like "Stan" and "White America" and others I'm forgetting, which feel almost like they were designed to make certain people regret the way they've behaved as Eminem fans. I think he used the trust and admiration these people built up for him as an asshole to challenge their viewpoints in a way nobody but an asshole like him could. I wonder if he realizes that. But I feel like he does: "soon as I stopped saying I gave a fuck, haters started to appreciate my art."
There are lots of other things I could say, but this is already rambling on quite a bit. I think a lot of people have been saying this song is Eminem hinting at retirement, but I think it's the opposite. I think when he says it's too late to start over, he's lying. This song is here to prepare listeners for something new that would be too jarring for him to come out with otherwise. I'm now more excited for Shady XV than I already was for Detox. If Eminem pulls himself out of the decline his career is in right now, my god, that will be fucking beautiful.

HStark

[sbolli1]

Song is stuffed with quotables fam

"The media made me the equivalent of a modern-day Genghis Khan"

"How many times can I say the same thing different ways that rhyme?"

"Soon as I stopped saying I gave a fuck
Haters started to appreciate my art
And it just breaks my heart to look at all the pain I caused
But what am I gonna do when the rage is gone?
And the lights go out in that trailer park?"

"But on eggshells I was made to walk
But thank you, ma, ‘cause that gave me the
Strength to cause Shady-mania, so when they empty that stadium
Least I made it out of that house and a found a place in this world when the day was done"

"So this is for every kid who all’s they ever did was dreamt of one day just getting accepted
I represent him or her, anyone similar, you are the reason that I made this song"

"The legend of the angry blonde lives on through you when I’m gone"

POWER brahs ya'll sleepin

truth